LOL:
Sanders v. ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICES, INC., Cal: Court of Appeal, 4th Appellate Dist., 1st Div. 2007
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=10084351797093460197&q=%22an...
Since his alleged compensatory damages are only $21.50, it is indeed unfortunate that none of the named defendants resolved this matter informally to avoid or truncate this lawsuit. Surely, that would have been preferable to the use of judicial resources and legal fees incurred by all defendants.
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Pennywise
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 12:14
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Anyway, here is the follow-up
Anyway, here is the follow-up case opinion:
Sanders v. NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICES, INC., Cal: Court of Appeal, 4th Appellate Dist., 1st Div. 2009
http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12612546566525243861&q=%22an...
Facts:
Holding:
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
JR Harris
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 12:49
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"Narcotics Anonymous" in 118 countries around the world
"Narcotics Anonymous" in 118 countries around the world says it all. This case was in US judiciary jurisdiction and there are 117 other countries with different laws still suffering from the cults that Bill Wilson built to fund his adulterous lifestyle and the very well paid "special workers" that are identified in Tradition 8, "Alcoholics Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our service centers may employ special workers." Like Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc. (AAWS) did with the Mexican and German lawsuits, you have to think global laws and like AAWS use the "duty of care" against them to your advantage....
Game on, AAWS is playing global laws, turn it against them and use different laws in different countries against them. It is only fair.
For more information on how AAWS uses the laws of different countries against its fellowship to control them, see "The Saddest Day In A.A. History" http://alcoholism.about.com/library/blmitch12.htm
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Pennywise
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 13:04
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I have no clue how this case
I have no clue how this case would have come out in another country. What surprises me (and the court) is that AAWS and NAWS probably spent more than $1000 each to fight a case over $21.50. Why would they do that? The only rational reason I can think of for them to make such expenditures is to prevent the establishment of some precedent that could be used against them later down the road (or to set some precedent that could be used in their favor in future actions).
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
Orange
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 14:42
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Bored doing life
The litigant was doing life without parole. And he sued for $21.50 actual damages and $50,000 in punitive damages. I'm sure that provided a welcome respite from the boredom. I cannot explain how A.A. could be so stupid as to not just give the guy the $21.50 and settle out of court. Some people must really like paying lawyers' bills.
Pennywise
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 15:00
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See my post above for why
See my post above for why AAWS/NAWS might do this. Mainly, NAWS now has at least one appellate opinion holding that it is a separate entity from local groups. It also had a good "trial run" about how to proceed in future lawsuits for acts committed by local groups.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
Pennywise
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 15:14
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To be sure, if that was
To be sure, if that was indeed their thought process, they appear to be playing the game at a pretty high level.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
patti
Sat, 02/09/2013 - 15:38
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Cause AA is never & can't
Cause AA is never & can't ever be WRONG! Narcissist's are never wrong! The guru/AA is always right, even when they are wrong! Lol. Boneheads.
patti