Can God miracle

you to STOP or MODERATE your drinking?
0% (0 votes)
you to STOP drinking only?
0% (0 votes)
neither you have to do it ALL yourself
100% (13 votes)
Total votes: 13

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I am greatfully free of any gods. Cause there aint no such thing. No gods no dogma no bullshit.

Understanding and Empowerment=Freedom

When I read/prayed the serrenity prayer line by line and reflected upon them, my obsession to drink was completely removed at that moment. After that it was clear to me that is was my choice if I drank or not. What happened is a fact. For a short time I was scared, I could either drink or not drink, it would have been easy to drink back then because I was no longer fighting it.

Pennywise's picture

1). God does not exist ;)

2). If God did exist and were all powerful, He could give you the ability to moderate.

3). The Xian God would have good reason to help you moderate since He supposedly filled His own son's veins with wine. At the very least He should make you unallergic to concentrated wine.

4). "Don't drink, do as you please." ~ Soberman

5). Merry Christmas.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

so much, drinking moderately is a privelage I have lost. For me, I might be acting like a spoil brat expecting to be able to moderate.

On the other hand, maybe I could moderate now and I'll give you that, but I'm afraid to try. Things are going better now and I dont want to take the chance. I dont totally trust myself with alcohol.

Merry Christmas to you too.

Pennywise's picture

That's cool. Nothing wrong with not wanting to take a chance if you are happy with things now. If it's not broke, don't fix it. I would never suggest someone try moderation just to prove AA wrong.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

best things to happen on Next Generation and Star Trek in general in my opinion.

Pennywise's picture

Have you seen the Next Generation episode "Hugh". I sort of look at that as a parable for leaving AA.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

You have some strong feelings on this. I read at the end Hugh was going back to the collective and Picard hoped that Hugh's individuality would spread throughout the collective. It sounds like you are not going back. I have learned some things on this forum. Lately I have noticed that in meetings many people believe they are still sick, even though I think they are fine. I have also noticed some people when they share, just spout off the AA party line. I have never noticed this until lately and it disturbs me. I was thinking about the guys I have sponsored and none of them act this way. I believe I used to.

Pennywise's picture

Yeah, you can't go against dogma in AA, or even have a discussion about it. It is very one sided without much intellectual stimulation. I personally find the program to be quite vapid. Reason is discarded in favor of blind adherence.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

live_free_or_die's picture

but vapid is another good word offered up.

Better descriptors of AA would be:

Irrational
Illogical
Deceptive
Destructive
Vile
Harmful
Magic
Delusional
Culty
Religious
Heretical
Dangerous
Absurd
Fucked up

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Thinking today about"Acceptance is the answer to all my problems."crapola.So,here i am.Hated by thai culture.So I should accept that all the time,whatever i say=ha hya .you dumbassed foreigner.Take this piece off and put a silver ring here.Dumbassed foreigner-it's fine.Don't need no stinking ring here,
.Or assert myself and explain again that want a silver ring put ehre.I am paying for it so do what I tell you to do.Control vs love.control vs real work.Lieing and stealing vs real work.Once upon a time,I read" I Pimp "by iceberg Slim."if I had worked to be a brain surgeon,it would have been less work,and i could have kept the money."Talking about stealing and lieing as work vs honest work.
When I offer someone help,I expect nothing,but hope there will be some gratitude.7 years and one person is thankful that after her motorbike accident,I cared for ehr needs for about 3 years.Yo says that i am a kind and a good person. But this is thailand.And people are still people but lack o education -why hell,I am racially superior,I don't need no stinking education.Gaslighting as a way of life.It's not black.it's dark blue. it's not 4 inches cause there's no more 2 inch wide elastic-nationwide.AA-BB Acceptance is the ANSWER???????? crap.AA solutions fail.
It seems that now we quit booze we can use 12 steps to escape from reality and hide in small rooms and others will help us to escape from reality.
NO GOD But why bother to find out.40 years.I have told thousands that if you want to see God-I know someone who can show you-your own soul.God inside of you.Don't really want to know,choice to believe.Not knowledge but belief.Hated in AA because i said the same thing.i have seen god and it's now AA.Inside of me is a light ,brighter than the sun.In the deepest darkness-I have to choose.Not so easy.
but I know that I have this choice.Never so easy to live in reality,but it's a choice.Noone wants that step 3.
AA is such hypcritical crap.I borrowed $50 from some guy.return it for me.Where does he live??I don't know.What is his name?I don't know.how can I return the $50??? But a 30 second prayer=surrender.
What pissed off Vinnie and otheres was that i refused to worship their diseased AA god.Now,i've got so many that are pissed off.Trying and trying to take control of my life away from me but failing.
That's where I have to have a clear resolve.Frail resolve,thin.weak and any excuse will do to stay lost,confused,angry pissed off..Over 1 million have seen,been given this gift and not one has ever paid one cent for this gift.But oh there's no God.ww.tprf.org. WOPG.org and there are the Keys.But do you want to see for your own self??not really.Easier to assume.Believe,The christian believes and the atheist believes.I chose to have knowledge.to see for myself.not an easy journey.But,I would not give this up for anything nor for anyone.Someone says-I can show you God.I can prove to you that God-not the God of your imagination,but the one who is keeping you alive,does exist.How he keeps going,it's about the love.
Nice park bench sign.maybe some changes will come.AA is so diseased but for now,it's about all that there is.Smart recovery=donate,donate,donate $$ ring up the cash.Siigned out of there already.Got a really good psychiatrist here.One of the good things about thailand.and someone that I love.Who needs me to help her.I know what it's like to be somewhat insane and how society treats those of us who have mental pain.I will not abandon her,but am forcing her to see the DR.My survivlal.I can't let her sickness destroy me.Gets to be damned lonely her so once in a while I post.Don't know that any of us will be friends.But there's some good that comes from reading what's posted ehre.

I SPY