This forum has a lot of people feeling sorry for themselves and claiming to be victims for being mandated to attend AA/NA by a court after committing a crime. The average American would say they got of lightly and should really be in jail.
Lets spare a thought for the real victims. Come on perps, what was your crime?
These people aren't complaining about being mandated to treatment, they are complaining about having their constitutional rights violated by being mandated to a religious program. This doesn't mean they believe they should have gotten off scot free.
What you are saying is "Just take having your rights violated and be glad you aren't in jail." Which is what people have been doing, which is why it has taken this long for people to try and stop mandatory sentencing.
Also, how the hell do you know what the "average American" would say? Aren't you an alcoholic/addict? How are you an average American? Did one of your American friends agree with this statement. Does that mean all "average Americans" do?
What crime was Omar Martinez in Baldwin Park mandated to AA for? You know, the 19 year old that just shot a pregnant woman in the back of the head after she picked up her husband from the meeting at the church no November 10, 2011.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
The last story I read on this event described the shooting, but not the name of the perpetrator. Did the meeting attendees violate this attempted murderers "anonymity"? All the more reason to attend a meeting with a bag over your head, and not say a fucking word-until the coercion card you are there on-gets signed.
This is a list of the raw recruits of Alcoholics Anonymous by the General Service Representatives (GSR) and District Committee Members (DCM) and the Corrections Committees they they chair. This group also represents a large portion of the 5% of members that Alcoholics Anonymous retains because they will go to jail instead. Why go out and risk being arrested on the streets, when you can be anonymously doing the same thing in church basements, where the members will not divulge who, where or what you have done, just like the 2011 incident of the members of the Twelve Hour Club in Lewiston Maine.
Are you proud of this list?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
"When you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous, find out all you can about him. " BB p.90, Working With Others
"Do not be discouraged if your prospect does not respond at once." BB p.96, Working With Others
Where AA trolls are concerned, anything you post, CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU in online forums.
Silly Steppers........................
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Spoken like a true Bill Wilson chanter and manipulator - try harder.
"You will soon have your friend admitting he has many, if not all, of the traits of the alcoholic. " BB p.92, Working With Others
"If your talk has been sane, quiet and full of human understanding, you have perhaps made a friend." BB p.94, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Sorry- this is an issue of crime and punishment. The average American would see a judge telling some low-life drunk driver to go to a few AA meetings as a major lapse in law and order. Where is the deterrent? Read this forum and you can see these perps have no remorse for their crimes- criminals bleating that they are the victims!!!
What about that kid that could have been run down?
Are you trying to say a little cult never hurt anyone? Are you admitting that people should be sent to the cult of AA as punishment? Do you think that AA should be the official religion of the US court system?
Silly little Stepper......
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Ordinary people, not the extremist looneys on this forum, think that sending a criminal to AA/NA as an alternative to jail, is a joke. The idea is rehabilitation- I can understand that. But when the perps claim they are being punished more- when really they are getting off lightly- when the criminals are boasting that they forge their attendance forms themselves- like aasux did- where is the rehabilitation? Just criminals laughing at the system.
Hallucinogenic flashbacks are a big problem and in the 1950's Bill Wilson was most likely suffering from them when he was living at Stepping Stones he conned out of the widow Helen Griffith, having an affair with Helen Wynn and talking to dead 15th century monks using a Ouija board.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Do you think that people outside of "the rooms" know that the courts routinely sentence criminals to AA? Perhaps you're raising this question in the wrong forum. How about making some noise about the problem in a more public way? Inform the average Americans who have no idea that criminals (not just duis) are being sentenced to AA rather than paying the full price for the crimes they've committed.
This is an issue of crime and punishment AND church and state-not one or the other.
"Alcoholics" should not be sentenced to church.
Violent criminals should not be sent to 12 step programs.
The courts shouldn't be sending ANYONE to AA.
Do average Americans know that in any AA/NA meeting there is a damn good chance that some vulnerable 19 year old fresh out of rehab could be sitting next to a violent offender who was sentenced to attend AA/NA by the courts?
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
Answer the question: What do you plan on doing with the information you gather? Do you have a noble purpose? Are you going to use the information to expose the courts for using AA as a dumping ground? Or do you simply want to feel superior to the "bleaters?"
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
I didn't ask that question on the poll that you linked because the author of that poll is quite up-front in stating her agenda. She is trying to expose crime in AA and working to make AA safer for those who choose to go there.
And, no, I am not under the influence of group think. I left AA to avoid that very thing.
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
My crime in AA was listening to guru's in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous that stuck around because they had to. They were recruited from jails and prisons and found out that if they followed the Spiritual, not Religious scripture of Bill Wilson they would stay out of jail. To do this I found out that often they were selling prescription drugs among themselves, did everything in their power to make a person relapse and get a drunk driving charge, cause street violence by pushing everyone's buttons, promoted domestic violence by trying to break up families, waited for people to relapse so they could steal from them whilst drunk, tried to make people hit bottom and make a fool out of themselves by being publicly drunk and a nuisance and any other type of lawlessness they could.
Which one of these crimes were you guilty of akirk?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
"When you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous, find out all you can about him. " BB p.90, Working With Others
"Do not be discouraged if your prospect does not respond at once." BB p.96, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
You aren't trying to do a 5th step are you? Your an acknowledged AA member and that is against the scripture. Shame on you.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
"Sometimes it is wise to wait till he goes on a binge." BB p.90, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
"This he may do after he gets hurt some more." BB p.95, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
It was worse, it happened in a church basement. It actually started in AA area 13, and because of legal problems had to move to AA area 44. I'll never forget that tattoo.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
If you notice, I am very meticulous at finding the truth. Oh learned it from the "Big Book" of Alcoholics Anonymous, aren't you glad I found it of some use? I actually have much more information, but I am waiting for the trial. Would you like me to map out your entire Intergroup, area and district? I may already have.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
I'm doing work-up - suitability assessment - for a database of cult stooge prospects and was wondering if you might fill in some gaps. Please answer the following questions:
1. You feel boastful pride in victimhood?
2. You feel silent shame for wrongdoing?
3. You work well with others, so long as they revere a paranoid worldview which accepts you (JR) as supreme?
4. You have sulky tantrums when the ice cream melts and drips out the cone?
Thank you. Truthful and elaborate answers to these questions will help in assigning you to the best fit cult which would most likely render you docile with contentment.
What do you plan on doing with the information? Wouldn't it make more sense to raise this question at you local AA meeting? Where you can confront and expose the perps face to face?
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
The perps who are bleating about being punished by the judge that sent them to AA - when everyone else would say they got off light- are on this forum acting like victims.
I went to the cult AA of my own volition. I was exposed to criminals, pedophiles, and conmen/women. Now I am free!!! Now I stay sober using HAMS harm reduction. If I believed in God, a loving God of my understanding would not restrict people to any one method of support.
Yeah, you get to watch silly steppers try to manipulate people. Find out your deepest darkest secrets, so the twisted manipulative minds of people who adore an adulterous, LSD taking prophet can take advantage of you and get their rocks off.
I have a mind to report them to their Sponsors, heck I'll go right to the top and tell their GSR's and DCM to quit taking them on hunting trips to the local jails and prisons. That'll fix them.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
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akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 03:29
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Victims
This forum has a lot of people feeling sorry for themselves and claiming to be victims for being mandated to attend AA/NA by a court after committing a crime. The average American would say they got of lightly and should really be in jail.
Lets spare a thought for the real victims. Come on perps, what was your crime?
Ironic
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:19
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False Dichotomy
This is a false dichotomy.
These people aren't complaining about being mandated to treatment, they are complaining about having their constitutional rights violated by being mandated to a religious program. This doesn't mean they believe they should have gotten off scot free.
What you are saying is "Just take having your rights violated and be glad you aren't in jail." Which is what people have been doing, which is why it has taken this long for people to try and stop mandatory sentencing.
Also, how the hell do you know what the "average American" would say? Aren't you an alcoholic/addict? How are you an average American? Did one of your American friends agree with this statement. Does that mean all "average Americans" do?
Don't make shit up, it is annoying.
live_free_or_die
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 21:11
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Jesus
Ironic - In a word, Perfect!
I could not have said it better. That's why I didn't. BTW, I am not average, but I am American.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
akirk
Fri, 11/18/2011 - 06:58
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Perp?
What was your crime Ironic?
JR Harris
Fri, 11/18/2011 - 07:21
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What crime was Omar Martinez in Baldwin Park mandated
What crime was Omar Martinez in Baldwin Park mandated to AA for? You know, the 19 year old that just shot a pregnant woman in the back of the head after she picked up her husband from the meeting at the church no November 10, 2011.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
istj04
Wed, 11/23/2011 - 08:38
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They caught him? How? Anonymty violated?
The last story I read on this event described the shooting, but not the name of the perpetrator. Did the meeting attendees violate this attempted murderers "anonymity"? All the more reason to attend a meeting with a bag over your head, and not say a fucking word-until the coercion card you are there on-gets signed.
live_free_or_die
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 20:57
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No Judge, No AA
http://www.non12step.com/articles/alcohol-treatment/no-judge-no-aa
For Professionals
http://www.non12step.com/help-for-you/program-basics
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
JR Harris
Sun, 11/20/2011 - 13:53
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This is a list of the raw recruits of Alcoholics Anonymous by
This is a list of the raw recruits of Alcoholics Anonymous by the General Service Representatives (GSR) and District Committee Members (DCM) and the Corrections Committees they they chair. This group also represents a large portion of the 5% of members that Alcoholics Anonymous retains because they will go to jail instead. Why go out and risk being arrested on the streets, when you can be anonymously doing the same thing in church basements, where the members will not divulge who, where or what you have done, just like the 2011 incident of the members of the Twelve Hour Club in Lewiston Maine.
Are you proud of this list?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 03:26
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A word of caution about AA Trolls from the Big Book
"When you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous, find out all you can about him. " BB p.90, Working With Others
"Do not be discouraged if your prospect does not respond at once." BB p.96, Working With Others
Where AA trolls are concerned, anything you post, CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU in online forums.
Silly Steppers........................
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 03:31
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What was your crime?
Dont be shy JR (are those scales of justice? appropriate), vote in the poll.
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 03:39
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Spoken like a true Bill Wilson chanter and manipulator
Spoken like a true Bill Wilson chanter and manipulator - try harder.
"You will soon have your friend admitting he has many, if not all, of the traits of the alcoholic. " BB p.92, Working With Others
"If your talk has been sane, quiet and full of human understanding, you have perhaps made a friend." BB p.94, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Dennis M.
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:03
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"Feeling sorry for themselves"???
This is an issue of seperation of church and state.
Dennis M.
"They are not at fault, they seem to have been brainwashed that way."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:39
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Church and state?
Sorry- this is an issue of crime and punishment. The average American would see a judge telling some low-life drunk driver to go to a few AA meetings as a major lapse in law and order. Where is the deterrent? Read this forum and you can see these perps have no remorse for their crimes- criminals bleating that they are the victims!!!
What about that kid that could have been run down?
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:46
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So they should be sent to the cult of AA as punishment?
Are you trying to say a little cult never hurt anyone? Are you admitting that people should be sent to the cult of AA as punishment? Do you think that AA should be the official religion of the US court system?
Silly little Stepper......
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:56
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Normal people
Ordinary people, not the extremist looneys on this forum, think that sending a criminal to AA/NA as an alternative to jail, is a joke. The idea is rehabilitation- I can understand that. But when the perps claim they are being punished more- when really they are getting off lightly- when the criminals are boasting that they forge their attendance forms themselves- like aasux did- where is the rehabilitation? Just criminals laughing at the system.
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:03
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Then why even send them? You just admitted it didn't work.
Hallucinogenic flashbacks are a big problem and in the 1950's Bill Wilson was most likely suffering from them when he was living at Stepping Stones he conned out of the widow Helen Griffith, having an affair with Helen Wynn and talking to dead 15th century monks using a Ouija board.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:11
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Dont
Dont send them, put them in jail.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:32
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What was your crime JR
???
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:24
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Average Americans
Do you think that people outside of "the rooms" know that the courts routinely sentence criminals to AA? Perhaps you're raising this question in the wrong forum. How about making some noise about the problem in a more public way? Inform the average Americans who have no idea that criminals (not just duis) are being sentenced to AA rather than paying the full price for the crimes they've committed.
This is an issue of crime and punishment AND church and state-not one or the other.
"Alcoholics" should not be sentenced to church.
Violent criminals should not be sent to 12 step programs.
The courts shouldn't be sending ANYONE to AA.
Do average Americans know that in any AA/NA meeting there is a damn good chance that some vulnerable 19 year old fresh out of rehab could be sitting next to a violent offender who was sentenced to attend AA/NA by the courts?
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:34
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Would the forum be here?
Alcoholics are not sentenced to church. Criminal alcoholics are sentenced to AA instead of prison.
Would this forum be here without court mandating to AA? Would most of the forum members be inside? Do prisons allow internet access?
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:37
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church
AA is church.
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:52
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Sentence
Were you sentenced?
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:27
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No
See how easy it is to give a straightforward answer?
Now you try.
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:30
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Well done
You may be in the minority however.
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:35
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Now you try
Answer the question: What do you plan on doing with the information you gather? Do you have a noble purpose? Are you going to use the information to expose the courts for using AA as a dumping ground? Or do you simply want to feel superior to the "bleaters?"
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:47
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Under the influence?
gigi =- why didnt you ask that question of this poll- http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/460
Are you under the influence of group think-
http://orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html#cq_group_think
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 15:32
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Easy answer
I didn't ask that question on the poll that you linked because the author of that poll is quite up-front in stating her agenda. She is trying to expose crime in AA and working to make AA safer for those who choose to go there.
And, no, I am not under the influence of group think. I left AA to avoid that very thing.
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:41
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My crime in AA was.........
My crime in AA was listening to guru's in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous that stuck around because they had to. They were recruited from jails and prisons and found out that if they followed the Spiritual, not Religious scripture of Bill Wilson they would stay out of jail. To do this I found out that often they were selling prescription drugs among themselves, did everything in their power to make a person relapse and get a drunk driving charge, cause street violence by pushing everyone's buttons, promoted domestic violence by trying to break up families, waited for people to relapse so they could steal from them whilst drunk, tried to make people hit bottom and make a fool out of themselves by being publicly drunk and a nuisance and any other type of lawlessness they could.
Which one of these crimes were you guilty of akirk?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:42
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Ive not committed a crime, I went voluntarily to AA
But are you innocent JR? Why did you go to AA?
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 05:58
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When you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous....
Why to you ask?
"When you discover a prospect for Alcoholics Anonymous, find out all you can about him. " BB p.90, Working With Others
"Do not be discouraged if your prospect does not respond at once." BB p.96, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:11
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What are you covering up?
Id like to know how many bleaters on this forum are perps
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:24
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For what purpose do you want this information?
You aren't trying to do a 5th step are you? Your an acknowledged AA member and that is against the scripture. Shame on you.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:32
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The reason I gave
Id like to know how many bleaters on this forum are perps
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:35
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Come on JR
What did you do? Was it one for the road?
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:41
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I'm not ready to confess yet.
"Sometimes it is wise to wait till he goes on a binge." BB p.90, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:49
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A perp wont talk
JR is not an innocent. Yet he often presents himself as a victim.
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:54
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I just can't talk about it I'm so ashamed.......
"This he may do after he gets hurt some more." BB p.95, Working With Others
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:09
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In court
Did that work with the judge?
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:18
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It was worse, it happened in a church basement
It was worse, it happened in a church basement. It actually started in AA area 13, and because of legal problems had to move to AA area 44. I'll never forget that tattoo.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:30
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Perps in AA
You write a blog highlighting criminals in AA here- http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/202
That makes you a hypocrite.
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 10:41
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I wrote much more than that Silly Stepper, that's what I do
I wrote much more than that Silly Stepper, that's what I do. Here is some more of what I have written about the Lewiston Maine incident:
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/07/15/aa-sponsor-protects-sponsee-who-co...
If you notice, I am very meticulous at finding the truth. Oh learned it from the "Big Book" of Alcoholics Anonymous, aren't you glad I found it of some use? I actually have much more information, but I am waiting for the trial. Would you like me to map out your entire Intergroup, area and district? I may already have.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
billybudd
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:08
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Hi junior!
I'm doing work-up - suitability assessment - for a database of cult stooge prospects and was wondering if you might fill in some gaps. Please answer the following questions:
1. You feel boastful pride in victimhood?
2. You feel silent shame for wrongdoing?
3. You work well with others, so long as they revere a paranoid worldview which accepts you (JR) as supreme?
4. You have sulky tantrums when the ice cream melts and drips out the cone?
Thank you. Truthful and elaborate answers to these questions will help in assigning you to the best fit cult which would most likely render you docile with contentment.
Signed,
Your mother
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 07:29
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JR
I dont think JR is answering any questions.
Ironic
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 17:35
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For the Record
My record is clean. Never been arrested.
gigi
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:36
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Why?
What do you plan on doing with the information? Wouldn't it make more sense to raise this question at you local AA meeting? Where you can confront and expose the perps face to face?
"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 06:51
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The perps are here
The perps who are bleating about being punished by the judge that sent them to AA - when everyone else would say they got off light- are on this forum acting like victims.
disclosure
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:13
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I was a Voluntary Fool
I went to the cult AA of my own volition. I was exposed to criminals, pedophiles, and conmen/women. Now I am free!!! Now I stay sober using HAMS harm reduction. If I believed in God, a loving God of my understanding would not restrict people to any one method of support.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:18
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Orange Papers
And now youre here. Not had much luck in life have you disclosure?
JR Harris
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:29
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Yeah, you get to watch silly steppers try to manipulate people
Yeah, you get to watch silly steppers try to manipulate people. Find out your deepest darkest secrets, so the twisted manipulative minds of people who adore an adulterous, LSD taking prophet can take advantage of you and get their rocks off.
I have a mind to report them to their Sponsors, heck I'll go right to the top and tell their GSR's and DCM to quit taking them on hunting trips to the local jails and prisons. That'll fix them.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
akirk
Thu, 11/17/2011 - 08:33
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Agent Orange
Here you are talking about our collective sponsor. Agent Orange- the LSD taking prophet, taking advantage of you all by Pay Pal.
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