Ouija board adventure as told by Alcoholics Anonymous co-founder

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Submitted by live_free_or_die on Thu, 07/19/2012 - 01:44

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According to his official A.A. biography, and describing it as “the fairly usual experience,” A.A. co-founder Bill Wilson states:

“The ouija board got moving in earnest. What followed was the fairly usual experience—it was a strange mélange of Aristotle, St. Francis, diverse archangels with odd names, deceased friends—some in purgatory and others doing nicely, thank you! There were malign and mischievious ones of all descriptions, telling of vices quite beyond my ken, even as former alcoholics. Then, the seemingly virtuous entities would elbow them out with messages of comfort, information, advice—and sometimes just sheer nonsense.” (Pass It On, pg. 278) (bold mine)

What does this have to do with anything? This man, who “wrote” the 12 Steps, was a willing conduit for unclean spirits. It is time we quit pretending Christ has blessed this program which denies His very Name.

Millions follow A.A., a religion that has no understanding of sin, repentance, or Salvation. Yet, how could these be understood–Christ is seen as one potential higher power among many. A.A.’s success is not in treatment effectiveness, but in public relations and publicity, and in keeping unbelievers far from the biblical Christ. A.A. also serves to dilute and confuse Christians who do attend the A.A. religion. These, alas, often end up with a syncretistic spirituality. Of course, that is the point.

When will things change? When we separate, understanding at last that participation in this thing is offensive to, and forbidden by, the Lord. Then, and only then, will many of us be free from bondage because we have sought Christ.

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Pennywise

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:09

Isn't there an account somewhere by someone (I think a woman) about how Bill made the table in the Spook Room levitate?

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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Pennywise

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:14

Interesting:

On evenings when they decided to use the table instead of the Ouija board, they gathered around it, each person with their fingers resting lightly on the table's sharp edge. They dimmed the lights. Bill's voice would often ask the questions. "Are there any spirits in the room?" he would ask. "Are there any spirits who have a message for us?" Breathing slowed. The spirits seemed to gather in the room's dark corners, above the shelf where Bill's violins and musical instruments were kept, or in the angle of the wall and ceiling near the window.

Then the people seated around the table would hear a soft, hesitant tap. Sometimes, if Bill had asked a direct question, the taps meant yes or no: one for yes and two for no. At other times the spirits had a longer message. If it tapped once, that meant the letter A, twice for the letter B and so on. In an evening the table might tap out a phrase or two. According to both Bill and Lois, on more than one occasion they succeeded in levitating the table a few inches off the floor.

At other times the Wilsons and their guests experimented with automatic writing. Bill Wilson was very good at this. He would set a pen down on a piece of paper, close his eyes and wait for the spirit to guide his hand. On some evenings Bill would relax his long frame out on the living room couch in front of the big stone fireplace and wait in a state of half-dreaming, half-consciousness, the smoke curling up from his cigarette. Lying there, he would receive messages, sometimes whole, as when he heard the Reverend Dwight Moody warning him against the past, and sometimes they would come to him letter by letter.

One evening the message spelled out appeared in Latin. Not knowing Latin, Bill took the message to John D. Rockefeller's associate Willard Richardson, who studied it and said it appeared to be an account of early Christianity in Italy. In Nell Wing's version of this story, Willard Richardson was in the room while Bill was receiving the message, and the Latin turned out to be a sermon written by St. Boniface. "They were working away at spiritualism," says a friend who was often a visitor there. "It wasn't just a hobby."

Read more: http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Books/2004/03/The-Spook-Room.aspx...

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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alkieanon

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 05:26

More opinions?

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YuppieMonkey

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 05:48

If you are going to a Big Book or 12x12 study, you are not only hearing the divine spiritual wisdom of Dr. Bob and Bill W, but also Aristotle and St. Francis amongst other arguing Saints.
No wonder it works even when you don't work it.

Tool, Tards, Dolts... DOPES!!!

"You'll pay to know what you really think". - J.R. Bob Dobbs

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alkieanon

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 06:21

YuppieMonkey says: "No wonder it works even when you don't work it.". That's right. God is everywhere (you want to be).

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YuppieMonkey

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 06:36

"That's right. God is everywhere (you want to be)".

Are you saying you get no special favors for "working the steps"?
Well from where I stand, that statement makes the 12 step cult religion completely superfluous.
I knew you would make it, Alkieanon. Enjoy your freedom.

"You'll pay to know what you really think". - J.R. Bob Dobbs

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alkieanon

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 23:42

"It is clearly fun to make fun of people. Otherwise, it wouldn't be such a popular pastime."

"Now, I really get it, how fun it is to make fun of others. Nothing like pissing on someone else to build oneself up. But is it the rational thing to do?"

"How rational is it to criticize religion, to make fun of the faithful?"

"Now, some who ridicule religion may say they are only making a case to convince the religious to abandon error. Well, sure. I mean, how often have you been convinced to change your most firmly held convictions via ridicule? Happens all the time, right?"

"Next up, how does dehumanizing the faithful look? It looks bad. It looks juvenile, puerile. It looks smug and self-righteous (the very features we claim the faithful display)."

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YuppieMonkey

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 05:30

"How rational is it to criticize religion, to make fun of the faithful?"
"Now, some who ridicule religion may say they are only making a case to convince the religious to abandon error".
"Next up, how does dehumanizing the faithful look?"

Finally, somebody is finally getting it! All I ever asked was that AA admit that it is a cult religion.
21st Century faith healing.

"You'll pay to know what you really think". - J.R. Bob Dobbs

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JR Harris

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 05:45

You see alkieanon, there are only a few spiritualist, not religious groups that dehumanizes people and the majority of them appear to be backed by the scripture of Bill Wilson and AAWS at the Interchurch Center in New York who label it's members as alcoholics or addicts.

http://www.strike-the-root.com/dehumanizing-people-is-fun

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

RandleO (not verified)

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 17:40

You freaks must really be bored or just don't have girlfriends. Boys lets get on with your sorry ass lives.

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YuppieMonkey

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 05:35

"You freaks must really be bored or just don't have girlfriends. Boys lets get on with your sorry ass lives".

Finally, a real He-Man that has a real life

"You'll pay to know what you really think". - J.R. Bob Dobbs