Why should parents be careful about letting their teens associate with AA members from the Santa Clarita Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous?

The Santa Clarita Valley (SVC) Central Office of Alcoholics Anonymous is located at 26951 Ruether Ave., Suite B-6, Santa Clarita, CA 91351 and acts as the central focal point of Alcoholics Anonymous claiming no control over the events they coordinate, promote and advertise in that area of Los Angeles County (http://www.aascv.org/). Alcoholics Anonymous actively recruits from jails and prison for members under their "Correction Committees", from mental institutions under their "Hospital & Institution" (H&I) committees and from the probation, parole and court systems under their "Cooperation with the Professional Community" (CPC) committees. The members of AA will tell you that the majority of the members do not come from these outlets and through the last survey they published, which only polled around 7,000 members, only 11% of the members came from these outlets. Depending upon outside sources this number is actually between 45-55%.

Why should this be important information for parents to know if they allow their children to go to AA meetings, Al-Anon or Alateen in Santa Clarita Valley (SVC)? The simple reason is because this particular Intergroup co-mingles Alcoholics Anonymous, Al-Anon and Alateen members and if a teen is attacked physically, financially or sexually they will be made to blame for the attack. Use Google and find the physical, financial or sexual attacks in Alcoholics Anonymous and you will find that the Victim is almost always made to be the reason for the attack and the AA Intergroup or group will be called blameless and they will blame your teen. You and your teen will be told repeatedly that your teen was at fault and that you can't hold the people holding the event responsible for what happened. Here is an example that happens every year that co-mingles all three groups that happened this year, luckily without any incidents that are known and reported.

Santa Clarita Valley Alcoholics Anonymous Convention - Annual Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) event with Al-Anon & Alateen participation. 9th Annual. October 19, 20, & 21, 2012. Hyatt Valencia & Santa Clarita Conference Center. 24500 Town Center Drive. Santa Clarita, Los Angeles County, California.

Website: http://www.scvaaconvention.org/

Why is co-mingling of these groups dangerous? Here are the requirements for Sponsorship in Alateen:

Sponsor Requirements
Sponsors must:
1. Be Al-Anon members
2. Be 21 years old
3. Have two years in Al-Anon (in addition to time in Alateen)
4. Not have been convicted of a felony
5. Not have been charged with child abuse or similar
6. Not have demonstrated emotional problems that could result in harm to a teen
7. Not be under investigation by child welfare or similar agency

Source: http://www.ncwsa.org/wp-content/library/pages/alateen/Alateen%20Requirem...

Very few of the AA members that are co-mingling with the Al-Anon and Alateen members would pass these requirements.

As proof that your teen will be blamed as the victim, look at the Karla Brada case that resides in the same area and Alcoholics Anonymous Intergroup. While Karla was an adult, the results will be the same for your teen.... Please protect your children from this abuse, don't let AA blame your teen if they are a victim in the Santa Clarita Intergroup in Los Angeles County, California like what is happening to Karla Brada.

Karla Brada, 31 [Updated]

Died Sept. 1, 2011

Karla Brada, a 31-year-old white woman, died Thursday, Sept. 1, in the 20700 block of Plum Canyon Road in Santa Clarita, according to Los Angeles County coroner's records.

Brada's boyfriend said he found her unresponsive Thursday morning, according to a Sheriff's Department news release. The boyfriend contacted authorities, who arrived and pronounced the woman dead.

Coroner's records show Brada had some trauma to her body, but a final cause of death has been deferred pending additional laboratory tests.

Sheriff's homicide Det. Ray Lugo, who is handling the case, said Brada's boyfriend is a suspect in the death. He was arrested but had to be released while detectives gather more evidence for the homicide investigation, Lugo said.

[Update Jan. 12, 2012: Coroner's officials later determined that Brada died from asphyxia and her death was deemed a homicide.]

[Update Jan. 26, 2012: Brada’s boyfriend, Eric Allen Earle, a 40-year-old white man, was arrested Wednesday in connection with the victim’s death, Det. Lugo said.

Earle was apprehended in Northridge by the U.S. Marshal Pacific Southwest Regional Fugitive Task Force. He is currently being held in lieu of $1 million bail at the inmate reception center in downtown.

Lugo said Earle will be charged with one count of murder.

According to investigators, Earle has a history of domestic violence against women. In August 2011, he was arrested for allegedly assaulting Brada, however she decided to not move forward with the case and authorities were unable to prosecute him.

Lugo said Earle and Brada had been dating for two months before she was killed. At the time of the incident, they were living together, he said.

In a statement sent to the Times, Brada’s mother said about the arrest, “This is a big relief for not only Karla's family, but several other families who have felt threatened by Eric's release since he has a long history of domestic violence against other women. Unfortunately, we did not learn about his history of domestic violence until Karla's death. It is too late for Karla and her family, but we hope putting him away for good will save another family from this tragedy and pain.”

Anyone with additional information about the death of Karla Brada is asked to contact Det. Lugo at (323) 890-5500. Those wishing to remain anonymous can call Crime Stoppers at (800) 222-8477.]

Follow the Homicide Report on Twitter @latimeshomicide.

Updated: Jan. 26, 2012 at 2:58 p.m.

Source: http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/post/karla-brada/

Again, use Google and find the comments people are saying about this death and read how the AA members are blaming the victim. It is something that could happen to your teen if you let them anywhere near Alcoholics Anonymous in Los Angeles County and especially the Santa Clarita Intergroup.

Comments

JR Harris's picture

To see a very good example of AA members blaming the victim Karla Brada just like what will happen to your teen if they are attacked in AA in Los Angeles County, see -

How many ways can you blame the victim of a violent assault or murder?
http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/3061

Please keep your children away from this group, they will go to any means to blame them for everything.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

massive's picture

JRH- Great reporting. Karla's mom told me she saw kids who were 13 years old in meetings in santa clarita. I think it should be illegal to be there under 18 years of age.

Sex offenders and pedophiles together. GTFO.....just ask Keeper about her son ....who was molested, raped and murdered by his AA sponsor . There was a ring of 21 men caught by the Federal Marshall s and the FBI who were specifically targeting AA meetings and AA rehabs for young male teens. It took four years to catch them, but they did.

The story is deep, never ending and it will be exposed this new year 2013!!!!

Interesting number 13...

13 step

AA is a very dangerous predatory religious antiquated cult. Im glad I got out.

Massive

JR Harris's picture

Very Interesting, the SANTA CLARITA VALLEY CENTRAL OFFICE OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS just recently applied for IRS non-profit Tax Status, yet just had the 9th Santa Clarita Valley Alcoholics Anonymous Convention - Annual Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) event with Al-Anon & Alateen participation on October 19, 20, & 21, 2012?????

SANTA CLARITA VALLEY CENTRAL OFFICE OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS
26951 RUETHER AVE STE B6
SANTA CLARITA, CA 91351-2477
EIN: 270504934
Ruling Date: 03/2012
NTEE: F22 - SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT
http://www.eri-nonprofit-salaries.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Summary&E...

So the Santa Clarita Intergroup does "SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT?"

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

massive's picture

JR ...interesting. It says its not affiliated with any National Corp etc. WHat a lie. Of course it is connected to NY General Service Office.

Massive

I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to, but intergroups and central offices are autonomous and not part of the general service structure. They are part of and serve aa though. If I wanted to I could become an intergroup and the GSO staff would have to put me (my intergroup) in the national directory. In the US it has been my experience that some intergroups and general service areas don't even get along well.

JR Harris's picture

So if a teen is assaulted in the AA Santa Clarita Intergroup during a meeting or event that they planned, coordinated, promoted and advertised by an AA member then the Integroup is not responsible? Sorry that is not correct, teenagers are treated differently and if the Intergroup invited them to an event and did not provide adequate protect for the teens they can be sued and shut down. Just like a daycare can.

It's a good thing that pedophiles don't register with AA and open up their own Intergroup and have it protected by this fake made up protection that being a member of Alcoholics Anonymous seems to have.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

JR Harris's picture

SCV INTERGROUP TREASURY REPORTS

Starting in January 2011 all the Treasury Reports for the Santa Clarita Valley Central Office will be made available here for anyone to view.
2006 Treasury Report
2007 Treasury Report
2008 Treasury Report
2009 Treasury Report
2010 Treasury Report
July 2011 Treasury report (YTD)
August 2011 Treasury report (YTD)

Source: http://www.aascv.org/index.php/intergroup/treasury-reports

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

live_free_or_die's picture

SANTA CLARITA VALLEY CENTRAL OFFICE OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS

Entity Number:

C3215584

Date Filed:

06/22/2009

Status:

ACTIVE

Jurisdiction:

CALIFORNIA

Entity Address:

26951 RUETHER AVENUE, SUITE B6

Entity City, State, Zip:

SANTA CLARITA CA 91351

Agent for Service of Process:

HEIDI TULTS

Agent Address:

29638 GRANDIFLORAS ROAD

Agent City, State, Zip:

SANTA CLARITA CA 91387

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

live_free_or_die's picture

Basic Organization Information

SANTA CLARITA VALLEY CENTRAL OFFICE OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS
Physical Address: 26951 Ruether Ave Ste B6

Santa Clarita, CA 91351 EIN: 27-0504934
NTEE Category: F Mental Health, Crisis Intervention F22 (Alcohol, Drug Abuse (Treatment Only))
Year Founded: 2012
Ruling Year: 2012

http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/27-0504934/santa-clarita-valley-c...

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

"substance abuse treatment"? Maybe education? You tell me.

JR Harris's picture

Well a fellowship of people recruited from jails, prisons, probation, parole and court systems for the purpose of hiding anonymously in church basements where they can do any scams, violent assaults, murders or child pornography with the Group being held unaccountable for any of the enabling they have given would be a good NTEE classification. It would be the most accurate one anyway.

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

live_free_or_die's picture

Are you serious dave?

AA is not a substance abuse treatment, dave.

AA is a cult religion. AA should be using a NTEE code of religion.

AA is about getting god dave, nothing else.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

Substance abuse treatment and religion both seem wrong, but I see a strong arguement for religion.

live_free_or_die's picture

or any of its cult offshoots, not just Santa Clarita.

AA, NA and/or the 12 steps is a poisonous religion that will warp the mind, steal your soul and imprison you in a lifetime of cult meetings and service work. This poisonous religion just may kill you!

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

JR Harris's picture

Interestingly enough, the Santa Clarita Valley Central Office of Alcoholics Anonymous advertizes and promotes the Stepping Stones Alano Club located at 26111 Bouquet Cyn. Rd, Saugus, CA 91350, but adds a disclaimer that the 7 day a week AA meetings are not part of the club and hold no liability for what happens there (http://www.aascv.org/Directory/Stepping_Stones). To cement the fact that the club holds no liability they publish a file under "Please click here to read A.A.'s Guidelines on Clubs and their relation with A.A." http://www.aascv.org/pdfs/mg-03_clubs.pdf but the pdf file is not available on the server at this time???

The Stepping Stones Alano Club (http://www.steppingstonesalanoclub.com/) claims it has no liability with:

We are a non-profit corporation designed for our members to meet and share their experience, strength and hope with each other because of our common concern for people trying to achieve and maintain a life free from the use of alcohol or drugs.

The Alano Club offers the recovering alcoholic a place to go, to take a break and have a cup of coffee with men and women who understand the program and the process of recovery. We come together to find support and to learn about the many other resources available to the recovering alcoholic in our community.

Alcoholics Anonymous does not finance or lend its name to any outside organization. The Alano Club is an outside organization, separate and distinct from AA, Alanon, or any treatment facility. Each meeting held at the club is conducted by an autonomous group, and each group pays rent to the club to help pay expenses. Membership in the Alano Club is independent of membership in any of the various organizations who use the club's facilities for their meetings.

Club membership is open to all. Members include non-alcoholics who support the objectives of the Alano Club, the family and friends of recovering alcoholics, and recovering alcoholic and addicts.

Dues are $10 per month, or $100 per year. The club is governed by a Board of volunteer directors elected from club membership.

The club has stayed open since 2002 through the grace of God ,the willingness and generosity of volunteers, as well as support from throughout the Santa Clarita community

So primarily, if Alcoholics Anonymous, a treatment center or Al-Anon in Santa Clarita sends your teen to an event at this establishment, the establishment is not liable for anything that happens to them and Alcoholics Anonymous and perhaps the Treatment Center (TC or Rehab) is also saved by this disclaimer. Al-Anon, however appears to be liable because they claim to and by law have to protect teens. In other words, if it's an AA sponsored event your teen is not protected......

Was Karla Brada transported to the Stepping Stones Alano club by her Rehab at the request of a prescription of 12 Step participation by her Rehab and doctor? Nice loophole. I wonder if they have the people coming to the Stepping Stones Alano Club in Saugus sign a release saying they are aware of this disclaimer? Are the parents of a teen (13-17) made aware of this disclaimer?

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

live_free_or_die's picture

starting from the top of Bouquet Canyon down south through the curves and into Saugus, Canyon Country and eventually into LA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesY7acYOW8

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/