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LFD,
exactly, unless you say exactly what they want you to say & what they want to hear, you are in denial, not just telling the/your truth. Extremely destructive, & very controlling, I agree.

Only a matter of time till what, Persephone?

It's meaning has been altered by AA/NA, I believe is what she was getting at. And she is right. The redefining of common words is Cult 101.

I never got this one. You can resent people or institutions without that resentment really taking up much of your time, certainly not many of your thoughts. How on earth is resenting someone (or something) going to make someone drink or use again? It's such nonsense thinking.

Ascribe your feelings to everyone else. I don't seethe - simple. I just can't be bothered too. Lazy I suppose - it's just too much effort. If I get angry I tend to explode and apologise 5 minutes later. Friends laugh at me for it.

And when I tell you to "Fuck off", could it just be possible that I want you to fuck off - no seething involved?

I watched the insane bitch from the first minute she was on here. Every post dripping venom. PIE - I like your idea of the toxicity affecter her herself.

Not if your in any 12 step or Anon, it's not meaningless.

Yeah, in recovery world they mean this. It sort of goes back to what I was saying on a different thread, though. The end result in the program is to get people to blindly forgive any and every wrong perpetrated against them, i.e. people become willing doormats for the sake of their "sobriety". Having a resentment doesn't mean you become some seething and obsessed revenge fanatic like you see in so many films in real life, though. It helps people set up healthy boundaries so that they're not continually hurt by people who are frequently truly harmful to their well being. And you don't become a doormat! Like I said regarding the practice of turning people into constantly sharing self-centered drones, there's no dignity in being a groveling worm. Sharing everything that comes into your head and refusing to resent anyone else's abuse of you MIGHT keep you sober and clean, but is there any dignity in this? At all? Because I don't see it.

Do you think that resentments necessarily lead to something positive? I have Amish friends that strive to live without resentment and believe in forgiveness to a level I have not found elswhere. I don't think anyone needs to be an AA to see some benefit to attempting to live resentment free.

I remember when those children were shot by the gunman at their school. I read the remarks by the women as they left funeral after funeral... "He has already been forgiven." I am not so sure I could do that, especially that soon, but it is how they believe.

Resentment is not exclusive to the alcoholic. Anyone can experience it - even btnben, though he denies it ("denial" being another alleged "AA word" that did not have its origin in AA, by the way).

If one does not believe in God, and still suffers from resentments, then it is of his or her own doing that the resentments developed and festered. They are then solely responsible for managing the resentments. If the resentments do not go away, they might try working harder, pursuing an alternate path toward equilibrium.

If one does believe in God, s/he can work in tandem with that higher power to diminish or neutralize resentments. If the resentment do not go away, they might try working harder, pursuing an alternate path toward equilibrium.

Both plans are designed for the alcoholic and the non-alcoholic. After all, what else does one have left but to keep trying?

But it is also everywhere else, as I pointed out in a real example. The logic behind it isn't limited to AA.

You are also not using the correct search terms. The dangers of the cult of AA is all over the web, and it is growing exponentially. Switch to a new internet search engine........