What 12 Step group was ben a member of

Alcoholics Anonymous
0% (0 votes)
Narcotics Anonymous
0% (0 votes)
Insulters Anonymous
100% (2 votes)
Total votes: 2

Tricks, Lies, and "Dumb Logic" (Part 2)

Most scientists actually believe that billions of years ago "nothing" exploded and created everything, including you and me. What a ridiculous thing to believe and teach. However, if most scientists say that something is true many people will believe it no matter how ridiculous it is. Believing that "nothing" can explode is like believing that "no one" wrote what you are reading right now - that the words just appeared all by themselves out of nowhere. Nevertheless, this crazy idea that "nothing" created everything is in public school textbooks. Why?

Why Let Facts Get In the Way Of An Entertaining Conspiracy Theory?

I decided to do some research. It took about 5 minutes to discover that the information being disseminated on this forum regarding the link between The Oxford Group and AA is incorrect.

Seriously Jim

Do you really think it's a fair thing to spam the forum? Do you really think god approves of what your doing? Is God ok with the lies you practice? Do you really think your setting a good christian example?

God As We Understand Him Bless Al-Anon

Eventhough I hate it. And, by the way, I’m finally out. (Someone from the meeting took pity on me and took over my commitment.) It took about a week of me going to Al-Anon for my husband to begin to question 12-Step. Who were these people I was spending all this time with? (Just people like me who need help, dear). Why did I need to go every day and leave him alone to watch the kids? (I’m in recovery just like you and I need support and spiritual enlightenment). What is hell is codependence? (It’s a disease just like your alcoholism, and the whole family has it!) Who is Mariah?

Einstein (the Scientist and Genius) Presented Scientific Evidence for the Existence of God

Top atheist, Anthony Flew, has changed his mind about God. He said that Albert Einstein was right when he felt that there must be intelligence behind the integrated complexities in the natural world. In simple English, that means that Einstein said that dead things like rocks, metal, plastic, light, and air are made up of such complicated systems that depend on each other to exist, that there must be some intelligent being that put them together. Anthony Flew said that with the huge discoveries in biological science since Einstein's day, its even more obvious there must be a God.

No fuckin' way

Tricks, Lies, and "Dumb Logic" (Part 1)

One of the greatest problems today is that most people don't think. They simply believe whatever they hear without giving it much thought, especially when it is something they want to believe. However, if you are a person who thinks honestly about things, you will see that what is said in this video makes perfectly good sense. So listen to some of the tricks, lies and "dumb logic" that is used to deceive millions and millions of people. Orange rightly states that his "site is best viewed with a brain". Well the same is true when it comes to watching this video.

A daily reprieve?

This is the kind of profound knowledge every alcoholic needs to recover successfully in the year 2014:

Drunk or Alcoholic? What is the Difference? & Can Jesus Christ Help You Become Free?

Is there a difference between being a drunk and being an alcoholic? Are addictions the result of disease or genetics, or is it a matter of the heart? Can an addiction be overcome without the help of pop psychology? These are questions that the author of the following article tries to answer. Click this link to read the rest of this article: http://www.exdrunkard.com/

Scientific evidence proves Jim Battle to be the village idiot, Does he have any shame?????

No Jim's usen to being a fool
80% (4 votes)
Yes Jim's not that usen to being a fool
20% (1 vote)
Total votes: 5

i think the endless anti god debate - is distracting from the anti aa issue.

and i think people who argue about god one way or the other ain't getting enough burning bush.

Where The Bible & The Orange Papers Agree and Disagree (Part 3) - Addictive Voice or Lust & Devils?

(Words in the [brackets] are mine unless stated otherwise.) If you've read the homepage of The Orange Papers, you know that these papers are a book which presents Orange's "analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous and substance misuse recovery programs, and real recovery." Orange does a wonderful job of exposing AA for the evil program that it is and offers a wealth of good information. In doing so, he displays a very analytical mind which is something I greatly admire. However, for the benefit of true believers in Christ, I would like to present a Christian perspective

Easter Sunday, B.C.

A viral "news story" published on DailyCurrant.com claims that former Alaska governor and Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin proclaimed during a recent TV interview that "We need to return Easter back to the way it was when Jesus was alive."

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/10/23/sarah-palin-claims-jesus-celebrated-e...

Sarah Palin claimed today that Jesus Christ celebrated Easter during his time on Earth.

Christian Boy Dies For 3 Minutes, Meets Allah in Heaven

A young Christian boy who briefly died on a surgeon’s operating table this weekend says he met someone named Allah in heaven. Bobby Anderson, the son of a well-known Christian pastor in Atlanta, suffered internal injuries from an automobile accident and was technically dead for 3 minutes before being resuscitated. During that time the 12-year-old claims he visited the afterlife and spoke to several leading figures of the Islamic religion.

Anti AA movement?

That term makes us look like a bunch of idiots.

YANK U 4 INSPIRATION 2 RETURN 2 AA

W AL DTUHH F**ED UP SHIITE ON OPF CAN AA REALLY BE CRAZIER THAN OPF IS AT THIS MOMENT//AT LEAST SOME HAVE FAITH IN EXISTENCE OF GOD/GENERATOR OPERATOR DESTROYER AND most meetings refrain from gutter mouthed attacks now being posted inside this antiAA OPF I'll have to rerun return to some cattle calls to mrememeis AA as fcked up asOPF IS RIGHT NOW w.OBEY ME ORANGE OBEY ME ORANGE GET RID OF JBATTTLES OR ELSE WE'LL KEEP SLAGGIN /SHITTING ON.CRAPPING ON JACKIN THE OPF

What were your thoughts

I'm just curious about what others were thinking while they sat in the rooms of the stepper cult. For myself my thoughts were that the whole program made absolutely no sense. Do some people really buy into it 100% no questions asked or was there always that little voice in the back of your head telling you somethings not quite right here. "Fake it till you make it" if that's not a red flag I don't know what is.

Whats ben's next insult against me goining to be?

On second thoughts DONT answer that one.......you may get barred from this forum for a personal attack on a member

'You are a fucking class 1 cultist.' is that a personal attack on me by ben?

No, its just a bit of fun for those deprogramming from the cult of steppism
0% (0 votes)
Yes
100% (3 votes)
Total votes: 3

the jim battle deadhorse beating - stopped the no-disease/willpower debate

makes me wonder if the jim battle persona;
is a ruse to block other specific debates as well;
its such a useless dead horse;
why do certain people keep piling on;
i've seen this debate disruption pattern before;
monica lewinski distracted from bank modernization act - rescinding glass steagal;
and on the huffington post and thefix;
when specific topics come up that some don't want debated;
someone throws a dead horse in the ring;
its meant to stop debate;

It seems Jim isn't the only crazy evangelist around.

The whole movement seems to rife with sex, drugs and mental illness.

"Ted Haggard, a preacher who stepped down in 2006 from his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., following a sex and drug scandal, recently spoke out about Isaac Hunter’s suicide, an event that took the evangelical world by storm last week.

Is the Orange Papers Forum a Good Idea that Has Gone Bad?

YES
33% (2 votes)
NO
67% (4 votes)
Total votes: 6

Documented Miracles of Healing After Prayer

I found this article which asks and answers the question "Are miraculous healings proof of God?" The writer of this article says that "It is not uncommon to hear of someone being healed miraculously, after prayer. But are these stories really true? And what do they tell us about God?" Again, the Bible does not teach that God ALWAYS answers prayers for healings (and some other things), but there is proof that He sometimes does. That proof is the fact that one of the ways Jesus Christ proved that He is God was by healing thousands of people miraculously.

As "We"understand Him

Who is this Him that "we" are suppose to understand? Soberman

Another win against the "Troubled Teen Industry" - Allynwood Academy in Hancock (formerly the Family Foundation School) has been closed down effective Aug 8, 2014

In another win for the activists exposing the "Troubled Teen Industry" the Family Foundation School Truth Campaign has accomplished another abusive camp to be shut down in Hancock, NY.

Hancock school for at-risk youth to close for good at week's end

Staff Report The Daily Star
August 7, 2014

Allynwood Academy in Hancock, formerly known as the Family Foundation School, is closing effective Friday, according to a letter sent to employees by administrator Richard Reeve.

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