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The good news is, you can be anything you want to be in AA. A writer, a flamenco dancer, a bank robber. I’ve met sober drug dealers and sober Oscar-winners. We’re nothing if not diverse, and to my mind, that’s one of the greatest blessings of the program. There’s a richness and breadth of experience in the rooms that’s unlike any other place I’ve been.
The bad news is, you can also be a sexual predator.
I got sober at 17. For all of my drinking and drugging, I was still pretty naïve. I had never had a boyfriend, I was a virgin, and I’d maybe kissed three boys ever. I was still a kid in all the important ways, except for the fact that I was a blackout drinker.
I thought young people’s meetings would be a safe place to clean myself up, but it turns out, not so much. Without knowing it, I was becoming a target.
Read more: http://www.thefix.com/content/sexual-predators-in-aa-10070
Persephone In Exile
Wed, 05/23/2012 - 08:35
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Check out the comments on it,
Check out the comments on it, JR. I feel like just posting links in response to half of them to just world fallacy articles. There is so much victim blaming going on it's almost at JIF levels....LOL.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Orange
Tue, 05/29/2012 - 13:23
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Thanks for the link. That's good.
And important.
And I agree that the A.A. defenders who try to blame the victims are crazy. It is both insane and immoral to try to blame a 17-year-old girl for getting deceived by a 30-year-old man who is pretending to be a mentor and counselor who says that he will help her to overcome her addiction problems.
becket
Tue, 05/29/2012 - 21:36
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Where are the parents? By
Where are the parents? By age seventeen this girl should have had the lowdown on boys and men. The parents are remiss in failing to prepare this young woman for the world. And if they dumped her into AA instead of dealing with her ignorance themselves, they are twice shamed.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Persephone In Exile
Wed, 05/30/2012 - 07:25
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Becket, I think this is why
Becket, I think this is why statutory rape laws exist in the first place. Plenty of kids that age would never really grasp it as it was happening. WTH though, why are you placing the blame on someone who wasn't the perpetrator here? For all the faults you might wish to heap on people here for blaming AA sometimes rather reflexively, you go out of your way to blame the victim to a degree that is indicative of that being a major problem for you.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
massive
Tue, 05/29/2012 - 20:52
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we are bigger then them now
we are bigger then them now HAHAHAHA. The anti steppers are outnumbering the steppers.
Massive
Free
Tue, 05/29/2012 - 21:51
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Becket, what if the parents
Becket, what if the parents/guardians of this girl are not responsible? Do we blame the girl? The predators are free to do as they please? No consequences?
patti
Wed, 05/30/2012 - 04:04
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Blame the victim, blame the
Blame the victim, blame the victim's family & parents. Blame the victim, that is the additional abuse heaped upon the initial abusive action, blame & deflect, it's all about the victim, her family or parents. Abusers always blame the victim, abusers always blame someone or something, the parents, abusers always deflect, it's never about the abuse, it's about the victim or their world. The victim's parents are not the issue, the issue is the abuser & the fact that abusers thrive in AA a playground for abusers, starting with the Big Daddy abuser & exploiter himself, Wilson.
patti
SandyB
Wed, 05/30/2012 - 04:33
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Not just blame the victim
But to say that the parents should teach their girls how to spot a sex offender is absurd. Men don'trape. Boys don't rape. Rapists rape. To say you're preparing girls to deal with sex abusers by teaching them about men and boys, is like saying you're teaching your boys about prostitutes by teaching them about girls
And, if you have a way of spotting sex abusers, by all means let the world know. There are forensic psychologists all over the world waiting for some indication
patti
Wed, 05/30/2012 - 06:08
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SandyB,
SandyB,
excellent post, please tell the world how to spot all criminals, what a great thing to teach & learn. One thing we have learned for real & can realistically spot is that AA is a dangerous cult.
patti