Alabama, also known as the "Yellowhammer State;" Heart of Dixie" or the "Cotton State" has a very big problem with Crystal Meth. A new proposed "Long's Bill" would make it mandatory that people will loose their children if they have been "treated" twice (2) in a five (5) year period. Currently the Bill includes both Alcohol and Drugs, but they are working on ways to eliminate Alcohol from the Bill. This raises many issues, especially with people who are considered "functional addicts" or if only one of the parents are sent to "treatment." It should also be remembered that a "relapse" is defined as putting any type of drug in your system and it is detected. One beer or a glass of wine could take your kids away.
The Long's Bill, originally meant to target the growing Crystal Meth problem and child abuse as it stands would also target Alcoholics and include a stipulation that Alcoholics Anonymous and/or Narcotics Anonymous meetings be attended. The entire "Long's Bill" can be downloaded at http://media.al.com/breaking/other/HB236-int.pdf . While lawmakers are attempting to drop the Alcohol provision, it still hasn't. This means that if a husband or wife gets 2 DUI's or an alcohol related incident in 5 years and they relapse, their children could be taken from the family home if I am not mistaken. When you get a DUI or alcohol related incident, you are usually sent to some form of "treatment." It also is not clear if people who have already been "treated" twice in a 5 year period would be exempt. This is a very dangerous slippery slope that could extend to other States. Opponents of the Bill claim it will make people afraid to seek treatment and hold child custody over their heads.
Read the entire Story "If twice treated for addiction, relapse could cost parents custody" by Challen Stephen February 27, 2013 at http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/02/if_twice_treated_for_addiction.html
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JR Harris
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 14:25
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Alabama Bill HB236 148204-1 Includes AA as a Treatment!!!!
1 HB236
2 148204-1
3 By Representatives Long, Baughn and Gaston
4 RFD: Children and Senior Advocacy
148204-1:n:02/06/2013:JMH/mfc LRS2013-618
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
seagal007
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 14:39
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Scary
scary
Understanding and Empowerment=Freedom
DeConstructor
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 16:47
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This may be a good thing
Because it may draw national attention to the disastrous success rates and the human and financial cost of XA scams posing as legit medical care.
Not Born Yesterday
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 17:15
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Consequences of Relapse
Personally, I don't think that any child should have to deal with a parent(s) who is not fully living in reality; this is why the Child Protective Services agencies in each state carefully monitor homes in which child abuse has been reported. Active substance abuse amongst adults is considered a form of child-abuse. That is to say, the adult has reacted to the substance in such a way that it impairs his/her ability to think and act rationally, when there is a dependent minor on the premises. However, to laud AA as the exclusive remedy for alcohol abuse and dependency, with a legal mandate that ties such a belief to a state/federally funded agency is ethically wrong. Such a practice is the furthest thing imaginable from the AA Traditions-based concepts of AA non-affiliation and non-profit status. Not to mention the public promotion restrictions that AA strongly suggests.
live_free_or_die
Thu, 02/28/2013 - 12:00
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Reasons for Relapse
Doesn't AA cause relapses?
In addition, the adult that attends AA regularly has lost all sense of reality. Also lost to the AA member is the ability to think & act rationally.
Allowing a child to continue to live in the same household of a regular, big book carrying AA member is a form of child abuse as well.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
JR Harris
Thu, 02/28/2013 - 12:14
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The way this Bill is written, if you went to AA 3 years ago
The way this Bill is written, if you went to AA 3 years ago and stopped and then admit it, then get forced to go into "treatment" for a DUI or something you have been to 2 "treatments" within 5 years. Once your out of "treatment" for the second time and you get popped again or test positive, they can take your kids. I hope some Senator, Judge, Mayor, High School Principal, etc.... get caught on this Bill.
This is the copy of the proposed Bill again-
http://media.al.com/breaking/other/HB236-int.pdf
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
live_free_or_die
Thu, 02/28/2013 - 12:11
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Reasons for Relapse
Doesn't AA cause relapses?
In addition, the adult that attends AA regularly has lost all sense of reality. Also lost to the AA member is the ability to think & act rationally.
Allowing a child to continue to live in the same household of a regular, big book carrying AA member is a form of child abuse as well.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
Ink
Thu, 02/28/2013 - 10:28
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Forget about the science of the substances. Go join a group where you can self depreciate yourself for forgiveness. Forever
massive
Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:32
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Disgusting! Get the surviving
Disgusting! Get the surviving straight on this one!!! Hilter BS is coming ......The government that pushes AA is a sick sick place. Where are their 1st Amendment rights.
Massive