Richard Allen Paul, 57 of Cloquet in Carlton County Minnesota has been mandated to attend three AA meetings a week. He has gone through the elite training of Hazelden on the proper methods to chant the 12 Steps of Bill Wilson and will be back in society soon. He will make a fine Sponcee and Sponsor, so what if he was found outside a teenagers window in a ski mask with a gun peeking in, people change when they become anonymous in the secret society of Alcoholics Anonymous. He may even help in his area with the yearly bidding wars to bring Young People in Alcoholics Anonymous (YPAA) to his fine city when he gets high enough in the cult. Paul was the director of Behavior Services for Essentia Health in Duluth before he was arrested and I am not sure if making him join an Anonymous, secret society is the correct rehabilitation for him.

Published March 14, 2012, 01:29 PM
By: Jana Peterson, Pine Journal
"Sixth District Judge Robert Macaulay quadrupled the recommended jail time Wednesday when he sentenced a Cloquet man who was caught peeping at his neighbor’s juvenile daughters through her bedroom window.
Richard Allen Paul, 57, of Cloquet had pleaded guilty to “interference with privacy” and was sentenced Wednesday in State District Court in Carlton County in front of his victims, other neighbors and his own family.
The charge is a felony because the person whose privacy was violated was a minor.
B.J. Berg discovered Paul outside Berg’s home at 11:30 p.m. on June 14, 2011, wearing a black ski mask, tan shirt and jeans peering into a bedroom window. When Berg confronted him, Paul said something about trying to find his dogs. Berg told him, “Not at my daughter’s window, you’re not’’ and told him to get off his property.
Berg followed Paul to his home and called the police, who searched Paul’s home and found night vision goggles, a ski mask, clothing and a loaded handgun. Paul admitted to police that he had a firearm on his hip when he was outside Berg’s home.
That was nine months ago. Since then, Paul has completed a residential addiction treatment program at Hazelden and is undergoing follow-up treatment, counseling and attending Alcoholics Anonymous.
In his victim impact statement, Berg talked about the close-knit nature of their rural Cloquet neighborhood, and how Paul had built trust with his neighbors and their children over the last 12 years.
“This whole ordeal has been a sad lesson for our kids and family to learn … that you may not be able to trust the people you have grown to respect, and that your home may not be the safe haven you thought it was,” Berg told the court, adding that his children haven’t ventured down the road on their bikes to visit friends since then. “Some of their childhood innocence has been lost and their perception of safety in our home has been diminished.”
Paul, who was director of Behavior Services for Essentia Health in Duluth before he was arrested, made a statement apologizing to the Berg family, his neighbors and the community.
“Not a day goes by that I don’t regret my actions,” Paul told the court. “Not a day goes by that I don’t pray for [the Berg family] that God gives them relief from the pain I gave to them.”
Macaulay noted that Paul appeared to be “genuinely shamed, remorseful and interested in taking his life in a different direction,” but said he agreed with Berg that Paul’s actions that night were “bold, brazen and significantly victimized [Berg’s] family and the community as a whole.”
“I think there should be significantly greater jail sentence [than the 30 days recommended by probation officers], so I am imposing a sentence of 120 days in jail,” Macaulay told the defendant.
The sentence, however, was a staggered sentence. The judge told Paul he was to serve the first 30 days in the Carlton County Law Enforcement Center starting immediately — actually, only 16 days with credit for four days served and time for good behavior. Additional 30-day increments could be stayed provided Paul follows his 21 probation conditions.
As part of those conditions, Paul must:
Enter and successfully complete sex offender treatment.
Enter and complete individual counseling as directed and continue until no longer recommended.
Have no contact whatsoever with the Berg family nor go within 500 feet of their property.
Have no contact whatsoever with any minor under the age or 18 unless it’s approved in advance by his probation officer.
Attend AA three times a week.
Continue treatment program at Hazelden.
Attend weekly aftercare for chemical dependence.
Not possess or access online any pornographic or sexually explicit materials.
Abstain from alcohol or any mood-altering drugs unless prescribed by a physician."
Source: http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/225696/group/homepage/
(reported via nadaytona.org http://nadaytona.org/2012/03/14/peeping-tom-now-a-convicted-felon-mandated... )
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:30
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I have this pamphlet, and I
I have this pamphlet, and I can't see anything in it that could be construed as offensive. Asking teens if they have problem drinking that interferes with grades, scholastic activities, their peer groups... if they ever lie about drinking, steal if from cabinets... I see nothing wrong with it. Some can just be stage stuff for teens. Others might see it as more serious. I remember one kid in highschool that I knew of that went to rehab. I was startled by that, but I can see behaviors in ths pamphlet that I did.
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:06
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What I find offensive is that
What I find offensive is that the pamphlet even exists in the first place. Until AA or NA has a set up like Alateen they have zero business inviting teens, and telling them everything is hunky dory.
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becket
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 10:55
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What does this mean,
What does this mean, AntiDenial? "Until AA or NA has a set up like Alateen they have zero business inviting teens, and telling them everything is hunky dory." Is this a vote for or against Alateen? Alateen has been in existence for at least 45 years. When I attended, certainly no one was telling me "everything is hunky dory"!
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:01
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Yes, minors smoking ANYWHERE.
Yes, minors smoking ANYWHERE. Illegal is illegal. I doubt contributing to the deliquency of a minor would stick unless someone gave it to them or bought it for them. Fortunately, smokers meetings seem to be getting more rare all of the time.
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:09
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True, minors smoking is
True, minors smoking is illegal anywhere. But Organizations and adults have a responsibility to NOT " contribute to the delinquency of a minor". If an Organization rents out space that invites minors, their should be a policy on the matter in reference to smoking. I wonder if ICYPAA does? I think I know the answer to that, but not sure....
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JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:11
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ICYPAA last year and Smoking - eye witness accounts
"I returned to San Francisco this past weekend, and was confronted with a different, even more obnoxious face of addiction. While wheeling my suitcase into the hotel lobby, I was greeted by hundreds of unruly kids ranging in age from 13 to 18. They were pierced, tattooed, mohawked, and generally attired in the kinds of clothing that teenagers who claim that they don't want attention wear when they are desperate for it. Many were loitering outside the building chain smoking. I asked the woman at the check-in desk what convention was booked for the weekend. She failed to understand that I was discreetly asking about the group of Red Bull chugging brats and so mentioned a conference of German scientists. I did not see any future Wernher von Brauns among the pint sized punk rawkers. But then the woman mumbled something vague about a group of young people."
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/09/14/rehab-for-kids
Absolutely disgusting, you should be ashamed of even belonging to a cult that puts these events on.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:33
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I'm not. I've heard similar
I'm not. I've heard similar things about cheerleading camp.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
becket
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:08
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You sound like an old stick
You sound like an old stick-in-the-mud, JR Harris. Sounds like you've simply lost the zest for life. Is this because you're such a loner now?
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Ironic
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:04
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Became a duplicate post
Cuz I expanded it in the next post.
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:02
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Did you say something, Ironic
Did you say something, Ironic? I certainly would have.
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Ironic
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:03
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Minors and cigarettes
I've seen an oldtimer (knowingly) give a minor a cigarette more than once.
In fact, my rehab had a 17 year old in it (she had to leave after a week bc the facility was not licensed to have minors be inpatient. Her parents pulled her out of her junior year mid-semster for a WEED PROBLEM!!!! Okay I mean, she made me look like a lightweight but come on!) and they told her they wouldn't tell her parents she was smoking cigarettes and when we stopped at the gas station for cigarettes like we did 1-2x per week, the tech would watch as someone in our group bought her cigarettes for her.
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:08
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Very interesting Ironic. I
Very interesting Ironic. I would think this would be a hands down violation on a federal level and state level.
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Ironic
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:31
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It was definitely a violation
Which is why she was only there for a week. The insurance company busted them and they had to discharge her or face the state licensing board and explain why the hell a minor was sleeping at an inpatient rehab for adults (to my understanding, outpatient would have been legal, but I'm not sure).
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:41
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Minors are really getting the
Minors are really getting the short end of the stick when it comes to recovery options and mental health services.
It is a good thing the insurance caught it. But the center had to know, right?
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Ironic
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 13:00
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I'm sure they knew
They are just some greedy little fucks. I've said here before, they bill people for services we never received. When my friend got her bill it had 6 one on one therapy sessions on it at $100 a piece. She had only one the whole time she was there.
Persephone In Exile
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:41
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We had 3 minors at mine. Two
We had 3 minors at mine. Two were 17, one was 16.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Clara
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:10
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Who offered to sponsor them?
Who offered to sponsor them? Were they women? Another solution to this is just to go to women's only (or men) meetings. I know women that have done that their entire AA tenure.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Ironic
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:05
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Of course I did, Clara
Do you really think I would have skipped the chance to point out the irony of a teenager with a weed "problem" coming to NA and smoking something that can actually kill her?
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:10
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LOL! I am glad to see you
LOL! I am glad to see you stepped up. As a practitioner of mm for my dog, you aren't going to get complaints from me.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:16
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But what about Richard Allen Paul? He can go to these events!
He can even help run them. Were talking teens from 13-18 years old. What happens when he starts peeping in hotel windows with a ski mask on and a gun. i suppose you are going to call it an outside issue?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:36
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I think Clara might realize
I think Clara might realize we have some very valid points here about minors. That is the sense I get. Yet there is conflict with wanting to protect AA. I would like to see her come around and "get it", and maybe she could be an AA insider that helps change things internally. One can only hope.
Either AA and NA change policy about minors voluntarily or it is just a matter of time before they are forced to.
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:39
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The Richard Allen Paul's of
The Richard Allen Paul's of the world should not have minors given to them on a silver platter by 12 steppers. It is like the elephant in the room. It nothing short of insane policies.
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avogadno
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:38
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Richard Allen Paul can go to Alcoholics Anonymous
Richard Allen Paul can go to Alcoholics Anonymous events, meetings, and also become an AA sponsor. AA refuses no one (even sexual and violent criminals) and also solicits prisons for felons to come and join their religious cult/self help program. They even recommend a meeting on the very day that inmates are released. AA allows these criminals to involve themselves personally with other members (sick and vulnerable women and children) and actually suggests that they and no one divulge their real full name. Actually it's a tradition in which they are proud of! They integrate members withouth any regulation and encourage members to sponsor one another which entails divulging personal information including sexual and sinful behavior. Group confessions are common as well as prayer sessions. Sure, Richard Allen Paul has is allowed and even if he's still as sick as his secrets he can sponsor as many people (women, young people, minors included) at a time that he wants to. All this anonymously and without training or guidlines and also without ANYONE regulating his behavior.
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btnben
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:19
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But JR....
...AA can only be held accountable if it's a Conference approved ski mask...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:42
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Maybe Clara can call the GSR and get it "Approved" at the next
Business meeting. Of course then it would have to go to the DCM to go to the main conference. We will need to do this with many Intergroups to get it even put on the decision block.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:34
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Anything to make it about me,
Anything to make it about me, JR, and then claim that I change the subject - LOL!
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:38
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No Clara, you haven't done a good 4th Step
Can't you see that your actions are putting young women in AA at risk and in grave danger because of your actions?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Clara
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:30
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No, it is not, JR. But I do
No, it is not, JR. But I do think that my 4th step probably helped me more than yours ever did.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
becket
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:54
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You presume too much, Clara.
You presume too much, Clara. JR Harris never did any steps, he just got kicked to the curb. Word is he flew right over the steps on his way down.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:58
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And why should I do Steps prospect hunter?
I am proud that I escaped the cult. Back to your old ways I see, playing the "Your not an Alcoholics" card like you tried with AntiDenial. I thought you just said you weren't in AA or NA? What, are you in one of the gateway cults?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
btnben
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:02
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Would you say
the person who wrote this was in AA, JR. Someone called Marietta. Don't know if you've heard of her...lol
"Here's where you learn that sobriety is an inside job. As you learn to navigate through irritations you will notice that it is only your response to the irritations and not the irritations themselves that are so troublesome. Whether or not you weren't feeling up to par, it would have been good to remember that your Higher Power is working from within. If you have not reconciled Steps One and Two, now is the time. You say you "were not prepared to properly deal with how to get through such times." I can't stress enough the importance of a sponsor in times like this. If you have not yet engaged someone to sponsor you, Bill, now is the time.
The revelation that you were not properly prepared is a life line for you. It's a kick in the pants. It's the alarm going off. It's Sponsor Time. (And if you have a sponsor, put him on speed dial!)
I would guess most of us have had some excruciatingly dark and fearsome times in sobriety, and not just early sobriety. We talked with others who have had similar situations come up, others who could help us negotiate the cliffs and pits. Only you know when you're going to any lengths to get and stay sober. This is a program of action, which means going to meetings AND working with a sponsor to move through the Steps. Otherwise you're a visitor here, and that's fine, but I don't believe that's what you set out to do when you got here."
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
becket
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 10:58
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You did not escape the "cult"
You did not escape the "cult", JR Harris!! You are immersed in it up to your eyeballs every single day with your obsessions and your posting on this forum. Where else do you take your "opinions", I wonder? Do you ever sleep?
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:53
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Paul was the "director of Behavior Services for Essentia Health"
Did anyone notice that? He knows all about Bill Wilson chanting, but he has to go to Hazelden for a refresher course? And after this course and AA he won't be running around with a ski mask and gun peeking in underage females windows in the middle of the summer!
http://www.essentiahealth.org/Main/Home.aspx
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:26
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That was a trip to find out
That was a trip to find out that he was the director of Behavioral Dervices for Essential Health" !
Unbelievable!
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mfc66uk
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:59
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Alateen is very small here in
Alateen is very small here in the uk because of the fact that you need government background checks for the adults supervising and I was told that caused problems with the good old anonimity bit. Again I don't think this type of thing should be handled by a 12 step organisation anyway and that professional help with the tools to take appropriate action to protect young vulnerable people is a better solution.
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:30
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I agree mfc66uk, kids are
I agree mfc66uk, kids are better off with professional counselors. BUT- if AA does not quit having minors at their meetings and prospecting for them at our schools, there needs to checks and balances.
At least you cannot be a sex offender, or even accused of being a sex offender, or a felon in Alateen.
Plus they have other safeguards like having 2 adults always with a minor.
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btnben
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:36
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A way around the problem.
Child abusers are very sneaky. A lady in AA who is a dear friend (we don't talk about AA...lol) had a nightmare problem a few years ago. She met a guy in the rooms - he seemed normal and pleasant and everything. The lady in question is no fool but she was taken in by him. She had grandchildren and children of neighbours that she looked after during the day. I don't know the full details - it's not something you ask about, you just pick up what people tell you over time. It turned out that he was a registered pedophile and had been in prison for abusing his own children. He was living a pack of lies and NO-ONE in AA saw through it.
These guys don't just go straight for kids. They get to the kids through the mothers too.
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:09
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More NA Minor Propaganda
'Meeting Attendance
NA members find that regular meeting attendance
helps them stay clean from drugs and feel connected to
the NA program and fellowship. NA literature suggests
that those who are new to NA attend a meeting a day
for at least the first ninety days, when possible, and
then maintain regular meeting attendance. Many
young members have said that being restricted from
attending meetings can hurt their recovery process.
For a recovering addict, this can be the equivalent
of being grounded from school or not being allowed
to treat an illness. Recovery involves creating new,
healthy relationships, and this usually begins in NA
meetings. These relationships are an important part of
achieving abstinence from drugs and learning how to
live a new way of life.'
Do you see how NA is trying to guilt trip the parents or guardians of teens? This makes me so mad!
NA Pamphlet- For The parents And Guardians Of Young People Of NA
http://na.org/admin/include/spaw2/uploads/files/EN3127.pdf
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:12
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More Parent Guilt Trip
From the NA Brochure
'Recovery in NA is an ongoing process and
members continue to attend NA meetings
long after they’ve stopped using drugs. Many
young members say that being asked when
they are going to stop attending meetings
doesn’t come across as supportive.'
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AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:15
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NA Admitting NA Members Might Tell Your Child To Take No Meds!
If Your Child IS Taking Medication
NA has no opinion on the use of prescribed medication.
However, NA members sometimes offer their personal
opinions about the use of prescribed medication for
mental or physical health. Members may even tell
your child that he or she is not clean. These are the
opinions of individual NA members, not NA as an
organization. '
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Persephone In Exile
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:48
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Damn.
Damn.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
btnben
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:50
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Feel better for that PIE?
LOL
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Persephone In Exile
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 06:51
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It's just disgusting, that's
It's just disgusting, that's all. It's nothing I've not seen or heard before right in front of me, but that whole nonsense of bullying people over not "being clean" if they are under the care of a doctor. Honestly. Oh, but it's not actually NA's view, just that of members. Bullshit! What, they're COMPLETELY "powerless"? No, NA, tell your fucking loser oldtimers to knock it the hell off! Give a few orders, for once! Exert some measure of control! If not, start sending out a hell of a lot more disclaimers to newcomers as to how they're about to be treated!
Effing NA. Oh, how I despise them. Usually it's just a benign sense of pity for them all, then I remember how harmful the idiots can be.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
becket
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 12:21
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Oh, the language.
Oh, the language.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:12
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Well if they do go off them
Well if they do go off them PIE, it should be done witha doctors supervision, not an AA member.
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Clara
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:12
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I hope that you also reprint
I hope that you also reprint AA and SMARTs mutual position on the same issue. I am glad to know that NA is not the same program as AA.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
JR Harris
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:48
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A 135 comments to date? Wow it's interesting what happens when
A known peeping tom who was outside a teens room with a ski mask and a gun peeking in the window gets caught and sentenced to 3 AA meeting a week.
LOOK at the comments folks, most of them are apologetic of AA or trying to deflect the conversation. I wonder why?
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btnben
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:49
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Get Clara onto....
.... meetings in Florida parks and it'll be up to 500 in an hour...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
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Clara
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 05:14
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I would love to. Mini
I would love to. Mini-jamboree or a big picnic! As long as it is paid for time as would be expected of others, no one would have an opinion.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
AntiDenial
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 20:14
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Good article that shows the
Good article that shows the insanity of the judicial system and AA World Services.
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