In Step 7 does God remove shortcomings:-

Permanently
5% (1 vote)
Just till midnight
5% (1 vote)
Some other length of time (please specify)
0% (0 votes)
Not at all, step 7 is just BS like the other 11 steps
90% (18 votes)
Total votes: 20

Comments

JR Harris's picture

The cult claims that their is no cure, only a reprieve, "One Day at a Time" and you must struggle and chant Bill Wilson for the rest of your life in "recovery."

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

NoAAUK's picture

I think that Daily Reprieve is possibly the worst part of stepper indoctrination. Waking up EVERY day with the SAME imaginary problem. The problem becomes a new fearful obsession and the only answer we are told is to go to those awful meetings and fuel the obsession and fear even more. Is it any wonder there are so many AA suicides.

A woman had posted on a UK pro stepper recovery website that her daughter no longer wanted to go to stepper meetings, she just wanted to finish 'recovery' and move on, but she was in some kind of half-way house and she had to attend stepper meetings to remain in the property. Then some stepper guru told the woman she was in danger of killing her daughter if she encouraged her to stop going to stepper meetings. The post was then removed from the website as are all anti stepper posts.

This is why the Anti AA movement needs to grow, we have to put a stop to this type of cult coercion, its criminal

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

live_free_or_die's picture

Of course, that is my belief.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

NoAAUK's picture

Even if you believe in God, step 7 is a ludicrous concept.

Spiritual Growth is by its very nature a learning process, God removing shortcomings for steppers would be like cheating.

For those Evangelists who think this life is some kind of test to decide whether you are going to heaven of hell, God removing short comings, would remove the test.

Also if God is prepared to remove steppers short comings, why doesn't he just remove every bodies short comings. Then there would be no need to live this life we could just be created in and stay in heaven, because we would be perfect.

The 12 steps don't make any spiritual sense to me.......its just cult indoctrination

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

live_free_or_die's picture

NoAAUK said: "Also if God is prepared to remove steppers short comings, why doesn't he just remove every bodies short comings."

No shortcomings for anybody? Life just wouldn't be any fun if that were the case.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

"after midnight...we gonna let it all hang out....after midnight......gonna shake that taboreen"

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rainbow's picture

I just spit milk on my screen while eating my cheerios... You crack me up! :)

I got no god I got to beg favors from. Thankyou very much.

Understanding and Empowerment=Freedom