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Our Buddy Amy The Fix Writer = Ridiculously Unfunny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYfJyEm_6TU She is gross. Unfunny. Abrasive. I'll bet half of the room plugs their ears when she shares. I watched a few, but none all the way through. She is yucky and abrasive. Remember I kept trying to feel sorry for her? Yeah, this feeling or pretend feeling is 100 percent gone.

The Valley Vista troubled teen facility for females at 1 Alden Place, Vergennes, VT in Addison County is on hold once again Jan 9, 2014

Deal at risk for young women's treatment center in Vergennes Posted on January 9, 2014 By Andy Kirkaldy VERGENNES — The proposal to convert the former Vergennes nursing home at 1 Alden Place into a treatment center for troubled teen girls and young women has hit a major snag — a dispute between the property’s seller and its contracted buyer.

Deprogramming 101

This is the eighth entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) Your best thinking got you here -- The Orange Papers Forum http://www.orange-papers.org/forum

The Free Will Defense

God as we understand Him Does Not Exist 1. God is Omnipotent, Omniscience, All Good 2. A God who is Omnipotent, Omniscience and All Good would want to eliminate alcoholism 3. Alcoholism Exists 4. God as we understand Him does not Part 1 In Alcoholics Anonymous "His religion has been made for him by others, communicated to him by tradition, determined to him by fixed forms by imitation, and retained by habit. It would profit me little to study this second-hand religious life. How does a theist explain a first order evil? Soberman

Stepper Trying To Save AA

The comment and video below was posted on my YouTube video, "AA Is A Death Sentence." Thought I would share it... have fun. :-P

His comment: So, I went on Youtube and typed in "Alcoholics Anonymous" And I was amazed at what I saw. Many people talking alot of crap about this book and representing what they think this book is about. So I feel the need to make a response to those people. Please feel free to share and pass it along. Thanks
Tony

And this is the video he made:

Critical View on Gabrielle Glaser’s book “HER BEST KEPT SECRET”…on The Fix

Well folks- the steppers are out in full force giving their stupid ass opinion. PLease read , share and give your opinion as you wish !!! A Moderate Proposal on Moderation Finally making a year sober AGAIN after 20 years of relapsing, I wake up to an article telling me I didn’t need to be abstinent after all. Not so helpful. A rebuttal from somebody who’s been abstinent with and without AA. It’s elementary. Shutterstock By Amy Dresner 01/09/14 Share on facebookShare on twitter|More Sharing ServicesShare Moderation vs. Abstinence: What’s More Effective? How Smart Is Smart Recovery?

Alcoholics Anonymous acting as the Angels of Death, helping, hoping and promoting your death so it can be used with glee to find new prospects to become new Angels of Death.


Those of us who have been in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous have all seen and heard it many times. Unlike 13th Stepping which is usually not talked about, the death of a newcomer or even an old timer is talked about with a very ghoulish glee and used as a promotion to find new members.

The "slut-shaming" answer

There is an article on "The Fix" today where a woman in AA is taking Gabrielle Glaser and her book called Her Best-Kept Secret to task for mentioning moderation. She also tries to throw cold water (or maybe a cold shower) on the accusation that predators lurk in THE ROOMZZZZ. She uses the usual "rapes happen everywhere" defense but she throws in another device I have seen over and over in women's leads in AA and that is to slut-shame.

I know that I don’t know (and neither do you)

There has been a lot of religious debate going on here and on some of the other forums that I take part in. Meaning of life stuff; do we go anywhere after we die, that kind of stuff. It’s romantic and hopeful to think that after we’ve spent our last breath in this lifetime that is doesn’t all just end. Does it? I DON’T KNOW (and neither do you) The Christians keep his hope alive with the promises of heaven and the threat of Hell. The Buddhists believe that we do this dance over and over again until we get it right. The Atheists believe you die….the end

Saint Jude Retreats releases interview with Gabrielle Glaser, author of “Her Best-Kept Secret” recorded Monday Jan. 6, 2014

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/saintjuderetreats/2014/01/06/women-and-drin...
Saint Jude Retreats Releases Radio Interview with Gabrielle Glaser The Saint Jude Retreats, a non 12 step substance use program, releases radio show interview with guest Gabrielle Glaser. Amsterdam, NY (PRWEB) January 08, 2014

Spinoza's God' Can we understand Him

The question arises as to whether Spinoza’s philosophy is able to reconcile the existence of good with the existence of evil, or the existence of truth with the existence of falsehood. If God is infinite substance, then how can any kind of evil or falsehood occur? If God is perfect, then how can God allow the existence of evil or suffering? Spinoza’s answer is that evil is a lack of good and that falsehood is a lack of truth. Error and falsehood arise from inadequate knowledge of God. Knowledge of evil arises from inadequate ideas, i.e. ideas that do not adequately refer to God.

Deprogramming 101

This is the seventh entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) Be part of the solution, not the problem -- Expose AA http://www.expaa.org

Wanting to start up a worthy cause

For the first time in my life I have never been so filled with passion to stand up for a worthy cause!! Maybe its contagious? After being here on this forum and seeing so many here also fighting for causes whether its exposing AA or generally helping others aware of what is actually going on in 12 step rooms, I have felt myself being drawn to do something myself!!

Been going through extreme weather.

Nothing out of the ordinary for here but it's quite the experience. Snowed then rain then deep freeze = ICE! Did a 360 going down our horrendous driveway yesterday after spending the day laying chain treads with the plow truck and sanding! Managed to miss hitting anything sliding sideways on this skinny little road, turned it around at the pullout and it stopped along with my heart! lol Went and bought chains for my dad's car. It's amazing that they don't have chains for their cars after living out here for almost 30 years and there hasn't been a serious head on collision. Crazy!

Quitting smoking... Again

Well, I've decided that I'm going to quit smoking once and for all. Many of the morons on craigslist have assured me that I will fail. It's reached a point where smoking just doesn't feel good anymore. The VA sent me patches and nicotine gum, and I am using them. Been trying to keep busy all day... using SMART Recovery ideas to get by. Any tips, advice, or encouragement is appreciated. Fuck off jimbattle.

IMPORTANT!!! First read below! - The Scientific Case for the Existence of God! (What Some OPF Members Don't Want You to Know)

Recently, I noticed that some OPF members were doing something very strange. The reason that I am not going to tell you about it on this blog is because, recently, I posted an article on my blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog. The link below will take you there: New Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/

Deprogramming 101

This is the sixth entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) Willingness is the key -- Leaving AA http://leavingaa.com

Sober- man: The AA Creed,

Let’s talk: : Sober-man

may be a bit low brow

but i still feel emotionally traumatized by the double talk and insane over rationalization witch hunting - no matter what you said or did = - it was wrong somehow. because wilson and aa is a house of word and slogan mirrors. but there is so much good in the rooms if you are a sex addict and want unconditionally laid. sarcasm

Jim' s Entries Fading Out (Tech Issue?)

Some of you know I was kind of inspired to get a new username and to get back on OPF, as I was worried Itisi was not being listened to re: here concerns about the batlle......Whatever... Not really my business as I've been an absent anti AA-er for so long. But I did wanna mention this, when I have gone to look at any of Jim Battle's posts, my browser lets me read it for a sec. And then I get to the Orage Error Page. I feel frustrated by so much Christian literalism that is going on tody, OPF included... But if this can happen to him (the weird disappearing, etc.) it could happen to anyone.

IMPORTANT!!! FIRST READ BELOW! - My Resonse to NoAAUK's Post Concerning Christianity, Paganism, and AA

Recently, I posted an article on my Orange Papers (OP) Forum blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog just in case you can't read it here. The link below will take you there: Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/ Hi NoAAUK,

Time to step up to the plate again folks.

Ok, so the fix apparently is leaning towards it's pro-stepper ways again. I've felt moved to add my 2 cents to 3 of their most recent contributions and I think it would be cool if some of you guys keep an eye on it and chime in as well. I give them credit that at least they allow people voice countering views. 1) Stop Historicising Alcoholics Anonymous 2) The value of "affluenza" 3) And the doozy of them all "A unified theory of shame" (Barf)

IMPORTANT!!! FIRST READ BELOW! - Why Christians Should Not Use Secular "Recovery" Programs - PART TWO! (The SOS Program)

Recently, I posted an article on my Orange Papers (OP) Forum blog that made someone very angry. They hated this post so much that they used their internet skills to make it impossible to read the comments. Realizing they might do the same thing to THIS post, I have place it on another blog just in case you can't read it here. The link below will take you there: Blog: http://orangepapersforumandreligion.blogspot.com/

Christianity v Paganism v Alcoholics Anonymous

There seems to be dissention in the ranks against one person on this forum and I don't like ganging up on any individual by other members just because they have different opinions. Except stepper cult promoters, exposing this cult is after all the primary purpose of this website. I say again I don't like ganging up on one individual just because they have differing beliefs, it reminds me of the steppers all ganging up on an individual who didn't speak their council approved 'group talk.'

Deprogramming 101 Series

There has been some confusion with my using AA slogans in conjunction with tools for deprogramming from the brainwashing doctrine and dogma of AA. My use of the slogans is twofold: 1. To demonstrate the crude, insensitive and/or illogical nonsense that is repeated daily by the cult. 2. As a contrast to the deprogramming tools, techniques and tips that follow. I NEVER use AA slogans in conversation, and I cringe and run when I hear them spoken by people I occasionally come across that still attend meetings. I hope this clears up any confusion or misunderstanding. (It's just for fun!)

Deprogramming 101

This is the fifth entry in a series for deprogramming from the adverse effects sustained from exposure to the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous and their brainwashing repetitive propoganda. (Note: In this series, I make use of AA slogans to emphasize a point. In practice, the use of slogans should always be avoided in everyday conversation.) We have a choice -- SMART Recovery (Self Management And Recovery Training) http://smartrecovery.org SOS (Save Our Selves) Secular Organizations for Sobriety

Stepper's Gone Wild Part 2 -my early short films

You can hear for the first time many bloggers from Stinkin thinkin calling in to Big John's Radio Show. They asked me to be a guest. I was on my way out of AA...just two months and I was gone .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS6eTffyq70&list=UUBazCCge1U3dOIztH1zSODQ Gotta love it. This is where it all began for me. When I didn't even know what tagging was. Gotta go back and fix that LOL. Massive

Will AA be able to post attraction on the forum

They may as bloody well, it's no different to what the preacher pricks posted.

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