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What are Alcoholics Anonymous classes all about?

There is no such thing as Alcoholics Anonymous classes, they are meetings mandated by the courts.
50% (1 vote)
Alcoholics Anonymous does not hold classes, they are religious indoctrination sessions.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous do not hold classes, they are just a Group Of Drunks (i.e. G.O.D.) complaining sessions.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous does not hold classes, it is a conferssion cult which raises suicide rates.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous does not hold classes, they hold religious, confession cult meetings where dangerous people have been sent.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous is all of the above a religious, confession cult, dangerous, suicide inducing meeting.
50% (1 vote)
Alcoholics Anonymous "classes" are from some other world.
0% (0 votes)
Other - explain why you think Alcoholics Anonymous holds "classes."
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 2

My Story: I Was Accused of Being an Addict

Here's an interesting and different point of view:

http://nationalpainreport.com/my-story-i-was-accused-of-being-an-addict-...

"Calling me an addict just because I treat my pain with opioids is simply cruel.

How desperately I wish I were “just an addict”.

"On the basis of reports by addicts, I can say that a ‘fix’ does indeed exceed in quality any known sexual pleasure."

"On the basis of reports by addicts, I can say that a ‘fix’ does indeed exceed in quality any known sexual pleasure."

“Studies of the reaction addicts have to a single dose of morphine reveal that many experience a feeling of exhilaration akin to an orgasm discharged in the abdominal region."

"It is entirely possible that the intensity of this pleasure exceeds any pleasure known to non-addicts."

Never hate your enemy......

Somebody said 'Never hate your enemy...it affects your judgement.' I do agree with Orange, constant personal attacks on individuals does not help people to deprogram from 12 cult indoctrination. But I find it extremely hard not to 'hate my enemy.' Particularly with this EU thing, but more importantly with regard to the OPF, the stepper cult. I've had a very nasty experience with the stepper cult and have seen people directly die as a result of this lying scare-mongering, exploitive indoctrination......and all these stepper cult gurus can say is 'prove it.'

Sex offender arrested for stalking woman he met at an Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting in Berkley, Callifornia AA General Service Area 06 (CNCA) Alameda County

Sex offender set to enter plea after stalking, threats

July 28, 2016 1:03 pm by Emilie Raguso

A convicted sex offender who left “disturbing” notes for a Berkeley woman he met through Alcoholics Anonymous is set to enter a plea Monday after being charged with stalking by the Alameda County district attorney’s office.

According to court papers, 58-year-old Carl Jones left notes for the woman in early July after they met at AA in June and “developed a friendship to help each other with recovery.”

Another cult pretending to be a charity


http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36940384

Notice many of the usual cult characteristics like suppression of dissent, demands for unwavering loyalty, and demands that you are in for your whole life, and the cult is more important than your family.
Also unquestionable dogma, and the inner circle and the outer circle, and hidden goals.

Whatever you do unto the least of my little ones...

Jesus Christ is reputed to have said "Whatever you do unto the least of my little ones...you do unto me" (No doubt many people can quote which line and verse). Maybe its about time some US Judges and US/UK Alcohol Treatment Therapists start to contemplate those words before they mandate or advise some other victim to become a member the 12 step cult for life

Who are the biggest totally self centred, fake socialists on this planet

The British Labour Party
50% (1 vote)
The US Democrat Party
0% (0 votes)
Other PLEASE specify (if you can find a more fake socialist party on this planet)
50% (1 vote)
Total votes: 2

What is Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.)?

Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) is an ad hoc group of thieves, rapists, murderers that the US judiciary sentence them too.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) is an impromptu meeting of court mandated criminals.
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Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) is a provisional holding cell of the US court system.
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Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) is a special place for thieves, rapists and murderers to congregate.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A) is a specific place to send thieves, rapists, murderers, etc... too.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A) is thre specified holding cell of thieves, rapists and murders of the US Court system.
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A) is an impromptu, provisional, special, specific, specified meeting of thieves, rapists, murderers.;
0% (0 votes)
Alcoholics Anonymous (A.A.) is a combination of all of the above.
50% (2 votes)
Other - Please explain in the comments what Alcoholics Anonymous is to you.
50% (2 votes)
Total votes: 4

Why do the Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) Apologetic always use the same excuses to try to validate the existence of AA and its doctrines?

The AA Apologetic were brainwashed that way.
0% (0 votes)
The AA headquarters and publishing empire at the Interchurch use marketing to have them answer that way.
33% (1 vote)
Bill Wilson is channeling his thoughts to people gullible enough to believe them through his "literature."
0% (0 votes)
People and organizations who make a living off of preaching the "free" 12 Steps teach them what to say.
0% (0 votes)
All of the above are why AA apologertic members all have the same feeble excuses.
67% (2 votes)
AA members never quote the Big Book, Bill Wilson or the 12 Steps.
0% (0 votes)
Other. Please explain in the comment section.
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 3

If as Brett suggests in his latest poll, Janus was to relapse, back out there & selling her ass down the corner would she

Earn enough to have a 'skin full'?
0% (0 votes)
Earn two rusty washers and an old UK penny?
0% (0 votes)
Earn sweet fa and revert to just begging as no doubt more and more people will in the UK if we dont hurry up a LEAVE the EU?
100% (1 vote)
Total votes: 1

title = treatment rank or why does janus enable aa financial abuse

Treatment Modality Rank % Excellent
Brief interventions 1 53
Motivational enhancement 2 50
GABA agonist (Acamprosate) 3 20
Community Reinforcement 4.5 71
Self-change manual (Bibliotherapy) 4.5 53
Opiate antagonist (Naltrexone) 6 0

Ironic quote of Carl Jung's

Carl Jung, Memories, Dreams, Reflections

“Schizophrenia was considered incurable. If one did achieve some improvement with a case of schizophrenia, the answer was that it had not been REAL schizophrenia" -my emphasis.

Perhaps Bill read this and decided it was a good argument against alcoholics getting sober outside of AA. That and "denial" being a symptom of alcoholism are such absurd arguments that I can't believe they are ever accepted. Are they? LOL

janus's top ten - aa abuse enabling lies!

1. don't empahsize the abuse in aa literature
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2. take the abuse you like and leave the rest - for new abuse victims
0% (0 votes)
3. aa is not the written abuse in its literature - aa is mental jello
0% (0 votes)
4. alter aa's abusive wording, but still say it is aa
0% (0 votes)
5. aa's abusive wording only affect those who look for abuse
0% (0 votes)
6. try to think of aa abuse as friendly advice
0% (0 votes)
7. aa abuse words really don't matter - whats in a word?
0% (0 votes)
8. aa abuse has helped millions who choose not to notice aa abuse
0% (0 votes)
9. do your own thing and just go someplace else and ignor aa abuse
0% (0 votes)
10, make aa abuse great again!
100% (1 vote)
Total votes: 1

Read this for the comments section

This article isn't in itself saying anything new on the topic of addiction being a disease, however, the comments section underneath the article is fascinating. It contains the most varied collection of opinions on addiction I have ever come across. It pretty much covers the whole spectrum of opinions on whether or not addiction is a disease and whether or not the 12 Step Program is helpful/dangerous etc. and everything in between.

Stepper Cult Tip

Don't ask a doorknob to give you spiritual advice when you've dropped an Acid tab.......it might just do that

(Sick) Stepper Cult Joke

When is a lying, scare-mongering, control freak and sexual predator.....NOT a lying scare-mongering, control freak and sexual predator? When they are a 12 step spiritual guru and 12 step life coach

What's happened to Janus the nonsense thats stopped her inccessant 12 step sell?

She's finally realized how inappropriate her presence is & joined a pro AA forum
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She's deeped her spiritual connection with her made up higher power & has floated off to a whole new time continual
0% (0 votes)
She's relapsed, back out there & selling her ass down the corner
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The mental health authority locked her up in the nut house
0% (0 votes)
She's gone into such a fury typing rebuffs to anti 12 steps her fingers are worn down stumps & can't work keyboards no more
0% (0 votes)
She's finally found a boyfriend & has the poor bugger locked in her room, he hasn't seen the light of day for 3 weeks now
0% (0 votes)
After plagueing us for years (seems like it) she's realized the sense in what we say & is undergoing deprogramming fromAA treatm
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 0

Off Topic - The good in people, Inmates in Parker County Jail, Texas break out of cell to save Officer having a heart attack. AA General Service Area 66 Sanctity of Life.

(CNN)A group of Texas inmates are being hailed as heroes after they bust out of a holding cell -- to save a corrections officer's life.
The Parker County Sheriff's Office just released security camera footage of the June 23 incident.

List of reputable Doctors who claim Addiction is not a Disease

Dr. Stanton Peeles says addiction is not a disease.
Dr. Mark Willengbring says addiction is a disease
Dr. Lance Dodes says addiction is not a brain disease nor a DSM diagnosis
Dr. Gabor Mate says addiction is a disease
Dr. Marc Lewis says addiction is not a disease
Dr. John Kelly says addiction is a disease
Dr. Carl Hart says addiction is not a brain disease
Dr. Marvin Seppella says addiction is a disease
Dr. Gene Heyman says addiction is not a disease
Dr. Lee Ann Kaskutas says addiction is a disease

B.I.T.E cult awareness.

If you attend alot of AA meetings, watch the posted video and aswer all the questions honestly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6yCvBesfXU

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