The Mental Condition of Steppers

Michael Lemanski observed:

In AA, the bald assumption is that following "the AA way of life" will inevitably "restore [alcoholics] to sanity."
But this is not necessarily true. In a research report called The Abstinent Alcoholic, researchers Donald Gerard, Gerhart Saenger, and Renee Wile analyzed the abstinent population. The study included clients who had managed to achieve sobriety for up to nine years. On the basis of their findings and case studies, they divided the abstinent former alcoholics into four classifications:

Overtly Disturbed (54% of the total)
Inconspicuously Inadequate Personalities (24%)
Alcoholics Anonymous Successes (12%)
Independent Successes (10%)
The authors describe these groups as follows:

1. Overtly Disturbed ... These ex-patients suffer with tension to a degree which concerns them; and/or they are angry, dissatisfied, or are resentful., projecting aggressive attitudes or ideas into their environment; and/or they are driven by anxiety so that they are restless, unable to relax, seeking to distract or sedate themselves from their conflicts by spending inordinate amounts of time at work or social activities of a community nature; and/or they are overtly psychiatrically ill, displaying disturbances of mood, thought, and behavior to a psychotic degree.

2. Inconspicuously Inadequate Personalities consist of those ex-patients whose total functioning is characterized by meagerness of their involvement in life and living.... There is nothing grossly "wrong" in their lives. They are not presently likely to go to jail or to a mental hospital, nor are they very troubled. On the other hand, there is no positive sense of excitement, purpose, or interest in life. ...

3. AA Successes... It is evident that they are as dependent on AA as they were before on alcohol. They are very active in AA. Some of them spend all or practically all of their free time at AA or in 12-Step work. Conversely, they have little or no social life apart from AA....

4. Independent Successes... These ex-patients have achieved a state of self-respecting independence, of personal growth, and self-realization. They differ from the first subgroup in that they do not appear disturbed...; they differ from the second subgroup in that they are more alive and interesting as human beings...; and they differ from the third subgroup in that their efforts at self-realization are independent rather than institutionally supported....25

During my time active within the cult, I have not witnessed anything that contradicts these findings.
(Taken from the Orange Papers Cult Test #42: Disturbed Members, Mentally Ill Followers)

Comments

Do you have the entire study? The descriptions of groups 2,3 and 4 seem to be cut short.

i'd rate myself...as mostly #4 with a probability of light #1 or #2 in the early afternoon or evening. and zero chance of #3 all day long.

edit (why is my post not under the main comment? i replied there?)

If I could moderate, I'd do it alot!

El Oso's picture

Seems pretty meaningless without any background figures. The disturbed 54% - How many AA abstinent and how many independent abstinent.

And this survey (1962) is not that much more recent than the book "Alcoholics Anonymous"

"And if somebody told you God is on your side. I was told the very same thing So you know somebody lied." [Big Wind - Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee]

El Oso

YuppieMonkey's picture

Since it says "In AA, the bald assumption is that following "the AA way of life" will inevitably "restore [alcoholics] to sanity." I am assuming they were all treated with 12 step religion.

That it was done in 1962 is even better, since steppers are constantly referring to the 'Golden Age' of AA before the purity of the message was diluted by contemporary treatment methods.

Regardless, I posted this because it relates to my personal experience within the recovery community. The numbers look pretty good. But that is because these were people after 9 years of recovery.
I found that people with 20 to 30 years recovery were a much higher percentage of #2 and #3. They really just reach a point where they figure out the game within the recovery community and it pretty much becomes the sum of their existence.

"You'll pay to know what you really think". - J.R. Bob Dobbs

there is a lot of trauma one experiences just sitting and listening in aa meetings for 30 years and what i thought i saw in reaction to it was dysfuncyional family role playing (hero, scapegoat, lost child, clown, mascot ) etc with out any tools or guidance to deal with it except aa's - rationalizing - pray it away - emotional amputations - prescribed by the literature. very little feelings process. because pg 90 in the 12& 12 forbids upset emotion as a character flaw. its an emotional illness incubator. a lot of boiled eggs in there. and inauthentic play actors. yuck.

If I could moderate, I'd do it alot!

El Oso's picture

Read it again and realised the wording "analyzed the abstinent population" took me off in the wrong direction. Makes a lot more sense now !

"And if somebody told you God is on your side. I was told the very same thing So you know somebody lied." [Big Wind - Sonny Terry and Brownie McGhee]

El Oso

Unemployed & unemployable need more be said.

Brett

Mrpatientcare's picture

I remember that during my indoctrination a big part of the mythos was that sober alcoholics who "worked a program" were better adjusted than the average person. I now see that this idea is filled with logical fallacy. At the time in the insular state of, Going to meetings and doing service, I believed it was true. I did meet some incredible folks there (but I meet the everywhere) In other settings these incredible people never tell me to; "Sit down, shut-up, take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth!!"