Alabama introduces "Long's Bill" that would take your kids away if you have been treated 2 times in 5 years and relapse - Feb 2013

Alabama, also known as the "Yellowhammer State;" Heart of Dixie" or the "Cotton State" has a very big problem with Crystal Meth. A new proposed "Long's Bill" would make it mandatory that people will loose their children if they have been "treated" twice (2) in a five (5) year period. Currently the Bill includes both Alcohol and Drugs, but they are working on ways to eliminate Alcohol from the Bill. This raises many issues, especially with people who are considered "functional addicts" or if only one of the parents are sent to "treatment." It should also be remembered that a "relapse" is defined as putting any type of drug in your system and it is detected. One beer or a glass of wine could take your kids away.

The Long's Bill, originally meant to target the growing Crystal Meth problem and child abuse as it stands would also target Alcoholics and include a stipulation that Alcoholics Anonymous and/or Narcotics Anonymous meetings be attended. The entire "Long's Bill" can be downloaded at http://media.al.com/breaking/other/HB236-int.pdf . While lawmakers are attempting to drop the Alcohol provision, it still hasn't. This means that if a husband or wife gets 2 DUI's or an alcohol related incident in 5 years and they relapse, their children could be taken from the family home if I am not mistaken. When you get a DUI or alcohol related incident, you are usually sent to some form of "treatment." It also is not clear if people who have already been "treated" twice in a 5 year period would be exempt. This is a very dangerous slippery slope that could extend to other States. Opponents of the Bill claim it will make people afraid to seek treatment and hold child custody over their heads.

Read the entire Story "If twice treated for addiction, relapse could cost parents custody" by Challen Stephen February 27, 2013 at http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/02/if_twice_treated_for_addiction.html

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JR Harris's picture

1 HB236
2 148204-1
3 By Representatives Long, Baughn and Gaston
4 RFD: Children and Senior Advocacy
148204-1:n:02/06/2013:JMH/mfc LRS2013-618

(Page 3)
22 DRUG REHABILITATION PROGRAM. Any program which
23 utilizes addiction therapy, counseling, physical confinement,
24 detoxification services, group therapy, or other organized
25 services to cure persons of addiction to drugs or alcohol, or
26 both. This definition specifically includes, but is not
27 limited to, a family treatment drug court program, another
(Page 4)
1 drug court program, Alcoholics Anonymous, or any other
2 program, whether administered by a hospital, private health
3 care facility, government agency, church, religious
4 organization, or private entity or corporation.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

scary

Understanding and Empowerment=Freedom

DeConstructor's picture

Because it may draw national attention to the disastrous success rates and the human and financial cost of XA scams posing as legit medical care.

Personally, I don't think that any child should have to deal with a parent(s) who is not fully living in reality; this is why the Child Protective Services agencies in each state carefully monitor homes in which child abuse has been reported. Active substance abuse amongst adults is considered a form of child-abuse. That is to say, the adult has reacted to the substance in such a way that it impairs his/her ability to think and act rationally, when there is a dependent minor on the premises. However, to laud AA as the exclusive remedy for alcohol abuse and dependency, with a legal mandate that ties such a belief to a state/federally funded agency is ethically wrong. Such a practice is the furthest thing imaginable from the AA Traditions-based concepts of AA non-affiliation and non-profit status. Not to mention the public promotion restrictions that AA strongly suggests.

live_free_or_die's picture

Doesn't AA cause relapses?

In addition, the adult that attends AA regularly has lost all sense of reality. Also lost to the AA member is the ability to think & act rationally.

Allowing a child to continue to live in the same household of a regular, big book carrying AA member is a form of child abuse as well.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

JR Harris's picture

The way this Bill is written, if you went to AA 3 years ago and stopped and then admit it, then get forced to go into "treatment" for a DUI or something you have been to 2 "treatments" within 5 years. Once your out of "treatment" for the second time and you get popped again or test positive, they can take your kids. I hope some Senator, Judge, Mayor, High School Principal, etc.... get caught on this Bill.

This is the copy of the proposed Bill again-
http://media.al.com/breaking/other/HB236-int.pdf

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

live_free_or_die's picture

Doesn't AA cause relapses?

In addition, the adult that attends AA regularly has lost all sense of reality. Also lost to the AA member is the ability to think & act rationally.

Allowing a child to continue to live in the same household of a regular, big book carrying AA member is a form of child abuse as well.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

Forget about the science of the substances. Go join a group where you can self depreciate yourself for forgiveness. Forever

massive's picture

Disgusting! Get the surviving straight on this one!!! Hilter BS is coming ......The government that pushes AA is a sick sick place. Where are their 1st Amendment rights.

Massive