Where can I get a burka?

I was just reading some blogs on another site and this idea seemed perfect to me. Stay anonymous in an anonymous meeting - brilliant. The blogger in question was talking about hiding a voice recorder, but with the right design and manufacture you could hold a whole recording studio under one of those things...lol.

I've definitely got too much time on my hands today...lol. This made me laugh too :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Xk37NP43Q&feature=related

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Ironic's picture

Have you heard of the English Defence League?
btnben's picture

There was no insult, or political message intended. I just read it on another site and it made me laugh. I'm not a great supporter of the "Thought Police". And I would rather bite my own head off than join any kind of fascist organisation. I prefer to stand on my own - if and when I cock up, I live with it. If anyone truely finds this offensive, I'll remove it. If Marietta finds it offensive I'll put up another one...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

Ironic's picture

I was thinking that if they had their way, Muslim girls born in England would not have to grow up believing that they need to cover themselves up. Not that it's any better than always having your tits hanging out.
btnben's picture

And I think that's the way things are going. I work with two Pakistani women. I didn't even notice until the subject came up in discussion. None of my business, really...lol. I've spent nearly half of my life in foreign countries and have often experienced racially based mickey taking. Insult was not intended and none was taken. There is still a guy in Kassel, Germany who would call me "Empire" if we met in the street...lol. He's the one who got a bit upset when I explained that the English invented concentration camps and we had a 95% death rate. Far higher than Hitler's. I think he felt a bit deprived of the ability to feel bad about his race...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

Ironic's picture

But as a woman and a Jew, I am fearful.
btnben's picture

I haven't seen this since I was at school. Sadly, it always seems relevant :- First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller (14 January 1892 – 6 March 1984)

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

JR Harris's picture

There is heavy debate over the banning of the traditional Burqa of the Islamic Faith on British and Fench soil: "The British debate over veils began in October 2006 when the MP and government minister Jack Straw wrote in his local newspaper, the Lancashire Evening Telegraph, that, while he did not want to be "prescriptive", he preferred talking to women who did not wear a niqab (face veil) as he could see their face, and asked women who were wearing such items to remove them when they spoke to him, making clear that they could decline his request and that a female member of staff was in the room. Straw said he told the newspaper this information to open a debate on the subject, and not because of the upcoming deputy leader election in the Labour Party.[1] Straw was Foreign Secretary at the time of the Iraq War and since 1979 has been the Member of Parliament for the constituency of Blackburn, where at least one quarter of the population are Muslim. Straw later stated that he would like to see the veil "abolished" altogether, adding that he was worried about "implications of separateness".[1] Straw's views were met with a mixed response, with some agreeing to the idea of a debate, some arguing that Muslim women should not wear veils in the United Kingdom, and some, such as the newspaper the Daily Express, calling for the veil to be banned. Others were opposed to Straw's intervention, and some accused him of encouraging prejudice. In 2010, Jack Straw publicly apologised over his 2006 comments, stating "If I had realised the scale of publicity that they [his comments] received in October 2006, I wouldn’t have made them and I am sorry that it has caused problems and I offer that apology." [2]" Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_debate_over_veils "The controversy over the Islamic scarf (hijab) sparked in October 1989, when three female students were suspended for refusing to remove their scarves in class at Gabriel Havez Middle School in Creil. In November 1989, the Conseil d'État ruled that the scarf's quasi religious expression was compatible with the laïcité of public schools. That December, minister of education Lionel Jospin issued a statement declaring that educators had the responsibility of accepting or refusing the wearing of the scarf in classes on a case-by-case basis. In January 1990, three girls were suspended from Pasteur Middle School in Noyon, a banlieue north of Paris. The parents of one of the girls previously suspended from Gabriel Havez filed a defamation suit against its principal. Following these events, teachers at a middle school in Nantua held a general strike in protest against the scarf in school. A second government statement reiterated the need to respect the principle of secularity in public schools. In September 1994, a new memorandum, the "François Bayrou memo" was issued, delineating the difference between "discreet" religious symbols able to be brought into classrooms, and "ostentatious" religious symbols (including the hijab), which were to be forbidden in public establishments. In October of that year, students at St. Exupéry High School in Mantes-la-Jolie organized a demonstration of protest in favor of the right to wear the veil in classrooms. In November, 24 veiled students were suspended from the same high school as well as from Faidherbe High in Lille. Between 1994 and 2003 around 100 female students were suspended or expelled from middle and high schools for wearing the scarf in class. In nearly half of these cases, their exclusions were annulled by the French courts." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_scarf_controversy_in_France In the US, the ACLU Supports Burkas And Veils In Photo ID's with a case in Florida: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=69c_1217305657

~You can not moderate the truth. Just don't lie, steal or make stuff up out of thin air and expect to get away with it without it being pointed out to you. It's really very simple.~

I wanted to post this so bad in the thread about English "yooof" and alcohol, but didn't want to malign you Ben, nor any other Brits (nor to imply that this was anything other than a fringe EDL idiot). But it's one of my favorite videos ever, you've likely seen it already. No proof this guy is drunk either, he's possibly truly this confused: http://youtu.be/aYd9qbRz2fc But the real fun is in the remix, "Muslamic Ray Guns: The EDL Anthem": http://youtu.be/AIPD8qHhtVU
"Your pain is no credential here, it's just the shadow, shadow of my wound." --Leonard Cohen
btnben's picture

No insult at all PIE. These people have to be outed for what they are as often as possible. Jesus Christ - that guy could possibly breed...lol. There's an English entertainer, Mike Harding, who gave the best take on this lot I've ever heard. This was in the 80s when the far right party in the UK was called the National Front. Now, Mrs 'arding's boy was a sort of one man show. He's a comedian, but also does some very serious stuff. He's a great musician too. Really gifted for a little bloke with glasses...lol I saw him live one time and he told this funny story about a black guy he used to work with. The story was funny, but in the end the black guy belted someone for a racist remark and lost his job. Then Mike Harding said "At this point I was going to do a poem about the National Front, but there aren't many words that rhyme with 'front'". When everyone had stopped laughing he said "No - even that's too good for them" - Brilliant A good example of his serious stuff. He was born in WW II. His mother was a bride, a mother and a widow in the space of a year. "Old men sending young men out to kill other young men". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUK7Dm-IPI

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

causeandeffect's picture

I want Muslamic ray gun! haha
btnben's picture

.... a burka that can hide 20 Muslamic Ray Guns...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

btnben's picture

This includes a bit of what you posted, but adds some more fun...lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfQiXLOON0&feature=related

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

YES!! It's nice to see that guy with a laugh track. Even better than the auto-tuning! So was that Blackburn, then? I was trying to place the little bugger and just figured somewhere near Leeds....best guess. Of course, that showed a different date. I LOVE this video clip soooo much! I don't even know how you unlearn your speaking skills to that degree. "And what law is this?" "The Musl...Muslamic law.....I'm HERE TO PROTEST...like, RIGHT!" Kudos to the reporter & cameraman for not laughing hysterically during the rambling. But I love the guy behind Muslamic Ray Guns guy covering his face up as his friend/co-marcher tries to speak. Emphasis on the "tries".
"Your pain is no credential here, it's just the shadow, shadow of my wound." --Leonard Cohen

LOL....just because it was on the thread about Britain. Didn't want you to think my vision of the UK was solely this EDL fellow. Great progress though, huh? I remember the BNP seeming incoherent after the national front seeming incoherent. Seems to have reached its zenith of incoherence with this guy. Damned "interracial law". Er, "Iraqi law". You know, that "Muslamic law". That one, dammit!
"Your pain is no credential here, it's just the shadow, shadow of my wound." --Leonard Cohen
causeandeffect's picture

That is funny.
btnben's picture

Oxymoron with the emphasis on moron...lol. An infidel is someone without a belief - an atheist. I've watched it a few times now and it just gets funnier.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

Well, his co-marcher is even wearing a knock-off Intel shirt reading "Infidel Inside" behind him and I've seen many of these sort online identify as infidels. Not that they know much more about this supposed "Iraqi law". Yeah, if I ever need a laugh I go straight to this video or the remix. People are angry, but can't explain why. Lady, you ain't kidding.
"Your pain is no credential here, it's just the shadow, shadow of my wound." --Leonard Cohen
btnben's picture

It's a town in Lancashire - the arch enemies of Yorkshire, where Leeds is. They even went to war a few years ago (1455-85) - called the War of the Roses. Blackburn probably his it's zenith of notoriety in the mid-sixties with The Beatles "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". The song "A Day In The Life" has the lines (from memory...lol) "Two thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire. And though the holes were rather small, They had to count them all. Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall." It's obviously gone downhill since those dizzy heights...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

I'd make a comment about Mary, paper bags, drinking & the only way she could get laid when she was younger, but I can't be bothered.

Brett

marietta davis's picture

You mean Mary, the mother of Jesus? Do you mean Mary Queen of England and Ireland? Maybe you mean Mary Kay, cosmetics maven. Or Mary Wells, best known for the original Motown version of "My Guy." Mary Tyler Moore? Mary Poppins? Mary Lou Retton? Mary Magdalene? Mary Shelley? Mary had a little lamb?
Ironic's picture

I don't know (or really care) if this sounds racist, but I am 1. a woman 2. a Jew 3. a lesbian 4. a pork eater (yeah, it doesn't jibe with being Jewish, but the Nazis wouldn't have considered me less Jewish and I doubt the Islamic Courts Union would disagree with them) 5. a million other qualities that would get me a firing squad in Saudi Arabia/under Sharia law I'm sure you Brits are aware of the Islamic Courts that exist in your country. That is so fucking terrifying I cannot even put it into words. I can't imagine any woman wanting to go through any proceeding in those courts (they nearly always lose), but just because they have a "choice" as defined under British law doesn't mean they REALLY have a choice. Many Muslim women are straight up slaves to their families. Those legal decisions are BINDING. It makes me sick to my stomach that a woman in BRITAIN could be put through the injustice of pretty much being forced into accepting Sharia law (or face disowning, or worse. Honor killings are alive and well in England). When a Muslim woman is "choosing" to cover up everything but her eyes, is that really her choice? Or is it once again a choice of towing the line or facing disowning (or worse)? What if some of those ideas, like allowing Sharia Law ANYWHERE in the country, end up over here? Idk, maybe as a Jew I feel extra vulnerable. I had a good friend in school from Israel, and I remember her coming to school and telling me that the ice cream shop in the city of her birth was blown to bits by a suicide bomber. Something like 20 people died. I can't say I fault Tommy Robinson. I watched a documentary about the EDL on Current TV and found it very interesting. Especially when some guy wearing a turban smacked him in the face. It is easy to see which bunch is more violent. That last sentence is a massive massive generalization by the way. Also, the documentary was talking about how the EDL started, and they showed footage of a parade in Luton held for the soldiers returning from Afghanistan. As these soldiers walked down the street, a group of what I can only consider to be (Muslim) extremists stood there in a huddle, shouting obscenities and calling them "murderers." That made my blood fucking BOIL. I wonder if those pieces of shit would be willing to stand at the funeral of a suicide bomber and shout "murderer?" Bet not. Is there even a way to solve this without violence? That is my biggest hope, but I am starting to believe it just isn't possible.
btnben's picture

And one that is not going to go away in a hurry I'm afraid. I understand where you're coming from Ironic, but I must wonder how much of what we hear is media hype. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, just wondering how bad it is? I live in the South West of England. Down here we probably have the lowest percentage of Muslims in the country. The majority are in the Midlands/North - Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds. I'm pointing this out because what I say would probably be different to what someone who lived elsewhere would say. I know a few (I assume) Muslims. I say "I assume" because I have never asked - the subject has never come up. They are no different to anyone else. Most are non-drinkers (that's where I get my assumption).. How much of the problem has been caused by stories about suicide bombers living normal lives unnoticed among the populace? I don't know. I just know that headlines like "Nothing Happened" don't sell many newspapers...lol. I wonder how much of it is when people get together in groups that some are just not happy being part of the norm and aspire to be better than everyone else. Usually called extremists. The problem is also that, when dealing with large numbers of people, the problems don't go away, they just get moved somewhere else. Just as the AA "one size fits all" solution doesn't work, there will not be any single solution to the problem of extremism - whichever direction they are being extreme in.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

biodoc's picture

Ben...I took a couple of weeks off the Orange Papers and this was one of the first posts I saw when I logged in. I haven't had a good belly laugh like this in years. Thanks!!!