1. I used to attend the badger group in waukesha, the biggest aa cult in waukesha, once a year they fly their guru Clancy I. in to tell his story. The same one for the last 17 years or so... the same story over and over again... What has always been shocking to me is the rationalization of a death after a person has quit taking their meds under the so-called direction of their sponsor. ... the new york office was contacted many times because of deaths over the years, but there have never been any consequences set upon them. They all scatter under the dictum, "aa is made up of individual members".

2. In AA, I have encountered countless people who are honestly spooky and cult-like in their behaviors. Many of them belong to a subset of AA that really creeps me the fuck out is called The Pacific Group.

3. I had the bad fortune also of getting mixed up in a UK offshoot of Clancy's Pacific Group cult... I knew something was weird right off but they were the closest meetings to my house. So for your records, The Plymouth Group in Plymouth, UK, which expanded to the Vision For You and Road to Recovery groups in London are straight-up mind-control cults using standard mind-control tactics. Those guys definitely don't have a clue as to what Easy Does It means!

4. And here, in a MySpace blog,
   http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=137850505&blogID=276903523
   a former member of the "Pacific Group" on the West Coast states that the Pacific Group and the Midtown Group share a lot of the same characteristics. Especially notice the missionary attitude, the intention to move to other towns and start Pacific-style groups there.

5. There is a group in Los Angeles that is very Cult-like. The group is called the Pacific Group. The leader Clancy is getting older now I don't know if he is still @ it, but for years the women complained about his sexual misconduct and financial exploitation. He controlled members in all areas of their lives. He had people show up on Sat. and pick up trash in his yard. It was his way or no way.

6. I have seen the cult-like power demonstrated by figures such as "Clancy". ... I went to a UK convention last year (the first and last time) to hear this lunatic claim that the world's doctors are wrong and he is right concerning BiPolar disorder.

7. ...Clancy and the Pacific Group in Los Angeles. The group started about 40 years ago and Clancy appointed himself the all-knowing guru. It has grown over the years into a very large cult. The women in the group complained about Clancy's sexual exploitation for years. To my knowledge nothing was done about it.

8. I returned to LA to live with my family in Brentwood, just down the street from the central meeting location of Clancy Imusland's Pacific Group. Naturally, I went there, because of its proximity, ...
   I quickly got absorbed into the group's meeting routine, sponsorship techniques (as a sponsee), sexist practices, elitist attitude, weekends at Clancy's house, parties, dances, dinners on and on. It was my first introduction into the structured cult lifestyle. ...
   I would place the Pacific Group of AA in a more advanced category of behavioral control and thought reform.

9. You mention Pacific Group and one other. That is more than a group. It's been a movement impacting AA everywhere. I think it's very dangerous.

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