AA's attempt to get the Gov't Invovled.
AA's attempt to get the Gov't Invovled.
Paragraph; The Lunacy of Alcoholism
http://www.silkworth.net/aahistory/billw2/clergy.html"
Perhaps a little more should be said about the obsessional character of alcoholism. When our fellowship was about three years old some of us called on Dr. Lawrence Kolb, then assistant surgeon general of the United States. He said that our report of progress had given him his first hope for alcoholics in general. Not long before, the U.S. Public Health Department had thought of trying to do something about the alcoholic situation. But after a careful survey of the obsessional character of our malady, this had been given up. Indeed, Dr. Kolb felt that dope addicts had a better chance. Accordingly the government had built a hospital for their treatment at Lexington, Kentucky. But for alcoholics - well, there simply wasn’t any use at all, so he thought.
Trisha says:
Even the US Govt would not touch the advance scientific study for alcoholics. My guess this was a polictical football for anyone wanting to touch it. To much money was involved, alcohol was legal, drugs were not. Alcohol was considered sociably acceptable drugs were dirty. You gave a drunk a ride home in the 1930's and you left the opiate user where he was.
"Nevertheless, many people still go on insisting that the alcoholic is not a sick man—he is simply weak or willful, and sinful. Even today we often hear the remark "That drunk could get well if he wanted to."
Trisha says:
Is it a coincidence or what? The members here on OPF say the same exact thing to the alcoholic today.
Oh, you're right w/o the "sinful" part.
This treatment facility in Lexington Kentucky was called; US Narcotic Farm http://www.asylumprojects.org/index.php?title=U.S._Narcotics_Farm
The atrocities that went on in this facility are legendarily among the survivors of treatment survivors. The Gov't, Military, CIA and Professors from leading universities used patients sent here as lab rats. For all kind of studies.
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Trisha K.
Sun, 06/17/2012 - 11:12
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The Narcotic Farm Documentary, Book and Film
The Narcotic Farm Documentary, Book and Film
Link to the The Narcotic Farm Documentary, Book and Film http://www.narcoticfarm.com/
"The Narcotic Farm: The Rise and Fall of America’s First Prison for Drug Addicts documents the visual history of this unusual federal prison set up to find a cure for addiction. Featuring more than 150 photos and images, culled from more than two dozen federal, state and local archives, The Narcotic Farm includes accompanying text by filmmakers JP Olsen and Luke Walden and Dr. Nancy Campbell, an associate professor of the history of science at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Published by Abrams in 2008."
Prison Culture
Nov 29 2010
The Narcotic Farms: Drug Treatment & Incarceration 1935-1975
http://www.usprisonculture.com/blog/2010/11/29/the-narcotic-farms-drug-t...
(excerpt from article)
"I am not going to comment on what Mr. Hanson had to share except to say that apparently everything old is new again…
About a year ago, I realized that despite my constant ranting about how the war of drugs was destructive and only serves to swell the ranks of prisoners, I actually knew very little about how drug addiction had been treated historically in the U.S. This led me to a documentary called The Narcotic Farm. For others who were similarly uninformed, I cannot recommend the documentary and its accompanying book more highly.
The film and accompanying book tell the story of how addition was treated in the U.S. between 1935 and 1975."
“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine
JR Harris
Sun, 06/17/2012 - 11:15
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What does AA have to do with Narcotics?
Why are you looking at AA under "Clergy", it's the wrong cult. You should be in the cult of NARCOTICS ANONYMOUS (NA).
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
JR Harris
Sun, 06/17/2012 - 11:27
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So when did AA start doing missionary trip?
You know, the "promotion", not "attraction" of searching for prospects behind bars in a "canned hunt?"
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
JR Harris
Sun, 06/17/2012 - 16:39
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Well there is no crab soup with sherry in it in Jail
Because alcohol is illegal to possess even in small quantities. In fact, drinking crab soup or chocolate mousse with sherry in it would be illegal and considered a relapse in any AA or NA group.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.