This post is from the Yahoo group of AA GSO Watch site. Orange gets an honorable mention. : )
We must not confuse facts with the interpretation of facts. As far as the Orange Papers are concerned from what I have read is has a lot of facts and it is obvious that a lot of research was done. What I disagree with him about in many areas is his opinion and interpretation of what the facts represent. I still appreciate his hard work and dedication to what he believes. I don’t see the different interpretations as a major problem between the Orange Papers and myself. I see the denial and blind acceptance of what AA members are told by their Trusted Servants (?) as a much bigger problem to AA. Why do the AA members blindly believe the spin from the New York Headquarters without demanding facts and/or accountability?
One such example is something I was involved with on another AA website. In reference to the lawsuits in Germany this AA member, who boasts of his friends in the AA corporate offices in NY, made a statement that the AA member sued in Germany was a criminal and AAWS had the right to sue him. I posted the court papers of the criminal hearings in which the German judge (the equivalent of our Attorney Generals Office) refused to prosecute stating that no crime has been committed. He changed topics not wanting to address the challenge to his lack of knowledge or offer any amends to his character assassination of a good AA member. I kept posting factual documents on his other topic spins until eventually he left the site.
The fact that the Orange Papers appeared at the end implies endorsement of the message in which I absolutely agree and that surprised me.
Another example is our friend Bill here who I consider a friend although we disagree about many issues. But whether or not he knew people he disagreed with he did his job at the Conference and brought to the fellowship a lot of information concerning the issues around the General Manager’s job which most Delegates did not do. He opposed the secret discussions of the topic and made an attempt to inform the AA fellowship. For his service I commend him.
I want to commend the creators of this video who followed our principles much better that our NY Headquarters has with their actions. I am also grateful this is on a public site and it is coming out into the light of day.
“To make our legal position secure, it would have been necessary to incorporate our whole Fellowship, and no one wished to see our spiritual way of life incorporated. It seemed certain that we could confidently trust A.A. opinion, public opinion, and God Himself to take care of Alcoholics Anonymous in this respect.” (Warranty 5, AA Service Manual)
The comments following this post on the Yahoo site are interesting.