Al-Anon Promotion and Propaganda in Orihuela Spain - The gateway cult is expanding Internationally

Clara, people can't be "literally" addicted to people. You can't be serious. Anyway, you should check out an Alanon meeting sometime. I have a feeling you'd like it better than the AA meetings in El Paso. You'd fit right in.

No-one is saying there’s anything wrong with a “support group”, FFS. Clara’s shallowness, lack of insight, and obtuse denial is showing again (and as her husband has banned her from reading anything I write - hi, Vince - she won’t be offended when I say this). However, there is nothing supportive in telling people seeking help with a real problem that they also have a disease which can only be cured by buying into Wilson’s crackpot religion. Like AA, this is a cynical exploitation of people who approach the group unaware that they will be told that they are basically bad and diseased human beings because a person they have some kind of relationship with developed an addiction to a chemical substance.

Maybe people can be “addicted to people” in the same way that we are all addicted to air. It is a rare person who can survive without human relationships, and our species would have become extinct long before now if that was not the case. We would equally not have survived if we expected those around us to be perfect. Perhaps Clara is addicted to her husband and would register some distress if he dumped her for a younger, prettier AA member with a better quality of sobriety, even though she does believe he is suffering from an incurable chronic progressive disease and would therefore not be basically responsible. The only reason why anyone – even the trolls - post on here is because they are trying to make a connection with other people, get their voices heard by others, are trying to build a community, or are trying to provoke a reaction from other human beings, whatever their take on AA might be.

Al-anon pathologizes normal human feelings of love, humanity, loyalty, understanding, tolerance, forgiveness, etc. as a “disease” and an “addiction”. I guess, by their reckoning, new mothers are suffering from a “disease” as they are “addicted to” their babies, and anyone who falls in love or makes marriage vows promising to stick with their partner for better for worse, in sickness and in health, etc. is simply displaying signs of chronic co-dependency. What a dismal, depressing, anti-human, and life-denying philosophy.

Like AA, Al-anon could work well as a support group if it threw out the 12 steps and supplied some helpful practical advice, like referring people to local alcohol support services and/or encouraging them to explore outside agencies and methods that might actually have some proven track record in helping people understand and tackle addiction, instead of merely seeing them as recruits for their religion. But I guess in that case it wouldn’t be Al-anon, in the same way that AA would not be AA, and would not have AA’s problems and dismal failure rates, if it just stuck to being a support group.

Clara,
have to agree with Gigi, people can't be addicted to people. Also people who love alcohol & drug & cigarette addicts are not "sick" or "diseased" they are not "enablers" or "controllers", they are simply the people who love the addicts they are related to or are married to, partnered up, etc. @AA a sad situation, is the fat girl parade, the desperately lonely women who come to AA looking for a guy messed up enough to love them & need them, they seek current addicts, they didn't love someone before they became an addict. A mother carries a child for 9 months, gives birth, nurtures, cares for, would kill for that baby, anything, the love is so primitive, so powerful, the child becomes an addict, & a parent is supposed to listen & follow the Alanon nonsense & cut off communication with their child & let them hit rock bottom, nothing is more important than love & communication. Turning your back on your child when they are in pain & in the grips of an addiction, is the coldest response, it is unnatural. That's what Alanon is, it is unnatural, it was started by a sociopath Wilson to keep his wife Lois out of his hair & business @ AA meetings, nothing more, just another ugly & unnatural scam, created by narcissist Wilson. Alcohol addicts like every one else fall in love with someone, not someone that is going to save them, all this nonsense, is just AA & Alanon psycho babble & Billshit.

Roman Catholicism has had 2000+ years to fine-tune its rigid, unforgiving dogma and methodologies. I was raised a Roman Catholic and find no solace or solution in any Vatican edict. AA was a cakewalk in comparison.