OK LisaMarie (a/k/a Danny) - Here it is, and its all yours

LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 19:10
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I thought you said you were

I thought you said you were in the Military.

USMJ = United States Military Justice/Law for the Military
JAG = Judge Advocate Generals/ Judges, Prosecutors, Lawyers and Court

Ifod, stop with the name calling and act as if you went to CalState and were in the military.

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Danny, there is no such thing known in the US Military as the USMJ.

According to you the USMJ stands for United States Military Justice.

Any actual veteran of the US Military would know that Danny.

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Conan's picture

As far as RfR is concerned you don't exist...lol. And that's the way it's going to stay. Not a single mention of Clara on the whole site and you can't get in to do anything about it. You must be livid...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

Very far from true, Ben. That is how I knew to go to LeavingAA to read the post attributed to me. Massive spoke about it. Now, I have to thank you for pissing Anti off enough that she rarely posts on RFR because you told her to do just what she should have done. If she felt she had been wronged in a criminal sense, don't go to RFR to vent about it. Go to the police. You even threatened her with the cyber version of a time out, and it was where PIE told her honestlyhow she felt about AAdaytona.org site. So, no, I can't read the site and I am never mentioned...

I don't have to do anything about it. I just find that anyone would dispute it to be interesting. Thank you for your backward support of me because, yes. Shut up about it. Two middle aged people came to Daytona to ride bikes on a holiday weekend. Boy, that sure is objectionable in the a biking mecca.

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Conan's picture

I told you that you are not a topic of interest on RfR and you go on about bike riding in Daytona? Bat shit crazy.

And you still haven't answered - did the FBI give you our IP addresses or are you a lying bitch? It must be one or the other....lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

Interesting that you would say that when a search just popped up 22 hits. That's down from 52 from when Anti was posting on about me.

You become extra bitchy when you get caught, dude.

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Conan's picture

I knew you couldn't resist going over and searching. Got that IP address now too - guess what's going to happen to that...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

What's new, Ben? You've claimed to have already had it, remember? So we are even, huh?

You hardly set something up. I've have been posting for some time about it being a public forum and being able to read it.

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Conan's picture

We'll get them all in the end. Want me to list the ones we have?...lol

What do you mean we are even? Is that because the FBI gave you our IP addresses? Did they Clara? Why are you afraid to answer? Caught in a lie caused by your need to have the last word? EGO problems there Clara - the next step is ordering a double soup and it's all downhill from there...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

Ben, I have been using my computer internet to go everywhere I want to go. You've always claimed to have the address, so it is no big deal to me. I checked just last night, and your claim that I have zilch hits on RFR are wrong. 52 when Anti was blathering and all but banned (or in self imposed exile over the lack of support) and 22 because of Massive. These are public forums and everyone can read them.

I have told you the truth. I don't understand your fear or your obsession. If you want to know more, find out for yourself.

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Conan's picture

You said that the FBI had given you our IP addresses, but when questioned on it, you refused to confirm that they had. You were lying, plain and simple. This will be highlighted regularly every day because it makes us laugh so much. Enjoy...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Conan's picture

I've just searched RfR using your name. Is this what you meant? All of the hits I got were old and every single one was talking about what a complete piece of shit you are. You really do believe that no publicity is bad publicity, don't you...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

Very old? I don't think August 16 is all that old, Ben. But I am so glad to see you post "all the hits" because you just said there were none. Now, I would imagine that you will remove those, a la Gunthar and the craigslist post because in your mind that makes me some sort of liar.

Why are you upset, boy? You've known forever that this is an open forum and that people can see it.

Do I expect that you and the rest of your pack of bullies would post something favorable about me? Of course not. But I have to admit that running around posting on AA forums with my given name is a new low for you. Of course, I knew about it the first time you did it because it triggered. That you verified it with childish glee on RFR was just frosting on the cake.

I think Gigi was right. The RFR chatroom is a drama station and you all then come over here to play it out. I wouldn't have to be there, anyway.

Also, I don't use mobile devices for anything but to make calls. My vision problems, which I have spoken about on the board, eliminates the ability to use most features so I haven't even updated my phone in years to have the capabilities most of you can enjoy. Grasping and angry.

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Clara how long have you been in AA? Do you have a god in your life? How has AA changed your life??

Clara's picture

Five years, Vicky. Yes, I have a god in my life. AA changed it around in a number of ways. Thankfully, too, because I am talking to a minister that received several hundred thousand dollars for the consturction of a new wing to commemorate my parents' 40th wedding anniversary. It was accepted with the condition that the education wing be for adult Christian education for perpetuity. It's been converted to a childs' wing.

What does this have to do with AA? Before AA, I would have handled the hurt and frustration over this incident in a completely different way. It would have been emotions first, rationale second. I am not going to ever suggest that anger, frustration, hurt or anything else that is a human emotion shouldn't be experienced and to let run its path... but I would have stayed in it to the point of a complete non-productive standstill. Today, instead of reacting adversely to threatening emails sent to us. I gave it to the professionals and let them handle it. The person responsible for them isn't who I assumed was behind it, and since the perp is thousands of miles and many time zones away, I am not concerned about it. But the old me would have shot first and asked questions later. Now I realize it was just a poor soul, acting out in hurt or frustration and there is no real reason for fear. I was also able to determine that the party I wrongfully accused is of no threat to me anymore, either, although he was for many years. Everything has an up side, Vicky, and I never believed that before AA.

But having said these things and feeling some personal triumph as the result of being in AA, there are things about it I disagree with. Had I came to AA here first, I doubt I would have stayed. But where I go sober, it was the perfect time, the right people, the right place... and it worked out.

Thank you for asking.

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Thanks for that. I was in AA for 11 years. I did find God in AA and I did learn about spirituality. I did have some great times in AA and I did meet some lovely people who I will remember forever. I got so sick of the cult like language and also sponsors telling sponsers to come of there meds. I saw suicides a lot and I hated it. I am glad you found your path.

But your not welcome there, you piss moan about RFR then you go read people's messages, where's the logic???

Clara's picture

Vicky, he got caught in a lie. Interesting to always be branded by him in one way or another when he is more guilty that those he mishandles.

I don't moan about RFR. It was just ... interesting to see the difference in the people there and how then then behave elsewhere.

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JR Harris's picture

If you really want stuff written about you, why don't you just ask Danny to post it on Fornits..... if he hasn't already. You have aligned yourself with a very mentally disturbed person who will turn on you in a minute. When you are old and in need of help getting around do you really think that just having a bunch of stuff written about you being a stalker on the web is going to help? It won't, just drop it and do something else. Being an online stalker is nothing to be proud of.

Danny is setting you up and he has done it to many people. Just walk away.

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JR Harris's picture

Clara, you are full of anger and resentment. Let it go or you will fall into the moral decay that is happening to Danny. You are continuing to stalk people online. Just stop it before it gets out of hand. You have already given way to much personal information out and just look at what has happened to Danny for something done over 30 years ago. What has happened to Danny can happen to you because he continued to stalk people and forums and it can happen to you. Just stop before you let this get out of hand. let it go and leave it alone. Don't turn into a Danny.

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Clara's picture

Thank you, PIE. I do think, though, that Vicky should be able to back up her claims pretty easily. I operate on a cell only and I can show a call log.

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causeandeffect's picture

Why should she have to endanger herself by posting personal information to back up her claims when "lisa marie" already admitted that if you called "her" number you would get a msg of danny bennison? "She" even told what the msg would say. To do so would be completely illogical and dangerous.

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Conan's picture

That's Bat Shit Crazy to you. And this from a liar who won't even confirm the lie that she got our IP addresses from the FBI. She is just so full of EGO - must have the last word. I bet she's got a fucking whiny voice as well...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

I don't have to confirm or deny anything to you. I will let you live with your own anger.

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Clara's picture

What would be so dangerous about it, C&E? AFter all, there was no danger in posting the screenshot of his purchase you all claimed that he made. I believe in fairness. She said that she spoke to him. I never read a post that claimed all she got was a message.

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I got his voice message first then I phoned again and he picked up. Why are you getting involved with this Clara?

Clara's picture

Because I am routinely asked to prove, prove, prove, Vicky, by people that never think they should ever demonstrate anything. I don't really care, but I did wonder why you would bother calling him at all. If he did what people attribute to him, I would leave him alone.

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It's got nothing to do with you.

Clara's picture

It's the behavior, Vicky, not me at all.

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causeandeffect's picture

No, clara. When danny was begging to skype with us as "lisa marie", he sent Gunthar his phone number. Then he admitted that if Gunthar would call the number, he would get a message from danny.

The receipt danny received from hide my ass didn't have any personal information on it as a phone record would.

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Clara's picture

I stayed out of all of that, but if I had someone in my midst that I thought was dangerous and capable of doing what has been attributed to Danny, I would leave him alone. You are people with families.

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Clara's picture

Not always, Cause. I would imagine that she could just post the number part that would also have the minutes. I say so because mine can pull up a cal history to one number. I would surely not suggest anyone do more than that, but I also wouldn't bother calling him at all. Most of the people here on glomming on to a drama that never included them at all. I don't understand why people never went to the police about him. If he had such an extensive record that he couldn't have gotten into the military, then I would think there would have been one person that would have come forth and pressed cahrges against him.

But Vicky was right. It had nothing to do with me. Danny and his past has also had nothing to do with her. She posted on RFR August 1 in the intro forum andprobably had never heard of him 20 days ago.

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What is it with you and RFR and disclosing information on here?? It's weird.

Clara's picture

It was just interesting to see what poison can do, Vicky, and how quickly. literally within 10 days, you were over on OPF, taking on people you don't even know, people that never had an encounter with you of any kind. I have no clue why Ben thought a public forum cannot be read, but that is his issue. And you did disclose personal information, Vicky. Your gender, your marriage, about your child, what happened in that marriage... Those are all personal details.

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I would never ever disclose any personal information ever. I ain't that stupid.

LisaMarie's picture

@Redact, Redact, Redact.....
Come on, pull those brain cells to the frontal lobes. Squeeze your face, harder....come on wimp, squeeze......feel any smarter. OK!
Now go get the phone records, redact all private info and present your case.

becket's picture

You disclose personal information every time you put your fingers on the keyboard. You may not divulge your phone number or address or, in your case, your gender; but there is a transparency about your disingenuousness that is quite revealing and distasteful, given your attitudinal 180.

I believe you are, in fact, every bit as stupid as you claim not to be.

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Persephone In Exile's picture
LisaMarie's picture

And you shouldn't get on a computer acting as ignorant as you do, either. But hey you do it anyway.

Clara's picture

Oh, I agree, PIE. I mean, she could then have someone stalk her, her husband, her ex, his ex, the exes' ex...

I only suggested it for the same reason that Antis always scream "prove it!" Sorry, but I don't think you guys are innocence in baiting Danny or anyone you think he could be posting as... You guys are no more "right' than you think he is. I don't think she should have even called him.

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SandyB's picture

I stalk him and find him and let people know that he is an abuser and has a history of sexual abuse beginning with his own sister

I'm Paul Revere kinda

"The shithead is coming. The shithead is coming"

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It is appreciated.

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Clara's picture

Sandy, why didn't you press charges against him if he did the things you claim? Doesn't that make a bit more sense than stalking someone for sport, but then claiming to be his victim?

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JR Harris's picture

You are new to the internet stalking of survivors from the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous. You have aligned yourself with Danny B, the sociopath and psychopath that has been doing this for over 10 years because of something he did in the late 70's. It would have remained buried if he hadn't have stalked people.

Is this what you want to do with your life Clara? Many, and I mean many people have been taken in by the sociopath appeal of Danny and started talking to him via email and phone. He does sound sincere at first until he finds out your secrets and uses them against you or trades them for other things. then his psychopath tendencies emerge and it is too late. Do you really want to let Danny help you to follow this path?

Clara, look at the numerous websites and even books that have been dedicated to Danny. Do you really want that to happen to you? It will if you don't disassociate from him immediately. Look at what has happened to Danny for something that happened 30 years ago. You are following the same path. You only have one online stalking incident heavily published with the Morelli's on the Huffington Post and the Philly Burbs as cribbisque. let it go and stop it. The EGO boost you get from it isn't worth it.

Let it go Clara and don't follow in Danny B's footsteps. You have seen your future, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but it is your choice.

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Clara's picture

JR, I am not the one making Danny the focus of my life, trying to chase him around or pursue him off the net. I have a feeling if he never participated on any blog at all, these same people would continue to pursue him. If there are viable charges to bring against him, do so. But, either way, he still has the attention of you and others. Even a dog known better than to sit in his own crap. How healthy is anyone that wants to stay in that, day after day?

I don't know Danny and don't have any reason to think that I have ever been in contact with him. If h did what he is accused of, that would be terrible, a real tragedy. I know a woman in the fellowship that was gangraped. She relived it in every day, every moment, and every meeting where she ver spoke. It ruined her marriage, took over her family... and it was 30 years ago. I know people that had upbringings where they would have had a right to grow up to be complete assholes, and two are my father and his sister. Instead, they were two of the most giving, generous souls. My sisters and I are still piecing together the extent of our father's generosity despite that he died in 2004. These are people that didn't choose to "sit in it" and let those things become their identities.

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JR Harris's picture

Clara, you are sick. Why are you talking about a gang rape given to you in confidence at an AA meeting? Do you know how mad that person would be if she knew you were doing that? Don't end up like Danny, he is trouble and well known as an Internet Stalker. If you want to do this go over to Fornits where you and Danny can stalk everyone and tell all of their secrets, of course yours will also be highlighted also. You may even get a book written about you..........

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Clara's picture

It wasn't told to me in the confines of an AA meeting. She talked about this everywhere she went, to every person she came in contact with... Why don't you read the posts before leaping in to respond?

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Conan's picture

Backtracking using lies - just like when you said the FBI had given you our IP addresses...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

Fearful boy, Conan. It doesn't become you.

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Conan's picture

We're laughing our asses off at you're refusal to verify your lie...lol Hardly fearful...lol

Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol

Clara's picture

I am not going to be showing work product, Con, anymore than Vicky is going to show her information. You don't seem to understand how things are done here in America. What happen to all of the calls you were going to make and the lies you posted to get Orange to respond? You called them "assumptions" when I told you upfront just what had taken place and that he wasn't involved nor did he have to be. You wanted to believe differently, and there is no 12 steps for that.

Why don't you just make your calls? I think it will go something like this... "We aren't available to comment, sir." It isn't going to be one of those... "Ben, Ben, oh, say, Homer, it's that good ole boy BEN from EnGLEN [rhyme]. You got that file over thar? Move your moonpie and give it here! gosh, it's got a ring on it from your soda. I got 'em right here on the line. Okay, yeah, here 'tis! You be that bad bully on that weird forum that done all that bullying. Yessirre, we heard all about it... Say, you watch the Olympics? Which one of them Spice girls your favorite?"

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