See these analyses of the A.A. success rate, which show that A.A. has basically a zero-percent cure rate:
Those sobriety coins given out
— How many people go from picking up the One Day coin to getting the 5- or
10- or 20-years coins?
What was the sobriety rate in the early days of A.A.?
Alcoholics Anonymous never saved millions of
alcoholics — that untrue slogan has been Bill Wilson's fraudulent claim from the very beginning.
Analysis of a spreadsheet from
the Foxhall Group in Omaha, Nebraska, which shows that they have a terrible
retention rate. Each year, they take in 400 to 420 new people, and only 10 become
long-term sober members.
- A.A. does not have a retention rate, it has a churn rate. The routine is,
another 10,000 people are sentenced to A.A. by courts, or pushed into A.A. by a
so-called "treatment center", or
coerced or pressured in some other manner,
and then another 10,000 people drop out of A.A.
See the following documents for a mathematical analysis of that. Especially see Section 4 of Part 2
for the retention rate and the effectiveness of A.A.
The_Mathematics_of_Alcoholics_Anonymous_-_Part_1.pdf — Analysis of the mathematics of Alcoholics Anonymous, using A.A.'s own published documents, part 1.
The_Mathematics_of_Alcoholics_Anonymous_-_Part_2.pdf — Analysis of the mathematics of Alcoholics Anonymous, using A.A.'s own published documents, part 2.
This one is the most damning evidence of all, because it came from a doctor
who loves Alcoholics Anonymous, and is one of its biggest promoters.
He was also a member of the Board of Trustees of Alcoholics Anonymous World
Services, Inc., until he rotated off of the board.
Earlier, he also became a Professor of Psychology at Harvard University.
Many years earlier,
Doctor George E. Vaillant
clearly demonstrated that A.A. treatment kills patients. For the better part of 20 years,
Dr. Vaillant treated alcoholics with Alcoholics Anonymous, and
he tried hard to prove that A.A. works.
His A.A.-based treatment
program produced a zero-percent success rate above
normal spontaneous remission, and worse, it had the
highest death rate of any kind of alcoholism treatment program that he studied.
Dr. Vaillant candidly called the A.A. death rate "appalling".
At the end of an 8-year tracking period, the score with his first 100 A.A.-treated patients
was: 5 sober, 29 dead, and 66 still drinking.
But 5% per year is the normal rate of spontaneous remission in alcoholics —
what Dr. Vaillant called "the natural history of alcoholism".
That's how many alcoholics recover on their own, alone, without any "treatment"
or "support group". A.A. cannot claim the credit for those
recoveries, no matter whether they attend some A.A. meetings or not,
and Dr. Vaillant clearly said that. So 5 minus 5 equals zero, the real A.A. recovery rate.