A former US Presidential candidates AA timeline

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Submitted by DeConstructor on Thu, 07/19/2012 - 07:41

Newt Gingrich has publicly described the value of AA in his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNsLfssU_yU

Last night on Jay Lenos show, and incidently on the couch next to Snookie, Newt describes how much he enjoys drinking heavily. Start 07:30 in the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seJYZWV-XwE

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Clara

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:29

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Clara

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:29

It's entertaining to see how OPF twists anything it can despite what a person says. I guess it is just an MO so I shouldn't take it personally. Nowhere does Newt say that he is in AA or that he is an alcoholic, just that he had benefitte from reading the material, and he said that he drink "sometimes." I think his response to Jay was in jest because people always make jokes about how jittery they are before appearing. Hilary Swank said the samething. It's called being entertaining, and there really is no reason to ReConstruct his words to mean something he didn't intend. And I am in no way a Newt fan.

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DeConstructor

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:42

'Nowhere does Newt say that he is in AA or that he is an alcoholic, just that he had benefitte from reading the material'

A friend 'loaned/gave' these TWO particular books to him.

Yep that was just to see a new and wonderful way of life. No it had NOTHING to do with actually drinking, rather, just a good way to live a spiritual, not religious, life.

Choose which side the of fence you are on Clara, or you will be losing credibility with your fellow apologists.

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Clara

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:47

I have nothing to do with it, DeCon. His words speak for themselves and there is no reason to twist them to mean anything other than what he intends.

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DeConstructor

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 10:01

A person of his national interest publicly demonstrating the national disgrace and public failure of the AA faith.

Maybe it will not take Lyndsay Lohan running someone over before the country determines that current substance abuse treatment methods are the worst public health failure in modern history.

Perhaps society will decide that Christopher Hitchens is right, and 'Religion poisons everything' In the process they may decide that turning over what they claim is a medical issue to a religion staffed with the inmates is not really a great idea.

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Clara

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 11:39

How do you even gather that from that he simply read a book? For many, AA is not a failure, and he isn't even in the fellowship.

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JR Harris

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 06:51

Actually Dr. Morgan Poncy, the Medical Director of Sunrise Detox even got involved with the Lyndsay Lohan online debate in July 2010 in an article entitled,"Docs Warn: Lindsay Lohan’s Taking Such Dangerous Drugs, She Could Overdose Before Jail"

One of the negative side effects of Dilaudid is that it can eventually lead your body to stop breathing, according to Dr. Morgan Poncy, the Medical Director of Sunrise Detox, a luxury drug and alcohol facility in Fla. The drug is also highly psychologically addictive.

“Once people become addicted, they lose common sense. They use more and more and more. They need a higher dosage for euphoria. They don’t act reasonably. They let themselves go. Their hygiene habits go, I saw [Lindsay Lohan] on the news last night, she looked like crap. Addictions require more and more and more and you act foolish to get it,” Dr. Poncy, who has not treated Lindsay, explains. “You break the law, you let yourself go physically, you don’t show up to work. Those are behaviors are addiction. As an addict, you behave badly to get the drug.”

Not only is Lindsay taking one of the strongest (and most dangerous) painkillers on the market, but she’s also been prescribed a dangerous mixture of anti-depressants and stimulants — something Los Angeles-based addiction expert Marty Brenner says might kill the actress before she even begins to serve her 90 days in jail.

Source:http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/07/07/lindsay-lohan-addicted-to-prescr...

It would appear that "Opinions" as alkieanon would say are rampant at Sunrise Detox.

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SandyB

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 12:19

that he can read

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JR Harris

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 14:31

Actually, Newt Gingrich was highlighted in January of 2012 at the peak of his attempt at the presidency of the United States.

Who is Newt Gingrich's AA Sponsor? The voting public and Congress has a right to know. http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/629

Newt Gingrich Big Book Thumper? A Presidential Candidate that preaches the 1936 Antiquated Text from Culty AA Program http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/524

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RandleO (not verified)

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 16:55

Newt, is an Icon in Georgia. Don't mess with the Newt, DeCon. Capt Call may come and deal wid ya.

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Thu, 07/19/2012 - 17:01

Newt Gingrich did not make it to the Presidential nomination status. It is interesting that he is most like the adulterous, lying con man of the Alcoholics Anonymous indoctrination path, Bill Wilson. Newt also cheated on his wife with a younger woman at his place of work and lied about it, just like Bill Wilson.

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RandleO (not verified)

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 17:38

Awe, come on JR. Now ya picking on "The Newt".

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Thu, 07/19/2012 - 22:20

"Newt Gingrich did not make it to the Presidential nomination status. It is interesting that he is most like the adulterous, lying con man of the Alcoholics Anonymous indoctrination path, Bill Wilson. Newt also cheated on his wife with a younger woman at his place of work and lied about it, just like Bill Wilson."

So this is your deal, isn't it, JR Harris? This is the unforgivable, the most insulting, despicable, pain-inducing act any human being can involve himself in.

Or herself. In which case somebody gets dumped. And then that somebody can't douse the fire of acrimony no matter what he does, no matter how he tries to vent it down and articulate it through others' behaviors.

You are as transparent as the day is long. You need an internet-less vaycay, dude.

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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 03:50

They appear to have done a fine job of sticking their noses into a divorce in Philadelphia....

Friend of Bill W posted at 3:35 pm on Sat, Aug 20, 2011

This is formal notice to you, cribbisque­, and any or all parties using this username and password for this account, to cease and desist any and all activities­, including posting real names, locations, places of business or other personal informatio­n on the internet via public forums or comments in an attempt to harass or intimidate myself or other parties who may or may not be enjoined in a discussion regarding Anthony or Allison Morelli.

Cyber-stalking is a crime and I have every intention of pursuing legal remedies against you.

Source: http://www.phillyburbs.com/divorced-dad-s-blog-becomes-free-speech-test/...

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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 07:31

It would seem that no one is as interested in this as you are, JR. You keep posting it and no one is taking your bait. But how about something that point to why Miss Annie got so nuts... We pointed out her own many names where she began doing just what you have done, JR. And, yes, I am a friend of Allison's and I would defend her against a controlling type of man, just as I would anyone else.

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And I cannot believe how many people are defending Allison Morelli and her convoluted attempt at parenting. Relationship rage isn't really an issue when a mother, in this case Allison, is grossly negligent and her ability and willingness to throw her OWN children under the bus is sickening!

Perhaps the masses are blinded by the media's attempt to paint fathers all black and any mother, even the abusive ones, as all white.

Come on Allison - you love all the attention -- why not tell the general public and your media groupies exactly what YOU do with YOUR children on your parenting time?

There are people watching you - every stinking thing you do. Most people would at least fake it when they know they are living under a microscope. You? No, not you. How's this going to look on your next TV interview?
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You don't seem to realize that she has nothing to do with your choice of behavior. The support of taking down a blog that is simply a hate vehicle has nothing to do with her parenting. No one knows anything about it but what some deranged hateful man and, more weirdly, his girlfriend... choose to post about it. Now youleave a post where you literally threaten her with stalking. She isn't living under anyone's microscope but yours. Why can't you see that the high drama person is you?
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03:53 PM on 08/15/2011
Of course I'm watching her - it's a train wreck in process, only in slow motion. My post isn't threatening her with stalking, she's now a "media personality" of her own making and my watching what she does is not different than you, cribbisque, responding to my every post.

Granted Allison has zero to do with MY choice of behaviors - my life and her life intersect only on one plane, that of a shared experience called alcoholism.

Am I interested in what she does - most certainly. Do I wish her a better outcome? Definitely! However, unless you are a party to her daily activities there is probably much that you don't know about Allison and her day-to-day struggles.

Perhaps, if you are a friend or family member of Ms. Allison's, you'd see the elephant on the table. As an internet troll (if that is indeed what you are) your position seeks to advance her cause in a very negative light.

To answer your first post, I am neither Misty nor Anthony, not wish to rear any of their children, nor those of any other person. I'd certainly divulge my identity and give you the opportunity to discuss who I am and how I know the specifics of this case if you asked.

I certainly hope my next interview isn't about the specifics of the Morelli v. Morelli case - but if it should be, it is what it is.
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Fri, 07/20/2012 - 07:38

Take it up with becket, Clara, she is the one that takes offense to people butting into marital disputes. I also see that you claimed to have "special knowledge" about the incident because you are a trained Bill Wilson chanter. Perhaps you should take beckets advice?

http://orange-papers.org/forum/comment/48641#comment-48641

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Clara

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 07:44

JR, anything to make the bog about me. Oh well, at least the fellow members know I had nothing to do with it. LOL!

I don't know what Becket's advice is, friend. I also don't care as she doesn't know the circumstances around the other posts. Neither do you, but since you have the time to read all 1000 posts the article generated, why don't we met back here at 5:00 to discuss it?

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becket

Sun, 07/22/2012 - 18:22

I have no gripe with Clara, JR Harris. I just find it almost fascinating how you are processing getting dumped. It's gettin' all over everybody.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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Clara

Sun, 07/22/2012 - 18:43

Thank you, Beck. What I find fascinating is how this otherwise thoroughly uninteresting woman has bloggers here scrambing all over the net, trying to look at anything she might post to, even manufacturing some in the process. People become "Dannys" when they behave that way.

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