whats happend to?

Soberman, clara, mary davis, billybob ect anybody got any ideas where are they now ?

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live_free_or_die's picture

Good to hear from ya!

soberman comes down off the mountain at times, CLar got herself banned, then came back as frybreadsam but got banned. CLar can be found around the internet - I hear she is posting over on the craigslist recovery site.

mary davis becket also got banned ain't heard from her lately though she has tried to sign up on the Expose AA site like 10 times. : )

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I had a heart attack on March 11 last year.
Doing ok now.
Turned 80 years in october of last year.
I stoped going to AA over 10 years ago.
Most every one I once knew in AA are dead or dead drunk.
On Feb 22 of this year, I will have been clean of drinking and smoking for 44 years.
I was a Big Bill a long time in AA.
I have been working on an article I call " Big Bills of AA in a Cave"
I think it is real good.
Its too long to post, so I am breaking it up in to many small parts.
I can't believe that I sat in over 10,000 AA meeting.
Big Bill in a cave defines my stay in AA.
Soberman

Pennywise's picture

Out of curiosity, will your article be take on Socrates' Allegory of the Cave as applied to steppers?

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

live_free_or_die's picture

I forgot to mention billybuddy - I have not seen him here on the OPF in a month or so. Last couple of times I saw him logged in but he never posted.

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http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
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Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

live_free_or_die's picture

Glad you got out of the AA Cave and up on the mountain Soberman, I am glad to hear you are doing good after the heart attack.

Your article sounds like it will be interesting, to say the least. I look forward to reading it!

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http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

NoAAUK's picture

Clara came across to me as just a stepper cult promoter who loves the cult. I do however sympathise with her feelings towards her inoccent dog.

Becket/lonestar I can't work out and although exetremly anti stepper cult myself, I find myself agreeing with much of beckets other beliefs.

To be honest I miss them both, dare I say it, especially becket/lonestar.

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

causeandeffect's picture

However, I do feel sorry for her dog. Apparently she took her dog to a vet for livestock rather than pets, which is why the dog didn't get proper treatment in time. Clara was the most contemptible, passive aggressive liar I have ever encountered. Passive aggressiveness is a particularly crazy making style of abuse and not everyone recognizes this. Her posts were like Chinese water torture. Her biggest claim to fame here was when she effectively talked someone out of reporting a child molester just because that child molester was a stepper. Absolutely detestable. She got her karma, however, when a child she was close to drowned in a pool at a daycare. Apparently she didn't report that danger to authorities or even warn the mother of the child and came here begging sympathy for her loss. Even becket and danny bennison didn't offer their condolences.

She has now stalked a member of this forum to another pro-stepper forum. (She already had a reputation for being a cyberstalker.) She is getting her ass handed to her, even by those who have the goofy idea that "love and tolerance" of anybody and everybody is their code. She is correctly being recognized for her passive aggressiveness, obsessiveness, deliberate obtuseness, unteachableness and pathological lying. She has been repeatedly asked to stop it there, just as she was here. But mostly she's being ignored. She can no longer claim that people don't like her only due to a difference of opinion since she is now being rejected by her own kind, and since Dave is getting along just fine here. It's her sucky ass personality and perpetual lying that elicits contempt from people, not her opinions. I hope we never have the misfortune of seeing her on this forum again.

Becket was a balls-to-the-wall flying abusive bitch. But at least she was honest. Well, she was lying to herself in a big way, but could at least sometimes recognize some of the things we talk about here were true. But she was pretty intelligent. While I don't miss her, she was far more tolerable, despite her overt abuse, than clara.

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YuppieMonkey's picture

"She got her karma, however, when a child she was close to drowned in a pool at a daycare."

The Orange Forum just hit a new low.

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causeandeffect's picture

Sorry yuppie, if you don't like it, but she protected a serial child molester from being reported. That was a new low for the OPF. Do you really believe that child molester quit molesting just because she worked the steps? And she didn't report the unsafe condition at the daycare either. I believe in karma, I've seen it in action, but at least I didn't mention it at the time.

It seems to me it was your poll that brought the OPF to a new low on our side. Have you seen billy since then? I haven't.

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YuppieMonkey's picture

The Billybudd suicide poll was a cheap shot, but was also meant to be completely tongue in cheek.
It was never meant to be taken seriously. Seeing how it was being taken the wrong way, I took the post down.
I have no hard feelings, nor do not wish any harm to any of our trolls here on the forum and hope they are all doing well. I darn sure am not gloating that a child Clara loved had drowned, nor would I ever had made fun of Billybudd if it was known that he actually had really committed suicide.

If you believe my post is why Billybutt hasn't been back, then you probably believe the 12 steps keep people sober also.

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causeandeffect's picture

Meh, not caring too much what you think, yuppie. However, if you think anything bad happened to clara as a result of me wishing such things on her (which I don't) then you are surely engaging in magical thinking even beyond that of AA. It's our responsibility as adults to care for the safety and well-being of children and if someone is molesting them, they should be reported. clara talked someone out of doing that, and that is utterly despicable and earns my deepest contempt.

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YuppieMonkey's picture

gloat [ glōt ]

1. To be smugly happy: to feel or express smug self-satisfaction about something such as an achievement, a possession, or somebody else's misfortune.

Anyways, keep an eye on Clara for us on those other sites.
We appreciate it.

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