88 ‘Books That Shaped America’. Library of Congress issues list that reflects a restless, diverse nation. Most great book lists concentrate on works of the highest literary or scholarly merit. Think of the Harvard Classics, Harold Bloom’s “Western Canon,” the Modern Library’s selection of “the 100 best novels of the 20th century.” Here, the compilers imply, are our cultural masterpieces, the Mount Everests and K2s all literate people should scale in their lifetime. You haven’t read Immanuel Kant’s “Critique of Pure Reason” or James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake”? Get cracking and break out the ropes, climbing shoes and pitons. Happily, the Library of Congress’ latest exhibition, “The Books That Shaped America,” ignores the familiar high-culture shibboleths and embraces cookbooks (Irma Rombauer’s “The Joy of Cooking”) and schoolbooks (McGuffey’s “Primer”), mysteries (Dashiell Hammett’s “Red Harvest”) and science fiction (Ray Bradbury’s “Fahrenheit 451”), political tracts as well as poetry, both Dr. Seuss and Dr. Spock. The exhibit, which opens Monday and runs through Sept. 29 in the Thomas Jefferson Building, puts on display what one might call the classics of upset and troublemaking.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/22/3671641/88-books-that-shaped-americ...
(Guess what? Number 2 alphabetically and number 51 by publication date.)
Let the "minimization" of America's literary history begin ....
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JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 05:42
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They are all Fiction or Biography Books also
Guess what? I see Scientology based Dianetics (Alcoholics Anonymous lite) didn't make the list!
Where is "My Struggle" or "My Battle" on this list?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Struggle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_battle
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 06:03
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I Read Banned Books
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:46
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Please note the title 88 ‘Books That Shaped America’
It doesn't say "American Books" these are books that shaped America. Please read you own posts before pulling narcissistic comments.
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 18:50
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Aren't You Attentive, Or Is It Retentive?
Aren't you attentive, or is it retentive? Changing comments to suit your majesty. LOL!
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:40
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This is Just Fucked Up.
And my home town newspaper to. Nice alkie.
At least my favorite author made the list. Robert A. Heinlein’s “Strange in a Strange Land”. This book by Heinlein came out in 1961. Just in time for the “Turn On, Tune In, and Drop Out.” Crowd of Timothy Leary and the LSD crowd. The book was rather controversial went it hit the book stores. This list of “influential” books is also meant to be controversial as well.
From the article>>”The exhibit, which opens Monday and runs through Sept. 29 in the Thomas Jefferson Building, puts on display what one might call the classics of upset and troublemaking.“
From the article>>”No matter. This exhibition is meant to generate argument, surprise and controversy. And it will. But the Library of Congress also deserves kudos for having produced this exceptionally imaginative and convincing list of many, if certainly not all, “the books that shaped America.”
From the article>>”The library released its picks of the most influential books Friday. Librarian of Congress James Billington says the titles aren’t meant as “best” books.>/strong> Instead, he says, the library wants to spark a conversation about books that influenced the nation.
From the Library of Congress website:
http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/
“This list is a starting point,” said Librarian of Congress James H. Billington. “It is not a register of the ‘best’ American books – although many of them fit that description. Rather, the list is intended to spark a national conversation on books written by Americans that have influenced our lives, whether they appear on this initial list or not.”
“We hope you will view the list, nominate other titles, and most importantly, choose to read and discuss some of the books on this list, reflecting America’s unique and extraordinary literary heritage, which the Library of Congress makes available to the world.”
http://www.loc.gov/bookfest/books-that-shaped-america/
Robert E. Heinlein, "Stranger in a Strange Land" (1961) shoud be Robert A. Heinlein.
“The first science fiction novel to become a bestseller, "Stranger in a Strange Land" is the story of Valentine Michael Smith, a human raised on Mars by Martians (his parents were on the first expedition to Mars and he was orphaned when the crew perished) who returns to Earth about 20 years later. Smith has psychic powers but complete ignorance of human mores. The book is considered a classic in its genre.”
http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2012/12-123.html
I hope and pray to the Door Knob that Orange makes the list soon.
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:01
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News From The Library Of Congress
http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2012/12-123.html

JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:04
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“Fahrenheit 451” (Ray Bradbury, 1953) - Burning Books?
“Fahrenheit 451” (Ray Bradbury, 1953) is on the list of "88 'Book that shaped America'" It was written by Ray Douglas Bradbury, an American fantasy, science fiction, horror and mystery fiction writer. He would definitely be in the same class of Writer as Bill Wilson.
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becket
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:33
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Right. There have been posts
Right. There have been posts here about wiping asses with the Big Book, shooting the Big Book, burning the Big Book - is burning books something you applaud?
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― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 20:49
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The Burning Book Treatment Center
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7E_kTyJ7DM
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Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:44
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Never read the novel...
But I saw the film and it was a great production. The book people all memorized a book and in the end the main book lady went up in flames ....died with her books!!
I think I would memorize Albert Camus...just can't decide if it would be "The Myth of Sisyphus" or "The Plague"
Anthro
alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 18:51
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Books That Shaped America
JR Harris asks: "Where is "My Struggle" or "My Battle" on this list?" Try again. Books that shaped America, not Germany.
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:28
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Bill Wilson and his Library at Stepping Stones
Bill Wilson had a very extensive library at his Stepping Stones Compound in Westchester, New York. As you can see, he was searching for sex, spirituality and the ultimate con. None of the 88 books seem to have been in his library.
Source "books at Stepping Stones":http://www.scribd.com/doc/44668729/Books-at-Stepping-Stones
“The Descent of Man and Selection in Relation to Sex” by Charles Darwin in 1896.
“Religion and Lust, or the Physical Correlation of Religious Emotion and Sexual Desire” by James Weir Jr. in 1905.
“The Sex Education of Children” by Mary Ware Dennett in 1931.
“Sexual Reproduction” by Susan Michelmore in 1964. Note: Original binding is covered with blank paper on which is hand-printed “REPRODUCTION.”
“The Wapshot Chronicle” by John Cheever in 1965 with the inscription “Very sexy, everything interpreted in relation to sex. But most imaginative & vivid pictures of nature, L.B.W. 10/3/82″
“How to Attract Birds” by Robert S. Lemmon in 1947.
“Our Amazing Birds: Little-known Facts about their Personal Lives” by Robert S. Lemmon 1951.
“Water, Prey and Game Birds of North America” by Alexander Wetmore in 1965.
“My Imitation of Christ” 1943 edition inscription:“Christmas 1943 To Bill Wilson in Grateful thanks and gratitude for carrying on his work! “Bill” Gardiner (sp) A. A. Portland, Oregon”
“My Imitation of Christ” 1954 edition inscription:“To dear Bill On our twentieth Anniversary 12/11/54 May God bless you and keep you always close to His Sacred Heart Sister M. Ignatia”
“Judge John W. Edmonds of the New York Court of Appeals: A Psychic Sensitive” by Paul R. Lomaxe, 1945.
“Psychic Life and Laws” by Charles Oliver Sahler, 1901. Inscribed “”With best wishes C.O. Sahler May 25th 1909 Kingslin on Hudson”
“Challenge of the Unknown: Exploring the Psychic World” by Louis K. Anspacher, 1947. Inscribed “In Bill Wilson’s handwriting: “Dear Smits: A Merry Christmas to you. Bill Whoo, whoo! Dec/47″ In Lois Wilson’s handwriting: “I bought this at [Wilbur and Ruth] Smith’s garage sale after they had sold their house in Chappaqua – 9/77″
“The Seven Purposes: An Experience in Psychic Phenomena” by Margaret Cameron, 1918.
“The Psychic Stream” by Arthur Findlay, 1947. Inscribed “”To my Mentor and luminary, Bill-with Sincere Gratitude Clix [in pencil, separate hand: 'Berthoud']”
“The Law of Psychic Phenomena” by Thomson Jay Hudson, 1913, Inscribed “”May Seter Smith 9-18, 1914″
“What Do Spiritualists Believe?”, 1943 by Paul R. Lomaxe.
“The Spiritual Exercises of Saint Ignatius of Loyola”, 1950 by W. H. Longridge.
“The Spiritual World and Our Entering It”, 1938 by William H. Mayhew.
“Was Abraham Lincoln a Spiritualist?”, 1891 by Nettie Colburn Maynard. Inscribed “To Bill W. – The slaves you have helped to free were far more abject than those whom Lincoln freed – I, as one of them, bless you. Art F. June 18 – 1952″
“The Presence of Other Worlds: The Psychological/Spiritual Findings of Emanuel Swedenborg”, 1974 by Wilson Van Dusen.
“Spiritual Reconstruction” by Anonymous 1948. Inscribed “To Bill W. & Lois In happy memory of your visit to A.A. in London. From Gladys B. June 1950″
“The Science Philosophy and Religion of Spiritualism” by Peggy Barnes unknown date.
“The Secret Path: A Technique of Spiritual Self-Discovery for the Modern World”, 1942 by Paul Brunton. Inscribed “To: My Dear Son William G. Wilson From Mother June 1944″
“Natural Law in the Spiritual World”, 1890 by Henry Drummond. Inscribed “Belle DeW. Fuller 1892″.
“What Constitutes Spiritual Living”, 1911 by John Goddard.
“On the Phenomena of Modern Spiritualism”, 1855 by William B. Hayden. Engraved calling card, “Burnham” Handwritten: “L.S.B.”
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Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:34
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hahaha
great post JR
wondering if Bill W was a catholic priest in some other life....just mixin a little bit-o-that old time religion with sex....sex sex and more sex....
Anthro
alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:03
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Those Books Can Be Found In The Library Of Congress
Those books can be found in the Library of Congress or any other library in America.
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:10
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Bill Wilson joins the list of famous fanasy and fiction writers
Priceless............

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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:20
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Tennis Anyone?
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 05:54
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The book that Bill Wilson used in his research from the list
“The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” (L. Frank Baum, 1900)
It is nice to see that “Alcoholics Anonymous” (anonymous, 1939) is considered a "Novel" and not a piece of Scientific Research.
You just shot yourself in the foot again alkieanon!
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 06:03
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Freedom To Read (Freedom Of Choice)
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 06:07
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Is this the "List of Books" you use for research alkieanon?
There is not ONE technical book in that list, not one Scientific Journal.
When you got to a library or the book store looking for a book on how to fix your home, do you always go to the "fiction" area first?
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 07:49
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Library Of Congress
When one looks for "fiction", one need not go any further than OPF. LOL!
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:05
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The Big Book
alkie says: "When one looks for "fiction", one need not go any further than OPF. LOL!"
When one looks for magic, one reads the Big Book, otherwise known as Alcoholics Anonymous.
When one reads the Big Book, one needs to remember that bill w liked to hang out in his man cave (the spook room) where he would converse with dead people, dead monks, hold seances and play with his Ouija board.
CLar has said she talks to her deceased father, but as of yet I don't think she has confirmed whether or not her father talks to her. Stay tuned.
beclit, or marrrietta (can't remember which incarnation) has indicated that there is nothing wrong in talking to ghosts.
Insanity, these steppers live in insanity.
And remember, there is no such thing as a free lunch, and stay out of mcdonalds, vast amounts of convicted criminals hang out there and if they don't kill ya, those big macs will.
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Clara
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:12
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I don't know anyone that hasn
I don't know anyone that hasn't spoke "to" a deceased loved one, even if only to say "I miss you." If you haven't, LFOD, you either have your loved ones still with you (lucky girl) or you just aren't human!
And, yes, my father speaks to me in many ways. Mom doesn't, but I did feel her presence in my room a couple of months after she died. All of my family have instances of this. We feel lucky.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
becket
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:23
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Clara did say that she
Clara did say that she sometimes talks to her deceased father.
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JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:34
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“The Spiritual World and Our Entering It”
“The Spiritual World and Our Entering It”, 1938 by William H. Mayhew was one of Bill Wilson's technical manuals at his research compound of Stepping Stones, you might try reading that one. From the voodoo shaman himself, from beyond the grave.
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live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:51
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Writing lessons
According to bill w, a dead monk helped him write the traditions, correct?
And I believe, according to bill w, dead folks talked to him as he lay on a couch in his man cave (spook room), and one of his "believers" would take notes of the conversation, correct?
Maybe bill w was doing acid before he came out about publicly?
Let's not forget that bill w claimed to be the jesus reincarnate as well.
And he was a depressed fucker for decades.
How can anybody believe any of his crap?
Well, as the saying goes, there's one born very minute.
Bill w could make a boomerrang though. If you believe it.
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msafrany
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 06:14
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Recognition?
This reminds me of the "2005 Harry Truman Medal for Economic Policy" awarded to Alan Greenspan for his exceptional contribution to the American economy. Right before the CRASH!
At least it makes steppers feel good about themselves.
Tools, Tards..Dolts, DOPES!!
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 06:36
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Alcoholics Anonymous makes the top 88 "Novel" list
Right in between......
“Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” (Mark Twain, 1884)
“Alcoholics Anonymous” (anonymous, 1939) <---- I'm Impressed
“American Cookery” (Amelia Simmons, 1796) <----- might have recipes?
Well, I guess I will start reading the list from top to bottom. Start with a novel from Mark Twain on how to fish and put penny's on dead peoples eyes, then learn voodoo ritual chants from Bill Wilson, then learn American Cookery with Amelia Simmons.
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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 07:53
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Name Recognition
They're in good company.
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:11
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Yes, Bill Wilson joined the ranks of many Addiction researchers
Yes, Bill Wilson joined the ranks of many Addiction researchers. He will be remembered for his book of fiction with them.
"Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” (Mark Twain, 1884)
“Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee” (Dee Brown, 1970)
“The Call of the Wild” (Jack London, 1903)
“The Cat in the Hat” (Dr. Seuss, 1957)
“Catch-22” (Joseph Heller, 1961)
“The Catcher in the Rye” (J.D. Salinger, 1951)
“Charlotte’s Web” (E.B. White, 1952)
“The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care” (Benjamin Spock, 1946)
“Cosmos” (Carl Sagan, 1980)
“A Curious Hieroglyphick Bible” (anonymous, 1788)
“The Education of Henry Adams” (Henry Adams, 1907)
“Fahrenheit 451” (Ray Bradbury, 1953)
“Family Limitation” (Margaret Sanger, 1914)
“The Federalist” (anonymous, 1787)
“The Feminine Mystique” (Betty Friedan, 1963)
“The Fire Next Time” (James Baldwin, 1963)
“For Whom the Bell Tolls” (Ernest Hemingway, 1940)
“Gone With the Wind” (Margaret Mitchell, 1936)
“Goodnight Moon” (Margaret Wise Brown, 1947)
“The Grapes of Wrath” (John Steinbeck, 1939)
“The Great Gatsby” (F. Scott Fitzgerald, 1925)
“Harriet, the Moses of Her People” (Sarah H. Bradford, 1901)
“History of the Expedition Under the Command of the Captains Lewis and Clark” (Meriwether Lewis, 1814)
“How the Other Half Lives” (Jacob Riis, 1890)
“How to Win Friends and Influence People” (Dale Carnegie, 1936)
“Howl” (Allen Ginsberg, 1956)
“The Iceman Cometh” (Eugene O’Neill, 1946)
“Idaho: A Guide in Word and Pictures” (Federal Writers’ Project, 1937)
“In Cold Blood” (Truman Capote, 1966)
“Invisible Man” (Ralph Ellison, 1952)
“Joy of Cooking” (Irma Rombauer, 1931)
“The Jungle” (Upton Sinclair, 1906)
“Leaves of Grass” (Walt Whitman, 1855)
“The Legend of Sleepy Hollow” (Washington Irving, 1820)
“Little Women, or Meg, Jo, Beth and Amy” (Louisa May Alcott, 1868)
“Mark, the Match Boy” (Horatio Alger Jr., 1869)
“McGuffey’s Newly Revised Eclectic Primer” (William Holmes McGuffey, 1836)
“Moby-Dick; or the Whale” (Herman Melville, 1851)
“The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass” (Frederick Douglass, 1845)
“Native Son” (Richard Wright, 1940)
“New England Primer” (anonymous, 1803)
“New Hampshire” (Robert Frost, 1923)
“On the Road” (Jack Kerouac,1957)
“Our Bodies, Ourselves” (Boston Women’s Health Book Collective, 1971)
“Our Town: A Play” (Thornton Wilder, 1938)
“Peter Parley’s Universal History” (Samuel Goodrich, 1837)
“Poems” (Emily Dickinson, 1890)
“Poor Richard Improved and the Way to Wealth” (Benjamin Franklin, 1758)
“Pragmatism” (William James, 1907)
“The Red Badge of Courage” (Stephen Crane, 1895)
“Red Harvest” (Dashiell Hammett, 1929)
“Riders of the Purple Sage” (Zane Grey, 1912)
“The Scarlet Letter” (Nathaniel Hawthorne, 1850)
“Sexual Behavior in the Human Male” (Alfred C. Kinsey, 1948)
“Silent Spring” (Rachel Carson, 1962)
“The Snowy Day” (Ezra Jack Keats, 1962)
“The Souls of Black Folk” (W.E.B. Du Bois, 1903)
“The Sound and the Fury” (William Faulkner, 1929)
“Spring and All” (William Carlos Williams, 1923)
“Stranger in a Strange Land” (Robert E. Heinlein, 1961)
“A Street in Bronzeville” (Gwendolyn Brooks, 1945)
“A Streetcar Named Desire” (Tennessee Williams, 1947)
“Tarzan of the Apes” (Edgar Rice Burroughs, 1914)
“Their Eyes Were Watching God” (Zora Neale Hurston, 1937)
“To Kill a Mockingbird” (Harper Lee, 1960)
“A Treasury of American Folklore” (Benjamin A. Botkin, 1944)
“A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” (Betty Smith, 1943)
“Uncle Tom’s Cabin” (Harriet Beecher Stowe, 1852)
“Walden, or Life in the Woods” (Henry David Thoreau, 1854)
“The Weary Blues” (Langston Hughes, 1925)
“Where the Wild Things Are” (Maurice Sendak, 1963)
“The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” (L. Frank Baum, 1900)
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live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:55
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Sandyb
I have read all these books.
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Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 08:01
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capital idea JR Harris
and just because the cult bible made on a list of most influencial books doens't mean the influence was good. I think that was the point of JR mentioning "My Struggle" which went over your head. We are simply discovering how easily duped lower levels of insight, intuition, and intelligence are when combined with excessive use of a mind altering substance.
The really insightful, intelligent, clear minded never pick up the bible of AA and get sober on own. Just because the cult of AA and all their followers bought millions and millions of big books over the decades around the world to dump into the laps of unwilling prisoners or those forced into treatment centers, shouldnt allow them to qualify in the same way that people chose to read "A streetcar named Desire" or "To Kill a Mockingbird".
The cult home groups bought the bulk of those books throughout last 70 years and forced them into the hands of other people.
How about a count on how many of those books ended up right in the garbage can?
I bet millions more threw away the big book than "Atlas Shrugged"
Anthro
becket
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:22
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How many schools have dumped
How many schools have dumped "To Kill A Mockingbird" into the laps of students to read whether they were interested or not? Ah, you're right - they weren't free, the students had to buy their own copies.
You can go round and round about the significance of these books, separately or collectively, and your arguments do absolutely nothing to put a dent in AA. Happy kvetching!
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― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 10:42
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schools are different
Institutions of higher learning often require certain readings for the sake of an education - to make literary, aesthetic, philosophic points. Such is NOT the case in an industry of alcoholic folklore purchasing books by the dozens in each and every little home group around the world, or by the box full in every intergroup office in every city for the sake of dumping them into jails, prisons, and rehab facilites.
I wonder how many in jail have used the pages of big book to wipe their asses?
Anthro
becket
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:31
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Are you fearful for the poor
Are you fearful for the poor criminals whose minds might be altered in some way by what they find in the Big Book? We can't have criminals believing in God in this country - that would be wrong.
Wouldn't it?
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:36
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The "Big Book" isn't about god, it's about Bill Wilson
The "Big Book" isn't about god, it's about Bill Wilson and prospect hunting for the rehab industry and Alcoholics Anonymous at the Interchurch Center on 475 Riverside Drive.
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SandyB
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 07:17
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Readin's for queers!!!
They say
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:53
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Sandyb
Are you gonna be in Kansas City anytime soon?
I wanna kick your ass for that comment.
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flannigan
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 12:57
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88 books
The book "Alcoholics Anonymous" is a literary treasure. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.
alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:25
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Only Those Who Don't Think, Who Just Hate?
flannigan says: "The book "Alcoholics Anonymous" is a literary treasure. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise." Only those who don't think, who just hate? LOL!
JR Harris
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:29
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Or those that the cult didn't kill during brainwashing
Aren't you proud of yourself for joining a cult?

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alkieanon
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 23:03
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Takes A Licking, Keeps On Ticking
JR Harris asks: "Aren't you proud ...." Thinking about it....

Hrmm. Ahhh. Nope. Just glad to be alive and kicking.
Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 19:50
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I love JR's concept "canned hunts"....
I think that old song about old time religion should be rewritten to convey the real activities going on in the AA cult "cannned hunts"....lol....I'm gonna talk to my old dope smokin blues songwriter ...he loves writing songs about the cult....LOL
Anthro
live_free_or_die
Wed, 06/27/2012 - 17:12
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William Griffith Wilson's contribution to American Society
Thanks Bill W. We miss ya. Oh, hey Bill W., how is Boniface looking?
Another convicted rapist sentenced to AA
http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/351529/Another-convicted-rapis...
Man sentenced for rape committed in 1984
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17634482/ns/health-mental_health/t/man-sente...
Women who pleaded insanity set free
http://news.usti.net/home/news/cn/?/world.law/1/wed/be/Uus-woodry.Rwzx_F...
Girl kept detailed diary of rapes by mother's boyfriend
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/75915/news/world/girl-kept-detailed...
Hershey man chooses probation
http://www.northplattebulletin.com/index.asp?show=news&action=readStory&...
An ex-con enrolled in the state’s intensive supervision program (ISP) who was arrested March 7 on drug and weapons charges
http://www.nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2012/03/officer_visited_vineland_...
Police: Man pulled gun at church AA meeting, charged with assault
http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-southeasternpa/Police-Man-pulled-...
Lewiston man set to plead guilty to manslaughter in clock death
http://www.sunjournal.com/news/lewiston-auburn/2012/05/23/lewiston-man-s...
Red flags missed
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20101107_Red_flags_missed.html?id=106
2-year probation sentence for Mark Dickenson in menacing case
http://www.journal-advocate.com/sterling-local_news/ci_20587520/2-year-p...
Wilker sentenced to 8 years
http://www.westbranchtimes.com/article.php?id=8135
Woodbury Man Given 20 Days In Jail For Threatening to Kill Local Restaurant Manager
http://woodbury.patch.com/articles/woodbury-man-given-20-days-in-jail-fo...
Man indicted for stealing from senior he met at support group
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/port-clinton/news/2012/jan/20/man-indict...
'Risky' child rapist released from jail
http://www.mako.org.au/dexter_williams.html
Two dramatic U-turns for John Kalisz, accused in deadly Hernando County shooting rampage
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/two-dramatic-u-turns-for...
Woman Shot in the Head After Fight Spills Out of AA Meeting
http://www.thefix.com/content/woman-shot-head-after-fight-breaks-out-aa-...
'Thelma & Louise' suspect was poster child to Alcoholics Anonymous group
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/thelma-louise-suspect-poster-child...
Rapist Sentenced to 65-Year Term for Assaults on 17 Victims
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-26/news/mn-47_1_serial-rapes
Man sentenced to life for '07 rape, murder
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/6722292/article-Man-sentenced-t...
Governor shakes up Parole Board amid dispute over option for lifers' release
http://www.poten.com/NewsDetails.aspx?id=12485600
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
Anthro
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 21:20
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This forum is a wonderful thing.....
Some of us were so alone back in the 1980's and 1990's and now we have all these anti-cult blogs, forums, websites.....its a wonderful thing!
The word is spreading! The end of the cult is an idea whose time has come!!
Anthro
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 21:50
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One of the The most influential things.....
...the internet, that is.
Occupy AA
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
live_free_or_die
Tue, 06/26/2012 - 22:20
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Sent this blog post link to the Library of Congress
tonight.
Asked if Orange's online book can be put on the list.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
NoAAUK
Wed, 06/27/2012 - 04:22
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So how exactly did AA's Big
So how exactly did AA's Big Book shape America?
Is God removing America's shortcomings and giving it daily work orders enmass?
Is Amercia powerless over Alcohol?
Has the whole Nation done a collective step 5? And if so who was the other human being you confessed to....was it another whole Nation?
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11