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Thu, 09/12/2013 - 22:00
Since you hae that haloween costume on.Suggestion.
End with scary,feary boogie man ending.
For all of you in NA bee afraid,be very afraid.
you will die,end up in prison,dod rugs again and again be very afraid
the BOOGIE MAN IS WAITING FOR YOU-- point finger at audience
with voice off stage saying"Hey,that's not in the script"
Aww come on.they frightened me for oeer 20 years.Ccan't I scare them just this once?
boo boo boo.be very afraid.boo.Be afraid until the end of time.
Only death can free you from
ha ha being happy and having a life.
Fire them up.
Fri, 09/13/2013 - 23:24
On the topic of Noticing-Another-Costume and thinking about the Russell Brand video from another thread, when Brand couldn't be bothered to wear a jacket to a government hearing and had to show his hairy armpits instead:
It strikes me as sad that this guy, who clearly wants to speak out against na, as a knowledgeable but probably revered na member -- holy hell, dude has 20 years and I think I only saw one NA-only Old-Timer once in my day -- will be so targeted from people who know him that he wears that ridiculous get-up just to speak his truth to obscure his face.
I liked what he had to say and I look forward to watch the evolution of his videos.
Thu, 09/12/2013 - 23:59
He need s to show his face. I hope he gets to that place. I heard part of it an di like what he is saying. This is a big improvement but I still want to see him in the light. Thanks for posting. I'll watch the rest tomorrow.
Fri, 09/13/2013 - 11:12
I sometimes wish I had grown up atheist all during my lifetime. Religion, for me, has always been such a mindfuck. I'm glad it works for others. I know some Christians who have such a loving heart. Then there are others who say they are Christian but their actions speak otherwise through their masks of deception and hate. Along the many decades, I had been searching and searching for something/someone to believe in. After my father died of cancer (he was 44, I was 23), I was shockingly left with the unanswerable question of -- Where did he go? That was the start of my spirit quest.
God never made sense to me. Not the God I grew up with. If God existed, why did he allow men to molest me? Why did this all-loving God allow wars, rapes, riots, murders? I studied up on many beliefs, picking something from this one and something from that one, with a smidgen of another, and some that I just plain made up. When I first got into NA/AA I liked the part about 'meditation' -- My thought was, "I can do that!" After all, I was a kid in the 60's. :) But the AA's method of 'meditation and prayer' did not resemble anything that I thought it was for myself. My version wasn't quite right in their minds. Nothing I thought or felt was 'right' with them. I asked too many questions. I was skeptical of too many of their ways. Their AA-GroupOfDrunks following GoodOrderlyDirection never jived with me. I tried. I really tried. I do believe that was one of many reasons I had to leave.
The last thing I said (more like screamed at) to my then-boyfriend and my last sponsor was, "AA WILL NEVER WORK FOR ME BECAUSE I NO LONGER BELIEVE IN GOD!!"
If AAers knew what I really felt inside about my own spirituality/beliefs today, they would say I had a big ego that needed deflating - because since I left 12step, I meditate in my own way again. MY way. Not in any way that can be taught to me by anybody. It's self-taught. I've experienced some really insightful revelations about myself in my personal practice of meditation, and what I have discovered is that I AM the Creator of my own Life. If there's something more out there somewhere, cool. Whatever. Great. I don't care. I'm truly indifferent about it. I am the master creator in my life. What 'plugs me in' most to anything outside myself are: my daughter, my grandson, nature, good friends and loved ones who are real, and my gardens.
I liked so much of this Deprogramming video. One thing of many truths I heard was -- Stay away from toxic people. I have been. What a freedom. It makes life so much more enjoyable.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*Hi. I'm Rainbow, and I'm a belligerent savage whose HP is Rudolph.
Fri, 09/13/2013 - 11:59
His thoughts and ideas were excellent, but the presentation, particularly his attire, took away from the seriousness of his discussion. Maybe he was trying to represent the "spookiness" of these groups presentations, whatever, I thought it took away from the topic.