Rarely have we seen a “alcoholic’ person fail….

Submitted by Soberman on Mon, 01/28/2013 - 09:18

I made my first “AA” meeting on Feb 22, 1970.
On Feb 22, 2013 I will have been sober 42 year.
I am now 80 years old.

Over the past 42 years I have made over 10,000 AA meetings.

I became a “Big Bill”.
I stopped going about 10 years ago.

This is a fact.
I have no way of proving the following statement.

Going to over 40 different meeting within 50 miles of my home in Michigan and asking If any member started AA after Feb 22, 1970 and stayed sober?
I only found 2.

I sponsored one of them.
Sober-man
Don’t drink, do as you please?

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dave

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 13:51

I am glad you are still sober.

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Mon, 01/28/2013 - 21:31

@ Soberman, Don't you wanna a drink? Some wine and cheese? A beer? WHat the big deal of the abstinence for 42 years...

When I achieved 20 years sober I was excited. But to be honest at 25 years sober I felt the weight of the years. Then at 30 years my hubby gave me a big party. I kept saying it doesnt matter. Its no big deal... in fact I hate you making a big deal about it.

The years weighed too heavy . I didnt want a drink but I was bored with the whole " I have so many years and such " and quite frankly ... I feel it s just a big ego trip, fake badge to throw around that really ...if the rest of your life is shit ....who really cares.

Millions of Muslim NEVER drink a drop ever and they don't ask for cakes .....

Then 35 sober years came....I didn t care. I didnt want a big party. All of AA and its Bullshit made me see it for the lies and scumbag AA is. Time means nothing to me. Its all bullshit. Your time soberman ...go ahead get excited about it..., no offense to you personally....but honestly. Im not impressed with any of it.

What kind of man are you? Are you kind? Do you smile?

Are you racist? Are you generous? Are you fun to be with? This is what is way more important to me especially after the way I saw AA members acting in Hollywood. Good GOD!!! What a bunch of assholes.

That's way more important to me . I d rather sit with a kind person who is nice and funny who drinks beverages with alcohol in them , then the assholes with a gazillion years in AA who sit with their arrogance know it all grumpy faces and sour mouths spewing AA rhetoric one line after another!

Have a nice day....

Massive

dave

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 21:31

I believe aa helps me and I will say it is easier now to see what is important about aa and what is not.

Soberman

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:17

I have been married to the same woman for over 52 years.
Soberman
Don't drink Massive, do as you please.

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:13

:)

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:14

:) Dave

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:34

:) Dave

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:14

:) Dave

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:15

:) Dave No one should ever go to AA under21. My opinion. Nice that you agree abut the time. You see some of the truth about AA...

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massive

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 13:14

:) Dave

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SimonTemplar

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:28

I need to look in the mirror every day.I want to remeber what yu just said.
Can I laugh.Am i happy with my life,with being alive.
What kind of person am I?CAn I see how the little things are important as they will add up?
These 7 years,Ihave tried to be generous,given away 30% of what i have,but still attached to
what I get back.I still livein prison /alone afraid of people.So much that i still need to cahnge.
great respect that you walked away from false respect.Like working ajob that pays big,but sucks.
I will try to keep in my head the best question that you asked-AM I KIND???
Try to relight the pilot light on my sense of humour.
And yes -what does xxy years of dry sobriety mean???? If there is still hate and fear??
Will take time to look in the mirror more often thank you Massive for the reminder of what is
important.
"better to light one candle,than to curse the darkness!"

I SPY

SimonTemplar

Mon, 01/28/2013 - 22:50

Wow.you really were cheated out of so much of your life.Now you are on the down side,we all come to death one day.You tried to live your life by those 12 steps.but saw for yourself what another here in thailand said to me.He had been away from aa for over 20 years.He brought the Bb and living Sober with him and wanted to help.Aa had just started in chiangrai and he wanted to help.
I told him-20 years and not one thing has changed.Pattaya Beach is where AA has its conventions.Living in Thailand-ie the Land of Smiles he knew what that meant.The paedophiles and whoremongers were in control. All because of one stinking lousy rotten apple.One crooked cop who sold real ID's for underage children to wrok as pro's.
You are still alive.there is still time for your own faith in God,your own faith in life to become real.
You can leave this world,this life with that one gift that a human can keep.You gave me a gift please accept my gift.Check out WOPG.org.look at some dvds and give it a thought.Before you go see what is and has been inside of your heart all of these years.It's free.No money [well the students push for cash,not Prem, but his students ,freaking indiots] You may become angrier but I think you will be pleasantly suprised.with what you will see for yourown self of your own self.
A lit candle can light others.

I SPY

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Orange

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:11

Congratulations on taking care of your health for 40 years. It does feel better than being sick all of the time, doesn't it?

Only 2 other oldtimers? Alas. So it goes.

Soberman

Tue, 01/29/2013 - 16:21

You have a real good thing going here.
Sobeman

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Tue, 01/29/2013 - 23:36

orange- my post came up 6 times ...some error here..can you please delete them. thank you.

Massive