Seeing as there as so many Nazi obsessives on this site....

You may find this article interesting. If someone had 12 Stepped Hitler, the history of the 20th century may have been quite different.

Ig Nobel Prize awarded to study of bullshit

Thus, bullshit, in contrast to mere nonsense, is something that implies but does not contain adequate meaning or truth. This sort of phenomenon is similar to what Buekens and Boudry (2015) referred to as obscurantism (p. 1): “[when] the speaker... [sets] up a game of verbal smoke and mirrors to suggest depth and insight where none exists.”

Why doesn't AA "work"?

AA doesn't work because there's nothing To work. It fails 95% of those who walk in the doors and leave within a year and those 5% that make up the "old timer" living dead aren't "recovered" because according to the cult itself, you will always be "recovering" "one day at a time" for ETERNITY, contingent on being a lifetime drone.
There is no finality, no EXIT plan and no so called recovery.

A state religion.(Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous)

Refer to my last blog post about Shoemaker calling for a Government -State Supervision of Religion.

I recall reading about the U.S. founding fathers that were pro religious control. They recognized however, that pushing religion would cause citizens to push back and decided to try and incorporate religious values in other ways.

Article from: American Atheist Magazine | March 22, 2003 | Russell, Kevin | Copyright

The emotionally flat response of many aa apologists

The emotionally flat response of many aa apologists is why aa apologist don't get angry at aa.

recoveringfromrecovery is a good example. he knows that aa lies about its recovery rate while it dominates the recovery industry, which obviously abuses vulnerable people. yet recoveryingfromrecovery is not upset nor does he have any anger about aa abuse. obviouusly recoveryingfromrecovery is emotionally ill, he presents with inauthentic emotional characteristics.

Shoemaker Calls for State Supervision of Religion

As similar as the OG is with AA and how close Sam Shoemaker was to AA's founding, it looks like his call for a "supervised" state religion came true. Remember, there are no coincidences.............

From an online pdf. 1936 Newsletter, The Presbytarian Guardian


Shoemaker Calls for State Supervision of Religion

Proof AA does not work

So, I was waiting at the Bus stop, trying to catch a bus today. About 2 short blocks aways, is where they have one of those everyday AA meetings at 5PM. While I was there I saw an older guy I recognized from AA, chugging a pint of Vodka, on the main Ave, in broad daylight. He did try to turn his face in to the store Window while he was doing it, but I caught him while I was getting out of my car. He looked like he was on his way to the Meeting, where all the bums hang out.

Why Alcoholics Anonymous targets the low lifes of Society

Simple answer is that they are easy targets. The Benedict Arnold of the faux Anti-AA site in London doesn't believe in using history (he calls them conspiracy theories) the thing is that the study of history is to prevent prior tragedies from happening. again. I guess he doesn't believe that England was the 2nd main cause of slavery in the US and that they used the main English Jamestown, NJ colony to import and sell these slaves. I guess he doesn't have the intelligence to learn from history which prevents things like this from happening again...

The blindingly obvious explanation as to why AA may seem 'cult-like'

One of the defining characteristics of a person who suffers from addiction is a tendency toward obsessiveness. This is particularly true when it comes to activities that alter their mood and makes them feel good. The rooms are therefore populated by people who are much more obsessive than the average person. This includes the people in the rooms who founded AA. Not surprisingly therefore, this obsessive flavour has become part of AA.

You aren't as smart as you think you are

Interesting article about beliefs and how being presented with evidence that your beliefs are actually wrong merely makes you more entrenched in your position. As if we didn't already know - arguing with people online about their beliefs is a complete waste of time:

People only really change their minds through direct experience - not by having 'facts' thrown at them.

Heroin supply adulterated with carfentanil

The NYT reports that the heroin supply is now adulterated with fentanyl and carfentanil, and the carfentanil is so potent that a snow-flake-sized piece of it is enough to overdose a man.

Is AA a Cult? Excellent Article

Is Alcoholics Anonymous a Cult?
An Old Question Revisited

© L. Allen Ragels
All Rights Reserved

The “alcoholism cult.” That’s what Sheldon Bacon, for many years the director of the Rutgers Center for Alcohol Studies, called overly avid supporters of Alcoholics Anonymous.[1]

The most idiotic claim that AA makes is it is an upside down pyramid. First off the individual

The most idiotic claim that AA makes is it is an upside down pyramid. First off the individual groups do not publish and print the prospect instruction manuals of the Big Book or the 12&12. In fact the adjunct books of Living Sober and the International magazine of propaganda commonly called the Grapevine is not published or printed by the individual groups in AA. They are propaganda and prospect instruction manuals published and printed by the high priest/priestess at the Interchurch Center on 475 Riverside Drive in NYC.


Entagled Genesis

This Video by the Old Genesis seems to be a witty attack on Hynp0-therapy. Reminds me of all the hypn suggestions in AA

Is there anybody out there?

Shine oN!

My Story: I Was Accused of Being an Addict

Here's an interesting and different point of view:

"Calling me an addict just because I treat my pain with opioids is simply cruel.

How desperately I wish I were “just an addict”.

"On the basis of reports by addicts, I can say that a ‘fix’ does indeed exceed in quality any known sexual pleasure."

"On the basis of reports by addicts, I can say that a ‘fix’ does indeed exceed in quality any known sexual pleasure."

“Studies of the reaction addicts have to a single dose of morphine reveal that many experience a feeling of exhilaration akin to an orgasm discharged in the abdominal region."

"It is entirely possible that the intensity of this pleasure exceeds any pleasure known to non-addicts."

Never hate your enemy......

Somebody said 'Never hate your affects your judgement.' I do agree with Orange, constant personal attacks on individuals does not help people to deprogram from 12 cult indoctrination. But I find it extremely hard not to 'hate my enemy.' Particularly with this EU thing, but more importantly with regard to the OPF, the stepper cult. I've had a very nasty experience with the stepper cult and have seen people directly die as a result of this lying scare-mongering, exploitive indoctrination......and all these stepper cult gurus can say is 'prove it.'

Sex offender arrested for stalking woman he met at an Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting in Berkley, Callifornia AA General Service Area 06 (CNCA) Alameda County

Sex offender set to enter plea after stalking, threats

July 28, 2016 1:03 pm by Emilie Raguso

A convicted sex offender who left “disturbing” notes for a Berkeley woman he met through Alcoholics Anonymous is set to enter a plea Monday after being charged with stalking by the Alameda County district attorney’s office.

According to court papers, 58-year-old Carl Jones left notes for the woman in early July after they met at AA in June and “developed a friendship to help each other with recovery.”

Another cult pretending to be a charity

Notice many of the usual cult characteristics like suppression of dissent, demands for unwavering loyalty, and demands that you are in for your whole life, and the cult is more important than your family.
Also unquestionable dogma, and the inner circle and the outer circle, and hidden goals.

Whatever you do unto the least of my little ones...

Jesus Christ is reputed to have said "Whatever you do unto the least of my little do unto me" (No doubt many people can quote which line and verse). Maybe its about time some US Judges and US/UK Alcohol Treatment Therapists start to contemplate those words before they mandate or advise some other victim to become a member the 12 step cult for life

title = treatment rank or why does janus enable aa financial abuse

Treatment Modality Rank % Excellent
Brief interventions 1 53
Motivational enhancement 2 50
GABA agonist (Acamprosate) 3 20
Community Reinforcement 4.5 71
Self-change manual (Bibliotherapy) 4.5 53
Opiate antagonist (Naltrexone) 6 0


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