485 U.S. 535 (1988)
TRAYNOR v. TURNAGE, ADMINISTRATOR, VETERANS' ADMINISTRATION, ET AL.
This case denied G.I. Bill benefits to veterans that claimed they missed the 10 year window of benefits availability due to drinking lots and lots and lots of alcohol (a/k/a alcoholism)
The Supremes ruled that the vets missed their deadline due to "willful misconduct".
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No. 86-622.
Supreme Court of United States.
Argued December 7, 1987
Decided April 20, 1988[*]
CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT
537*537 Keith A. Teel argued the cause for petitioners. With him on the briefs were Margaret K. Brooks, Catherine H. O'Neill, John A. Powell, Arthur B. Spitzer, Elizabeth Symonds, and Steven R. Shapiro.
Jerrold J. Ganzfried argued the cause for respondents. With him on the brief were Solicitor General Fried, Assistant Attorney General Willard, Deputy Solicitor General Wallace, Anthony J. Steinmeyer, and Robert V. Zener.[†]
JUSTICE WHITE delivered the opinion of the Court.
These cases arise from the Veterans' Administration's refusal to grant two recovered alcoholics extensions of time in which to use their veterans' educational benefits. We must decide whether the Veterans' Administration's decision is subject to judicial review and, if so, whether that decision violates § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, 87 Stat. 394, 29 U. S. C. § 794, which requires that federal programs not discriminate against handicapped individuals solely because of their handicap.[1]
538*538 I
Veterans who have been honorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces are entitled to receive educational assistance benefits under the Veterans' Readjustment Benefit Act of 1966 ("GI Bill") to facilitate their readjustment to civilian life. See 38 U. S. C. § 1661. These benefits generally must be used within 10 years following discharge or release from active duty. § 1662(a)(1). Veterans may obtain an extension of the 10-year delimiting period, however, if they were prevented from using their benefits earlier by "a physical or mental disability which was not the result of [their] own willful misconduct." Ibid.
Petitioners are honorably discharged veterans who did not exhaust their educational benefits during the decade following their military service. They sought to continue to receive benefits after the expiration of the 10-year delimiting period on the ground that they had been disabled by alcoholism during much of that period. The Veterans' Administration determined that petitioners' alcoholism constituted "willful misconduct" under 38 CFR § 3.301(c)(2) (1987),[2] and accordingly denied the requested extensions.
539*539 Petitioner Traynor sought review of the Veterans' Administration's decision in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. The District Court held that it was not foreclosed from exercising jurisdiction over the case by 38 U. S. C. § 211(a), which bars judicial review of "the decisions of the Administrator on any question of law or fact under any law administered by the Veterans' Administration providing benefits for veterans,"[3] because the complaint "requires us to examine constitutional and statutory questions and not merely issues of VA policy." Traynor v. Walters, 606 F. Supp. 391, 396 (1985). The court rejected Traynor's claim that the Veterans' Administration's refusal to extend his delimiting period violated the Due Process Clause and the equal protection component of the Fifth Amendment.[4] However, the court concluded that alcoholism is a handicap within the meaning of the Rehabilitation Act, and that the Veterans' Administration therefore had engaged in the sort of discrimination on the basis of handicap that is forbidden by that Act.
A divided panel of the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit reversed on the ground that § 211(a) barred judicial review 540*540 of the Rehabilitation Act claim. Traynor v. Walters, 791 F. 2d 226 (1986). The court reasoned that, while "many veterans have in the service of our country suffered injuries that qualify them as `handicapped individual[s]' for purposes of [the Rehabilitation Act]," Congress evinced no intent in enacting that statute "to grant to `handicapped' veterans the judicial review traditionally denied all other veterans" under § 211(a). Id., at 229.[5]
Meanwhile, petitioner McKelvey sought review of the Veterans' Administration's decision in the District Court for the District of Columbia. The District Court exercised jurisdiction over McKelvey's claims on the ground that § 211 (a) permits judicial review of decisions rejecting claims that Veterans' Administration regulations of general applicability violate a federal statute that is "completely independent of the complex statutory and regulatory scheme for dispersing veterans' benefits." McKelvey v. Walters, 596 F. Supp. 1317, 1321 (1984). The court then invalidated 38 CFR § 3.301(c) (2) (1987) as contrary to the Rehabilitation Act. The court ordered the Veterans' Administration to determine without resort to the regulation whether McKelvey had suffered a disability attributable to his own misconduct.
On appeal, the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit agreed that judicial review was not foreclosed by § 211(a), which was held to apply only to claims "resolved by an actual `decision of the Administrator.' " 253 U. S. App. D. C. 126, 130, 792 F. 2d 194, 198 (1986) (per curiam) (quoting Johnson v. Robison, 415 U. S. 361, 367 (1974)). The court found that no such decision had been rendered by the Veterans' Administration as to the validity of 38 CFR 541*541 § 3.301(c)(2) (1987) under the Rehabilitation Act.[6] On the merits, however, the Court of Appeals reversed, holding that the Veterans' Administration could consistently with the Rehabilitation Act distinguish between veterans who are at least to some extent responsible for their disabilities and veterans who are not.[7] With respect to alcoholism, this distinction could be effected by means of § 3.301(c)(2), said the court, because the Veterans' Administration could reasonably conclude that alcoholism is a "willfully caused handicap" unless attributable to an underlying psychiatric disorder. 253 U. S. App. D. C., at 132-133, 792 F. 2d, at 200-201. The court expressed disagreement with Tinch v. Walters, 765 F. 2d 599 (CA6 1985), which had invalidated the regulation in light of the Rehabilitation Act. See 253 U. S. App. D. C., at 133, n. 4, 792 F. 2d, at 201, n. 4.
We granted certiorari to resolve the conflicts between the Courts of Appeals as to whether Veterans' Administration decisions challenged under the Rehabilitation Act are subject to judicial review and, if so, whether that Act bars the Veterans' Administration from characterizing petitioners' alcoholism as "willful misconduct" for purposes of 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a)(1). 480 U. S. 916 (1987).
II
We must first consider whether § 211(a)'s bar against judicial review of "the decisions of the Administrator on any question of law or fact under any law administered by the Veterans' Administration providing benefits for veterans" extends 542*542 to petitioners' claim that the Veterans' Administration regulation defining primary alcoholism as "willful misconduct" discriminates against handicapped persons in violation of the Rehabilitation Act.
We have repeatedly acknowledged "the strong presumption that Congress intends judicial review of administrative action." Bowen v. Michigan Academy of Family Physicians, 476 U. S. 667, 670 (1986); see also Dunlop v. Bachowski, 421 U. S. 560, 567 (1975); Barlow v. Collins, 397 U. S. 159, 166-167 (1970). The presumption in favor of judicial review may be overcome "only upon a showing of `clear and convincing evidence' of a contrary legislative intent." Abbott Laboratories v. Gardner, 387 U. S. 136, 141 (1967) (citations omitted). We look to such evidence as " `specific language or specific legislative history that is a reliable indicator of congressional intent,' or a specific congressional intent to preclude judicial review that is `fairly discernible in the detail of the legislative scheme.' " Bowen v. Michigan Academy of Family Physicians, supra, at 673 (quoting Block v. Community Nutrition Institute, 467 U. S. 340, 349, 351 (1984)).
In Johnson v. Robison, supra, we held that the federal courts could entertain constitutional challenges to veterans' benefits legislation. We determined that "neither the text nor the scant legislative history of § 211(a)" provided the requisite "clear and convincing" evidence of congressional intent to foreclose judicial review of challenges to the constitutionality of a law administered by the Veterans' Administration. 415 U. S., at 373-374. In that case, the Veterans' Administration, acting under 38 U. S. C. §§ 101(21), 1652(a)(1), and 1661(a), denied educational benefits to a conscientious objector who had completed the required alternative civilian service. The claimant brought suit in the District Court, challenging those statutory sections on First and Fifth Amendment grounds. The District Court denied a motion to dismiss based on § 211(a) and gave judgment to the plaintiff. 543*543 Robison v. Johnson, 352 F. Supp. 848 (Mass. 1973). We agreed that § 211(a) did not bar the suit, but reversed the judgment on the merits. On the § 211(a) issue, we reasoned that "[t]he prohibitions [of § 211(a)] would appear to be aimed at review only of those decisions of law or fact that arise in the administration by the Veterans' Administration of a statute providing benefits for veterans." 415 U. S., at 367. The questions of law presented in that case, however, arose under the Constitution rather than under the veterans' benefits statute and concerned whether there was a valid law on the subject for the Veterans' Administration to execute. We went on to conclude that the principal purposes of § 211(a) — "(1) to insure that veterans' benefits claims will not burden the courts and the Veterans' Administration with expensive and time-consuming litigation, and (2) to insure that the technical and complex determinations and applications of Veterans' Administration policy connected with veterans' benefits decisions will be adequately and uniformly made," id., at 370 — would not be frustrated if federal courts were permitted to exercise jurisdiction over constitutional challenges to the very statute that was sought to be enforced. We noted that such challenges "cannot be expected to burden the courts by their volume, nor do they involve technical consideration of Veterans' Administration policy." Id., at 373.
The text and legislative history of § 211(a) likewise provide no clear and convincing evidence of any congressional intent to preclude a suit claiming that § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, a statute applicable to all federal agencies, has invalidated an otherwise valid regulation issued by the Veterans' Administration and purporting to have the force of law. Section 211(a) insulates from review decisions of law and fact "under any law administered by the Veterans' Administration," that is, decisions made in interpreting or applying a particular provision of that statute to a particular set of facts. Id., at 367. But the cases now before us involve the issue whether the law sought to be administered is valid in light of 544*544 a subsequent statute whose enforcement is not the exclusive domain of the Veterans' Administration.[8] There is no claim that the regulation at issue is inconsistent with the statute under which it was issued; and there is no challenge to the Veterans' Administration's construction of any statute dealing with veterans' benefits, except to the extent that its construction may be affected by the Rehabilitation Act. Nor is there any reason to believe that the Veterans' Administration has any special expertise in assessing the validity of its regulations construing veterans' benefits statutes under a later passed statute of general application. Permitting these cases to go forward will not undermine the purposes of § 211(a) any more than did the result in Johnson. It cannot be assumed that the availability of the federal courts to decide whether there is some fundamental inconsistency between the Veterans' Administration's construction of veterans' benefits statutes, as reflected in the regulation at issue here, and the admonitions of the Rehabilitation Act will enmesh the courts in "the technical and complex determinations and applications of Veterans' Administration policy connected with veterans' benefits decisions" or "burden the courts and the Veterans' Administration with expensive and time-consuming litigation." Id., at 370.[9] Of course, if 545*545 experience proves otherwise, the Veterans' Administration is fully capable of seeking appropriate relief from Congress.
Accordingly, we conclude that the question whether a Veterans' Administration regulation violates the Rehabilitation Act is not foreclosed from judicial review by § 211(a). We therefore turn to the merits of petitioners' Rehabilitation Act claim.
III
Congress historically has imposed time limitations on the use of "GI Bill" educational benefits. Veterans of World War II were required to use their benefits within nine years after their discharge from military service, while Korean Conflict veterans had eight years in which to use their benefits. See S. Rep. No. 93-977, p. 13 (1974) (letter to Hon. Vance Hartke from Veterans' Administrator Johnson). The delimiting period under the current "GI Bill" was raised from 8 years to 10 years in 1974. Pub. L. 93-337, § 2(1), 88 Stat. 292, 38 U. S. C. §§ 1712(b)(1), (2). In 1977, Congress created an exception to this 10-year delimiting period for veterans who delayed their education because of "a physical or mental disability which was not the result of [their] own willful misconduct." Pub. L. 95-202, Tit. II, § 203(a)(1), 91 Stat. 1429, 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a)(1).
Congress did not use the term "willful misconduct" inadvertently in § 1662(a)(1). The same term had long been used in other veterans' benefits statutes. For example, veterans are denied compensation for service-connected disabilities that are "the result of the veteran's own willful misconduct." 38 U. S. C. § 310. See also § 521 (compensation for disabilities not connected with military service). The Veterans' Administration had long construed the term "willful misconduct" for purposes of these statutes as encompassing primary alcoholism (i. e., alcoholism that is not "secondary to and a manifestation of an acquired psychiatric disorder"). See n. 2, supra.
546*546 "It is always appropriate to assume that our elected representatives, like other citizens, know the law." Cannon v. University of Chicago, 441 U. S. 677, 696-697 (1979). Hence, we must assume that Congress was aware of the Veterans' Administration's interpretation of "willful misconduct" at the time that it enacted § 1662(a)(1), and that Congress intended that the term receive the same meaning for purposes of that statute as it had received for purposes of other veterans' benefits statutes. See Sedima, S. P. R. L. v. Imrex Co., 473 U. S. 479, 489 (1985); Morrison-Knudsen Construction Co. v. Director, Office of Workers' Compensation Programs, 461 U. S. 624, 633 (1983); Bob Jones University v. United States, 461 U. S. 574, 586-587, and n. 10 (1983). In these cases, however, we need not rely only on such assumptions. The legislative history confirms that Congress intended that the Veterans' Administration apply the same test of "willful misconduct" in granting extensions of time under § 1662(a)(1) as the agency already was applying in granting disability compensation under § 310 and § 521. Specifically, the Report of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee on the 1977 legislation states:
"In determining whether the disability sustained was a result of the veteran's own `willful misconduct,' the Committee intends that the same standards be applied as are utilized in determining eligibility for other VA programs under title 38. In this connection, see 38 CFR, part III, paragraphs 3.1(n) and 3.301, and VA Manual M21-1, section 1404." S. Rep. No. 95-468, pp. 69-70 (1977).
The cited regulations include 38 CFR § 3.301(c)(2) (1987), the regulation that characterizes primary alcoholism as "willful misconduct." The Veterans' Administration Manual provision states, inter alia, that "[b]asic principles for application in deciding cases involving alcoholism are stated in Administrator's Decision No. 988," the decision on which § 3.301(c)(2) is based. VA Manual M21-1, change 132, subch. I, § 14.04c (Jan. 29, 1976). See n. 2, supra. These sources set forth 547*547 the criteria for determining whether a veteran's alcoholism is the result of "willful misconduct." These criteria therefore are among the "standards" that, according to the Senate Report, Congress intended to be utilized in determining eligibility for extended educational benefits.
It is thus clear that the 1977 legislation precluded an extension of time to a veteran who had not pursued his education because of primary alcoholism. If Congress had intended instead that primary alcoholism not be deemed "willful misconduct" for purposes of § 1662(a)(1), as it had been deemed for purposes of other veterans' benefits statutes, Congress most certainly would have said so.
It was the same Congress that one year later extended § 504's prohibition against discrimination on the basis of handicap to "any program or activity conducted by any Executive agency." Pub. L. 95-602, Tit. IV, §§ 119, 122(d)(2), 92 Stat. 2982, 2987, 29 U. S. C. § 794. Yet, in enacting the 1978 Rehabilitation Act amendments, Congress did not affirmatively evince any intent to repeal or amend the "willful misconduct" provision of § 1662(a)(1). Nor did Congress anywhere in the language or legislative history of the 1978 amendments expressly disavow its 1977 determination that primary alcoholism is not the sort of disability that warrants an exemption from the time constraints of § 1662(a)(1).
Accordingly, petitioners can prevail under their Rehabilitation Act claim only if the 1978 legislation can be deemed to have implicitly repealed the "willful misconduct" provision of the 1977 legislation or forbade the Veterans' Administration to classify primary alcoholism as willful misconduct. They must thereby overcome the " `cardinal rule . . . that repeals by implication are not favored.' " Morton v. Mancari, 417 U. S. 535, 549-550 (1974) (quoting Posadas v. National City Bank, 296 U. S. 497, 503 (1936); Wood v. United States, 16 Pet. 342, 363 (1842); Universal Interpretive Shuttle Corp. v. Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Comm'n, 393 U. S. 186, 193 (1968)). "It is a basic principle of statutory construction 548*548 that a statute dealing with a narrow, precise, and specific subject is not submerged by a later enacted statute covering a more generalized spectrum," Radzanower v. Touche Ross & Co., 426 U. S. 148, 153 (1976), unless the later statute " `expressly contradict[s] the original act' " or unless such a construction " `is absolutely necessary . . . in order that [the] words [of the later statute] shall have any meaning at all.' " Ibid. (quoting T. Sedgwick, The Interpretation and Construction of Statutory and Constitutional Law 98 (2d ed. 1874)). "The courts are not at liberty to pick and choose among congressional enactments, and when two statutes are capable of co-existence, it is the duty of the courts, absent a clearly expressed congressional intention to the contrary, to regard each as effective." Morton v. Mancari, supra, at 551.
As we have noted, the 1978 legislation did not expressly contradict the more "narrow, precise, and specific" 1977 legislation. Moreover, the 1978 legislation is not rendered meaningless, even with respect to those who claim to have been handicapped as a result of alcoholism, if the "willful misconduct" provision of § 1662(a)(1) is allowed to retain the import originally intended by Congress.
First, the "willful misconduct" provision does not undermine the central purpose of § 504, which is to assure that handicapped individuals receive "evenhanded treatment" in relation to nonhandicapped individuals. Alexander v. Choate, 469 U. S. 287, 304 (1985); Southeastern Community College v. Davis, 442 U. S. 397, 410 (1979). This litigation does not involve a program or activity that is alleged to treat handicapped persons less favorably than nonhandicapped persons. Cf. School Board of Nassau County v. Arline, 480 U. S. 273 (1987); Southeastern Community College, supra. Rather, petitioners challenge a statutory provision that treats disabled veterans more favorably than able-bodied veterans: The former may obtain extensions of time in which to use their educational benefits so long as they did not become 549*549 disabled as a result of their own "willful misconduct"; the latter are absolutely precluded from obtaining such extensions regardless of how compelling their reasons for having delayed their schooling might be. In other words, § 1662(a)(1) merely provides a special benefit to disabled veterans who bear no responsibility for their disabilities that is not provided to other disabled veterans or to any able-bodied veterans.
There is nothing in the Rehabilitation Act that requires that any benefit extended to one category of handicapped persons also be extended to all other categories of handicapped persons. Hence, the regulations promulgated by the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare in 1977 with regard to the application of § 504 to federally funded programs provide that "exclusion of a specific class of handicapped persons from a program limited by Federal statute or executive order to a different class of handicapped persons" is not prohibited. 42 Fed. Reg. 22676, 22679 (1977), promulgating 45 CFR § 84.4(c) (1986).[10] It is therefore not inconsistent with the Rehabilitation Act for only those veterans whose disabilities are not attributable to their own "willful misconduct" to be granted extensions of the 10-year delimiting period applicable to all other veterans. Congress is entitled to establish priorities for the allocation of the limited resources available for veterans' benefits, cf. McDonald v. Board of Election Comm'rs of Chicago, 394 U. S. 802, 809 (1969), and thereby to conclude that veterans who bear some responsibility for their disabilities have no stronger claim to an extended eligibility period than do able-bodied veterans. Those veterans are not, in the words of § 504, denied benefits 550*550 "solely by reason of [their] handicap," but because they engaged with some degree of willfulness in the conduct that caused them to become disabled.
Furthermore, § 1662(a)(1) does not deny extensions of the delimiting period to all alcoholics but only to those whose drinking was not attributable to an underlying psychiatric disorder. It is estimated by some authorities that mental illness is responsible for 20% to 30% of all alcoholism cases. Brief for American Medical Association as Amicus Curiae 7. Each veteran who claims to have been disabled by alcoholism is entitled under § 1662(a)(1) to an individualized assessment of whether his condition was the result of a mental illness.
Petitioners, however, perceive an inconsistency between § 504 and the conclusive presumption that alcoholism not motivated by mental illness is necessarily "willful." They contend that § 504 mandates an individualized determination of "willfulness" with respect to each veteran who claims to have been disabled by alcoholism. It would arguably be inconsistent with § 504 for Congress to distinguish between categories of disabled veterans according to generalized determinations that lack any substantial basis. If primary alcoholism is not always "willful," as that term has been defined by Congress and the Veterans' Administration, some veterans denied benefits may well be excluded solely on the basis of their disability. We are unable to conclude that Congress failed to act in accordance with § 504 in this instance, however, given what the District of Columbia Circuit accurately characterized as "a substantial body of medical literature that even contests the proposition that alcoholism is a disease, much less that it is a disease for which the victim bears no responsibility." 253 U. S. App. D. C., at 132-133, 792 F. 2d, at 200-201. Indeed, even among many who consider alcoholism a "disease" to which its victims are genetically predisposed, the consumption of alcohol is not regarded as wholly involuntary. See Fingarette, The Perils of Powell: In Search of a Factual Foundation for the "Disease Concept of 551*551 Alcoholism," 83 Harv. L. Rev. 793, 802-808 (1970). As we see it, § 504 does not demand inquiry into whether factors other than mental illness rendered an individual veteran's drinking so entirely beyond his control as to negate any degree of "willfulness" where Congress and the Veterans' Administration have reasonably determined for purposes of the veterans' benefits statutes that no such factors exist.[11]
In sum, we hold that a construction of § 1662(a)(1) that reflects the original congressional intent that primary alcoholics not be excused from the 10-year delimiting period for utilizing "GI Bill" benefits is not inconsistent with the prohibition on discrimination against the handicapped contained in § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act.[12] Accordingly, since we "are not at liberty to pick and choose among congressional enactments. . . when two statutes are capable of co-existence," Morton v. Mancari, 417 U. S., at 551, we must conclude that the earlier, more specific provisions of § 1662(a)(1) were neither expressly nor implicitly repealed by the later, more general provisions of § 504.
552*552 IV
This litigation does not require the Court to decide whether alcoholism is a disease whose course its victims cannot control. It is not our role to resolve this medical issue on which the authorities remain sharply divided. Our task is to decide whether Congress intended, in enacting § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, to reject the position taken on the issue by the Veterans' Administration and by Congress itself only one year earlier. In our view, it is by no means clear that § 504 and the characterization of primary alcoholism as a willfully incurred disability are in irreconcilable conflict. If petitioners and their proponents continue to believe that this position is erroneous, their arguments are better presented to Congress than to the courts.
The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in No. 86-737 is affirmed. The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in No. 86-622 is reversed, and the case is remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.
It is so ordered.
JUSTICE SCALIA and JUSTICE KENNEDY took no part in the consideration or decision of this case.
JUSTICE BLACKMUN, with whom JUSTICE BRENNAN and JUSTICE MARSHALL join, concurring in part and dissenting in part.
I join Parts I and II of the Court's opinion, for I agree that, under § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, 87 Stat. 394, as amended, 29 U. S. C. § 794, the "final and conclusive" language of 38 U. S. C. § 211(a) does not bar judicial review of petitioners' claims. Similarly, I acknowledge the legality (a) of the 10-year delimiting period imposed by 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a) upon veterans' educational assistance, and (b) of that statute's alleviation of the delimiting period in cases of disability except where that disability is the result of a veteran's "own willful misconduct."
553*553 My dispute with the Court centers in its upholding of the regulation, 38 CFR § 3.301(c)(2) (1987), whereby the Veterans' Administration (VA) presumes, irrebuttably, that primary alcoholism always is the result of the veteran's "own willful misconduct." This is the very kind of broad social generalization that § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act is intended to eliminate. The petitioners in these cases ask only that their situations be given individualized evaluation. Because I think this is what the Rehabilitation Act clearly requires, I dissent from the Court's conclusion to the contrary.[1]
I
Petitioner Eugene Traynor began drinking when he was eight or nine years old. He drank with increasing frequency throughout his teenage years, and was suffering alcoholrelated seizures by the time he was on active military duty in Vietnam. During the four years following his honorable discharge in 1969, Mr. Traynor was hospitalized repeatedly for alcoholism and related illnesses.
By the end of 1974, however, petitioner Traynor had conquered his drinking problem. He attended college part-time beginning in 1977, and continued working toward his degree until the 10-year period for using his veteran's educational benefits expired for him in 1979. Mr. Traynor applied for the extension of time available under 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a)(1) to one whose disability had prevented him from completing a program of education within the 10-year period. Because he was unable to establish that his alcoholism was due to an underlying psychiatric disorder, his condition was labeled "primary alcoholism." Pursuant to the regulation cited above, Mr. Traynor was presumed to have brought his alcoholism upon himself through "willful misconduct." The requested extension therefore was denied.
554*554 Petitioner James P. McKelvey also started drinking as a child. He was 13 when he began to develop the alcohol dependency that was common among members of his family. His drinking problem plagued him while he was in the Army, and he was hospitalized frequently during the nine years that followed his honorable discharge in 1966. Despite his disability, however, McKelvey managed, between hospital stays, to attend two educational institutions under the veterans' educational-benefits program.
Mr. McKelvey took his last drink in 1975, only a year and a half before his 10-year delimiting period expired. Like Traynor, McKelvey sought an extension under 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a)(1) on the ground that his alcoholism had prevented him from using, within the period, the benefits to which he was entitled. And, like Traynor, McKelvey was denied the extension because his disability, primary alcoholism, was conclusively presumed to have been caused by his "own willful misconduct." The VA's regulation deprived each of these veterans of any opportunity to establish that, in his particular case, disabling alcoholism was not willfully incurred.
II
The VA's reliance on its irrebuttable presumption that all primary alcoholism is attributable to willful misconduct cannot be squared with the mandate against discrimination contained in § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. Just last year, in School Bd. of Nassau County v. Arline, 480 U. S. 273 (1987), this Court explained in no uncertain terms that § 504 bars the generic treatment of any group of individuals with handicaps based on archaic or simplistic stereotypes about attributes associated with their disabling conditions. Instead, § 504 requires an individualized assessment of each person's qualifications, based on "reasoned and medically sound judgments." Id., at 285. In sanctioning the VA's irrebuttable presumption that any veteran suffering from primary alcoholism 555*555 brought the ailment upon himself through willful misconduct, the Court ignores the lesson of Arline, and the clear dictate of the Rehabilitation Act.
In these cases, the Court is called upon, not to make its own medical judgments about the causes of alcoholism, but to interpret § 504. That statute sets forth a simple rule:
"No otherwise qualified individual with handicaps . . . shall, solely by reason of his handicap, be excluded from the participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance or under any program or activity conducted by any Executive agency. . . ."[2]
It is beyond dispute that petitioners, as alcoholics, were handicapped individuals covered by the Act. See 43 Fed. Reg. 2137 (1978) (guidelines issued by Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (later the Department of Health and Human Services) reflecting the Attorney General's specific conclusion, 43 Op. Atty. Gen. No. 12, p. 2 (1977), that an alcoholic is covered by the Act); see also Brief for Respondents 33. Nor is it disputed that § 504 of the Act prohibits federal agencies, such as the VA, from denying benefits to petitioners solely because they are alcoholics. See, e. g., 38 CFR §§ 18.403(j)(1) and (2)(i)(c) (1987).
In 38 U. S. C. § 1662(a)(1), Congress declared that one whose disability resulted from "willful misconduct" is not entitled to the benefit of the extension-of-time provision. As stated above, the VA, by its regulation, has established an irrebuttable presumption that primary alcoholism is the result of willful misconduct. This presumption appears to be a clear violation of § 504's mandate requiring individualized 556*556 assessment of each claimant's qualifications. Arline, 480 U. S., at 287-289.
Respondents argue, however, that a case-by-case assessment of whether a claimant's alcoholism was the result of willful misconduct is not necessary for two reasons. First, respondents contend that Congress, in enacting the 1977 amendment (the extension-of-time provision, see 91 Stat. 1439) to § 1662(a), mandated a conclusive presumption that primary alcoholism is caused by willful misconduct. Second, respondents contend that the VA's determination that primary alcoholism always is due to willful misconduct is reasonable, and that therefore the presumption is not based on the kind of stereotyping that § 504 forbids. The Court today finds each of these arguments persuasive. In my view, each patently is without merit.
III
The Court explains:
"As we see it, § 504 does not demand inquiry into whether factors other than mental illness rendered an individual veteran's drinking so entirely beyond his control as to negate any degree of `willfulness' where Congress and the Veterans' Administration have reasonably determined for purposes of the veterans' benefits statutes that no such factors exist." Ante, at 551.
As I see it, § 504 demands precisely the inquiry the Court says is unnecessary. While Congress certainly has the authority to determine that primary alcoholism always should be attributed to willful misconduct, I find no support whatever for the Court's conclusion that Congress made that determination when it amended § 1662(a) in 1977.
The Court is correct, of course, see ante, at 546, when it says that we must assume that Congress intended the term "willful misconduct" in § 1662(a)(1) to have the same meaning it had been given in other veterans' benefits statutes. Indeed, the legislative history indicates that Congress did 557*557 "inten[d] that the same standards be applied as are utilized in determining eligibility for other VA programs under title 38." S. Rep. No. 95-468, pp. 69-70 (1977). If § 504 had not been amended one year later to cover specifically all executive agency programs, including the VA's benefits programs, see Pub. L. 95-602, §§ 119, 122(d)(2), 92 Stat. 2982, 2987, 29 U. S. C. § 794, there would be little reason to question the application of the VA's interpretation of the willful-misconduct regulation to § 1662(a)(1).
But the Court goes further and finds that Congress' reference to the VA's willful-misconduct regulation in amending § 1662(a) is a congressional adoption of the VA's rule. The Court transforms Congress' uncontroversial statement that the willful-misconduct regulation should be given the same meaning throughout the statutory scheme into a "specifi[c] determin[ation]" by Congress that primary alcoholics are presumed to have engaged in willful misconduct. See ante, at 551, n. 11; see also ante, at 547 (Congress' "1977 determination that primary alcoholism is not the sort of disability that warrants an exemption"); ante, at 548 (Congress had " `narrow, precise, and specific' " intent to exclude primary alcoholics in enacting § 1662(a)(1)); ante, at 551 ("original congressional intent [in amending § 1662(a)] that primary alcoholics not be excused from the 10-year delimiting period"). This magical transformation is the linchpin in the Court's analysis, for unless Congress itself actually took a position in 1977 endorsing the association of primary alcoholism with willful misconduct, the subsequent amendment of § 504 in 1978 to include benefit programs like the VA's would simply be read to impose new constraints on the VA's treatment of alcoholics. There is nothing whatever that is inconsistent about Congress' willingness, in 1977, to allow the VA to apply its own rules in determining which alcoholic veterans were entitled to benefits, and its decision, one year later, to require such determinations to comply with the antidiscrimination provisions of § 504 then being amended.
558*558 In order to escape § 504's requirements, the majority must conclude that in 1977 Congress defined a primary alcoholic as not "otherwise qualified," within the meaning of § 504, for the extension of time available under § 1662(a)(1). The language of § 1662(a)(1) itself merely establishes that a willfully incurred disability, as a general matter, does not entitle a veteran to the extension of time. And the Senate Report, upon which the Court exclusively relies, makes only passing reference to the relevant regulations — regulations which encompass the VA's entire policy on the applicability of the willful-misconduct provisions, not just the application of that term to alcoholism. Finally, even those portions of the regulations expressly addressed to alcoholism do not state that primary alcoholism is to be equated with willful misconduct. That interpretation is derived from a 1964 Administrator's Decision, which itself discusses the VA's irrebuttable presumption only briefly. Administrator's Decision, Veterans' Administration No. 988, Interpretation of the Term "Willful Misconduct" as Related to the Residuals of Chronic Alcoholism 1 (1964).[3] 559*559 See 37 Fed. Reg. 20335, 20336 (1972) (proposing regulation and announcing that it was intended to incorporate principles of the 1964 administrative issue).
Surely something more than two sentences quoted from a Senate Report should be required before we interpret general statutory language to conflict with the most natural reading of subsequent specific legislation. It is only the Court's strained reading of § 1662(a)(1) to embrace a congressional "determination that primary alcoholism is not the sort of disability that warrants an exemption," ante, at 547, that leads the Court to reject as a disfavored "implicit repeal" § 504's requirement that qualifications for the exemption be determined on a case-by-case basis. The " `basic principle of statutory construction that a statute dealing with a narrow, precise, and specific subject is not submerged by a later enacted statute covering a more generalized spectrum,' " ante, at 547-548, has no application here, where the earlier enactment is not narrowly or specifically addressed to the matter treated generally in the subsequent enactment: federal agencies' treatment of alcoholics. I have been no more successful than the VA or the Court in turning up evidence that Congress 560*560 expressly considered, or intended, in amending § 1662 (a), to adopt legislatively the VA's presumption that primary alcoholism always is attributable to willful misconduct. I therefore see no reason to defer to the VA's rule in interpreting a subsequent and entirely separate congressional enactment that the VA has not been empowered to administrate.
IV
I am reluctant to conclude that anything short of a congressional determination linking all primary alcoholism to willful misconduct could justify the VA's substitution of its generic rule for the individualized assessment generally required under § 504. It is conceivable that an agency legitimately could eschew individualized assessments of disabled individuals' qualifications if it were evident, as a matter of medical fact, that a particular disqualifying characteristic always is associated with a particular disability.[4] But it is not at all evident that an absolute correlation exists between the condition of primary alcoholism and the disqualifying factor of willful misconduct, as defined by the VA. Nor has the VA successfully demonstrated that such an absolute correlation is medically justified. The VA suggests that it is enough that "although the policy may not produce in an individual case the same conclusion another arbiter might reach, the VA policy provides a reasonable and workable accommodation of modern medico-psychological evidence." Brief for Respondents 35 (emphasis added). This position is unsatisfactory for several reasons.
561*561 A
The VA seems to suggest that generalizations about attributes associated with individuals suffering from a particular disability can be relied upon to assess those individuals' qualifications, as long as the generalizations are shown to be reasonable. But reliance on generalizations, even "reasonable" ones, is clearly prohibited under Arline. In that case, the Court ruled that § 504 prevented the Nassau County School Board from generalizing about the contagiousness of tuberculosis. 480 U. S., at 281-286. Acknowledging that in some cases contagiousness would justify altering or perhaps terminating a tuberculosis sufferer's employment in order to avoid infecting others, id., at 287, n. 16, the Court nevertheless found impermissible a generalization built on that less-than-perfect correlation between disability and qualification. The Court explained:
"The fact that some persons who have contagious diseases may pose a serious health threat to others under certain circumstances does not justify excluding from the coverage of the Act all persons with actual or perceived contagious diseases. Such exclusion would mean that those accused of being contagious would never have the opportunity to have their condition evaluated in light of medical evidence and a determination made as to whether they were `otherwise qualified.' Rather, they would be vulnerable to discrimination on the basis of mythology — precisely the type of injury Congress sought to prevent." Id., at 285 (emphasis in original).
The myth to which the Court was referring was not that some tuberculosis sufferers were contagious, but that they all were. The parallel myth in the present cases, of course, is that all primary alcoholics became disabled as a result of their own willful misconduct. Just as § 504 entitles each person suffering from tuberculosis to an individualized determination, based on sound medical evidence, as to whether 562*562 that person is contagious and therefore not "otherwise qualified" for a job, 29 U. S. C. § 794, the statute entitles each alcoholic veteran to an individualized determination, based on the medical evidence in his own case, of the causes of his disability. If this individualized assessment leads the adjudicator to conclude that the particular veteran's alcoholism was brought on by willful misconduct, that veteran will have been adjudicated to be not "otherwise qualified" to collect the education benefits. But only after this individualized inquiry has been conducted, can the VA deprive him of benefits available to all whose disabilities were not caused by willful misconduct.
B
The VA's attempt to justify its reliance upon the irrebuttable presumption that primary alcoholism is caused by willful misconduct is further undermined by the meagerness of the medical support it summons. Nothing in the record suggests that the VA based its continuing reliance on the presumption, after § 504 was amended, on any factual findings of the kind found to be required in Arline. And its post hoc rationalization of that reliance in this litigation consists of a hodgepodge of medical conclusions, some of only marginal relevance. For example, the VA relies upon the comments of a number of "medical writers" who note that "volition plays a significant role" in the treatment of alcoholism. See Brief for Respondents 43; see id., at 45-46, and nn. 32 and 33, citing, among others, G. Vaillant, The Natural History of Alcoholism 299 (1983), and S. Zimberg, The Clinical Management of Alcoholism 67-69, 118 (1982). While cure and cause are likely to be somewhat related, the fact that alcoholism is "highly treatable, but . . . will require great responsibility from the patient," G. Vaillant, supra, at 299, provides little assistance in assessing whether the original onset of the disability can always be ascribed to willful misconduct.
In contrast, ample evidence supports petitioners' contrary contention that the degree of willfulness associated with the 563*563 onset of alcoholism varies from case to case. Recent medical research indicates that the causes of primary alcoholism[5] are varied and complex, only some of which conceivably could be attributed to a veteran's will.[6] Indeed, even the VA acknowledges that "alcoholism is not a unitary condition [but rather] has multiple forms and ranges of severity." Brief for Respondents 34, and nn. 21, 22, citing, among others, Bohman, Sigvardsson, & Cloninger, Maternal Inheritance of Alcohol Abuse: Cross-Fostering Analysis of Adopted Women, 38 Archives Gen. Psychiatry 965, 968 (1981) (describing genetically different types of alcoholism, each producing a different form of the condition); Cloninger, Bohman, & Sigvardsson, Inheritance of Alcohol Abuse: Cross-Fostering Analysis of Adopted Men, 38 Archives Gen. Psychiatry 861, 867 (1981) (identifying two types of alcohol abuse with different genetic and environmental causes); G. Vaillant, supra, at 17 ("[A]lcohol abuse reflects a multidetermined continuum of drinking behaviors 564*564 whose determinants are differently weighted for different people and include culture, habits, social mores, and genes"). A sensitivity to this case-to-case variation is precisely what § 504 requires of employers and federal agencies in their assessments of the qualifications for employment or benefits of an individual with handicaps. As the medical community's understanding of the causes of alcoholism continues to develop, § 504 requires the VA to take these new developments into account in making "sound medical judgments" about the source of a particular veteran's alcoholism.[7] Presumably, evidence concerning the circumstances surrounding a veteran's development of alcohol dependence — including his age, home environment, and psychological health[8] — always will be relevant to this assessment.
C
Finally, in asserting that its automatic association of primary alcoholism with willful misconduct is supported by medical evidence, the VA adopts, perhaps for purposes of this litigation alone, a definition of willful misconduct which is inconsistent with the definition articulated in the VA's own regulations and practices. According to the VA, primary alcoholism is appropriately attributed to willful misconduct because medical evidence suggests that "many alcoholics are not completely helpless," in controlling their disability. Brief for Respondents 47 (emphasis added). But a "not completely helpless" test is not the standard the VA has established 565*565 for determining whether other disabilities are incurred willfully.
The VA defines willful misconduct as "an act involving conscious wrongdoing or known prohibited action," 38 CFR § 3.1(n) (1987), and "the intentional doing of something either with the knowledge that it is likely to result in serious injury or with a wanton and reckless disregard of its probable consequences." VA Manual M21-1, change 239, subch. I, § 14.04a (Aug. 21, 1979).[9] This definition of willful misconduct is a far cry from a "not completely helpless" standard. While some primary alcoholics may well owe their disability to willful misconduct, as delineated by the regulation, the VA has failed to demonstrate that all primary alcoholics had any awareness that their initial drinking was likely to result in serious injury. Nor, in many cases, would it be appropriate to describe one's gradual development of alcohol dependency as evidence of "wanton and reckless disregard of [drinking's] probable consequences." Indeed, I wonder how one meaningfully can ascribe such intent and appreciation of long-range consequences to a 9- or 13-year-old boy who follows the lead of his adult role models in taking his first drinks.[10]
The awkwardness of attributing all primary alcoholism to willful misconduct is made apparent in the Administrator's Decision No. 988, which elaborates on the meaning of the term in the context of explaining why the VA does not bar recovery for those suffering organic secondary effects of the continued use of alcohol:
566*566 "[The] development of the secondary condition does not meet the definition of intentional wrongdoing with knowledge or wanton disregard of its probable consequences. Secondary results are not the usual and probable effects of drinking alcohol as a beverage. By the time there is sufficient awareness of any probable deleterious consequences, the process has developed to a point where it is irreversible without professional help. At such time, the person by himself, may lack the capacity to avoid the continued use of alcohol. While it is proper to hold a person responsible for the direct and immediate results of indulgence in alcohol, it cannot be reasonably said that he expects and wills the disease and disabilities which sometimes appear as secondary effects." Decision No. 988, p. 2 (1964) (emphasis in original).
All of this surely can be said of some primary alcoholics, whose drinking begins innocently enough and who feel only much later the effects of a dependency so disabling that it requires repeated hospitalization.
Individuals suffering from a wide range of disabilities, including heart and lung disease and diabetes, usually bear some responsibility for their conditions. And the conduct that can lead to this array of disabilities, particularly dietary and smoking habits, is certainly no less voluntary than the consumption of alcohol. Nevertheless, the VA has expressed an unwillingness to extend the definition of willful misconduct to all voluntary conduct having some relation to the development of a disability. In justifying the exclusion of secondary organic effects of alcoholism, such as cirrhosis of the liver, from the reach of the willful-misconduct presumption, the VA has explained:
"[H]istorically, the question of willful misconduct has never been raised in other related situations where personal habits or neglect are possible factors in the incurrence of disability. For example, the harmful effects of tobacco smoking on circulation and respiration were 567*567 known long before tobacco was incriminated as a causative factor in the high incidence of cancer, emphysema and heart disease. Yet smoking has not been considered misconduct. It is unreasonable and illogical to apply one set of rules with respect to alcohol and a different one in a situation closely analogous." Ibid.
In deferring to the VA's "reasonable" determination that all primary alcoholism is attributable to willful misconduct, the Court obscures the meaning of "willful misconduct" in a similar fashion. The Court discusses the propriety of denying benefits to those who "bear some responsibility for their disabilities," and suggests that the attribution of all primary alcoholism to willful misconduct is justified because "the consumption of alcohol is not regarded as wholly involuntary." Ante, at 549, 550. The degree of personal responsibility for their disability attributed to alcoholics by the VA in its brief and echoed by the Court in its opinion is clearly not of the magnitude contemplated by the VA's general definition of willful misconduct.
V
Section 504 guarantees Eugene Traynor and James P. McKelvey federal benefits absent a demonstration that they, as individuals, fail to satisfy the legitimate qualifications Congress has imposed upon receipt of those benefits. The VA has failed to demonstrate that any legislative or medical determinations justify its conclusive presumption that Mr. Traynor's and Mr. McKelvey's alcoholism was incurred willfully. Both cases therefore should be remanded to the VA for individualized determinations, based on "sound medical judgments" whether these men are "otherwise qualified" to receive veterans' educational benefits beyond the 10-year period.
I dissent.
[*] Together with No. 86-737, McKelvey v. Turnage, Administrator of Veterans' Affairs, et al., on certiorari to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.
[†]Elizabeth Bartholet filed a brief for the National Council on Alcoholism, Inc., as amicus curiae urging reversal in both cases.
Briefs of amici curiae were filed in both cases for the American Medical Association et al. by Benjamin W. Heineman, Jr., Carter G. Phillips, and Joel I. Klein; and for Vietnam Veterans of America by Samuel M. Sipe, Jr., and Barton F. Stichman.
[1] Section 504, 29 U. S. C. § 794, provides, in pertinent part, that "[n]o otherwise qualified handicapped individual . . . shall, solely by reason of his handicap, be excluded from the participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance or under any program or activity conducted by any Executive agency."
[2] The applicable regulation, 38 CFR § 3.301(c)(2) (1987), provides:
"Alcoholism: The simple drinking of alcoholic beverage is not of itself willful misconduct. The deliberate drinking of a known poisonous substance or under conditions which would raise a presumption to that effect will be considered willful misconduct. If, in the drinking of a beverage to enjoy its intoxicating effects, intoxication results proximately and immediately in disability or death, the disability or death will be considered the result of the person's willful misconduct. Organic diseases and disabilities which are a secondary result of the chronic use of alcohol as a beverage, whether out of compulsion or otherwise, will not be considered of willful misconduct origin."
This regulation was intended by the Veterans' Administration to incorporate the principles of a 1964 administrative decision. 37 Fed. Reg. 20335, 20336 (1972) (proposed regulation); 37 Fed. Reg. 24662 (1972) (final regulation). The 1964 decision provided that alcoholism that is "secondary to and a manifestation of an acquired psychiatric disorder" would not be characterized as willful misconduct. Administrator's Decision, Veterans' Administration No. 988, Interpretation of the Term "Willful Misconduct" as Related to the Residuals of Chronic Alcoholism, Aug. 13, 1964, App. 142-143. The Veterans' Administration refers to this type of alcoholism as "secondary," and to alcoholism unrelated to an underlying psychiatric disorder as "primary." See ibid.; Veterans' Administration Manual M21-1, change 149, subch. XI, § 50.32 (Dec. 23, 1979) (hereinafter VA Manual). Petitioners were found to have suffered from primary alcoholism.
[3] Title 38 U. S. C. § 211(a) provides, in pertinent part:
"[T]he decision of the Administrator on any question of law or fact under any law administered by the Veterans' Administration providing benefits for veterans and their dependents or survivors shall be final and conclusive and no other official or any court of the United States shall have power or jurisdiction to review any such decision by an action in the nature of mandamus or otherwise."
[4] Petitioners have not raised constitutional claims before this Court.
[5] The dissent maintained that § 211(a) was inapplicable both because the Rehabilitation Act neither provides benefits to veterans nor is administered by the Veterans' Administration and because the Administrator had not issued a decision as to whether the challenged regulation violated that Act. 791 F. 2d, at 232. Neither the majority nor the dissent reached the merits of Traynor's Rehabilitation Act claim.
[6] The court acknowledged that the Veterans' Administration had decided the Rehabilitation Act issue while the case was on appeal. However, the court held that "Section 211(a)'s application is to be determined firmly and finally as of the date that plaintiff commences litigation." 253 U. S. App. D. C., at 131, 792 F. 2d, at 199. Otherwise, the court reasoned, "[t]he agency could allow a challenge to its action to proceed in the district court secure in the knowledge that if the VA lost there, it could retroactively shield the action from judicial review." Ibid.
[7] The panel was divided on both the jurisdictional issue and the merits.
[8] The President has designated the Department of Justice as the federal agency responsible for coordinating and enforcing § 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. Exec. Order No. 12250, 3 CFR 298 (1981).
[9] Indeed, petitioners submit that, in the four Circuits that have held that § 211(a) does not bar judicial review of statutory challenges to Veterans' Administration regulations, only eight such challenges have been filed. See Brief for Petitioners 46-47, n. 32 (citing American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO v. Nimmo, 711 F. 2d 28 (CA4 1983); Plato v. Roudebush, 397 F. Supp. 1295 (Md. 1975); Tinch v. Walters, 573 F. Supp. 346 (ED Tenn. 1983), aff'd, 765 F. 2d 599 (CA6 1985); Taylor v. United States, 385 F. Supp. 1035 (ND Ill. 1974), vacated and remanded, 528 F. 2d 60 (CA7 1976); Arnolds v. Veterans' Administration, 507 F. Supp. 128 (ND Ill. 1981); Burns v. Nimmo, 545 F. Supp. 544 (Iowa 1982); Waterman v. Cleland, No. 4-77-Civ. 70 (Minn., Oct. 24, 1978)).
[10] We have previously recognized that the regulations promulgated by the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (later the Department of Health and Human Services) to implement the Rehabilitation Act "were drafted with the oversight and approval of Congress," School Board of Nassau County v. Arline, 480 U. S. 273, 279 (1987), and therefore constitute " `an important source of guidance on the meaning of § 504.' " Ibid. (quoting Alexander v. Choate, 469 U. S. 287, 304, n. 24 (1985)).
[11] Our decision in School Board of Nassau County v. Arline, supra, is not to the contrary. In Arline, we recognized that the district courts should "in most cases" undertake an individualized inquiry into whether a handicapped person has been denied a job for which he is otherwise qualified. 480 U. S., at 287. In contrast to the instant case, Arline did not involve a handicapping condition as to which Congress had specifically determined that no individualized inquiry was necessary. We might well have reached a different conclusion in Arline had the employer relied on a congressional determination supported by substantial medical evidence that all employees suffering from acute tuberculosis pose a serious health threat to others in the workplace.
[12] If the position urged by the dissent were to prevail, the Veterans' Administration would be hard put to avoid making an individualized determination as to whether a veteran's alcoholism is sufficiently "willful" to disqualify him from disability compensation under §§ 310 and 521. Such a requirement would saddle the Government with additional administrative and financial burdens that Congress could not have contemplated in extending § 504 to federal programs.
[1] It perhaps is worth noting that, despite much comment in the popular press, these cases are not concerned with whether alcoholism, simplistically, is or is not a "disease."
[2] Section 103(d)(2)(B) of the Rehabilitation Act Amendments of 1986, 100 Stat. 1810, struck the words "handicapped individual" wherever they appeared in the 1973 Act and replaced them with the words "individual with handicaps." See H. R. Rep. No. 99-571, p. 17 (1986). Section 504, as quoted in the text above, embraces the change effected by this 1986 amendment.
[3] The regulation provides:
"If, in the drinking of a beverage to enjoy its intoxicating effects, intoxication results proximately and immediately in disability or death, the disability or death will be considered the result of the person's willful misconduct. Organic diseases and disabilities which are a secondary result of the chronic use of alcohol as a beverage, whether out of compulsion or otherwise, will not be considered of willful misconduct origin." 38 CFR § 3.301(c)(2) (1987).
On its face, the regulation does not appear to address the condition of alcoholism itself, despite the fact that the paragraph of the regulation, of which the above-quoted material is a part, bears the title "Alcoholism." The condition of alcohol dependency is neither an immediate effect of drinking, nor a secondary organic disability resulting from the chronic use of alcohol. Alcoholism seems to fall between the two categories set out in the regulation; it is the condition of being a chronic alcohol user.
The Administrator's Decision from which the VA's irrebuttable presumption is derived focuses on this same distinction: "The proximate and immediate effects consisting of disabling injuries or death resulting from a state of intoxication" are to be deemed willful misconduct, but the "remote, organic secondary effects of the continued use of alcohol resulting in impairment of body organs or systems leading to disability or death" are not to be so deemed. Administrator's Decision, No. 988, p. 1. The Decision, however, also includes two sentences from which the VA derives its current interpretation of the willful-misconduct regulation:
"In misconduct determinations, however, with respect to mental disorders where the use of alcohol as a beverage has been involved, a distinction has heretofore been recognized between alcoholism as a primary condition (or as secondary to an underlying personality disorder), and alcoholism as secondary to and a manifestation of an acquired psychiatric disorder. If the latter condition is found the resulting disability or death is not to be considered as willful misconduct." Ibid.
While the VA's interpretation of its own regulation and its antecedents would have been entitled to deference, see United States v. Larionoff, 431 U. S. 864, 872 (1977), Congress cannot be presumed to have codified this less-than-apparent interpretation by a mere reference to the relevant regulations.
[4] For example, a blind person, by definition, cannot see. While the Rehabilitation Act does not expressly recognize the absolute correlation between the qualification of seeing and the condition of blindness, it seems appropriate for an employer to rely on that absolute correlation in making certain hiring decisions. Presumably, an employer subject to § 504 could refuse to hire blind individuals for jobs clearly requiring sighted employees without first conducting an individualized assessment of each blind applicant's qualifications.
[5] The American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association (AMA/APA) and the National Council on Alcoholism, Inc. (NCA), emphasize in their respective amicus briefs that the primary/secondary distinction is a crude one. A diagnosis of alcoholism as primary or secondary may depend as much on the nature of the facility in which the diagnosis is made as it does on the alcoholic's true clinical history. See Brief for NCA as Amicus Curiae 18-19, n. 9. The primary/secondary distinction is particularly difficult to apply to an alcoholic who, like petitioners, began drinking as a child before underlying psychiatric disorders could be diagnosed. See Brief for AMA/APA as Amici Curiae 7. AMA/APA also emphasizes that the distinction between the two kinds of alcoholism was developed, and is properly used, only for treatment purposes and reveals little about the degree of willfulness involved in the onset of the alcoholism. Id., at 5.
[6] Notable among the studies are those that suggest that heredity plays a significant role in the development of primary, but not secondary, alcoholism. See, e. g., Schuckit, Genetic Aspects of Alcoholism, 15 Annals Emergency Medicine 991, 992 (1986). Some evidence suggests that the genetic predisposition to alcoholism can be attributed to a biochemical abnormality that prevents proper metabolism of alcohol. See App. 44 (affidavit of Dr. Anne Geller). From this it would appear that there may be a more purely physiological explanation for the onset of some cases of primary alcoholism than there is for most cases of secondary alcoholism.
[7] In light of this Court's emphasis in School Bd. of Nassau County v. Arline, 480 U. S. 273 (1987), on the importance of basing assessments of a person's qualifications on sound medical evidence, it is difficult to understand the VA's suggestion that "citations to the medical literature circa 1987" are not of great relevance to an analysis of § 504's application. See Brief for Respondents 26.
[8] AMA/APA notes that there is often a "psychological component in the development of alcoholism" which may not "rise to the level of psychiatric disorders." Brief for AMA/APA as Amici Curiae 6.
[9] Outside the alcoholism context, the Board of Veterans Appeals has found willful misconduct when, for example, a veteran "placed [a] gun to his head and pulled the trigger," No. 86-22-350 (Mar. 23, 1987); or intentionally put his arm through window glass, No. 85-31-331 (Feb. 14, 1986); or attempted to ride his motorcycle on one wheel, No. 84-33-060 (May 13, 1985); or engaged in an altercation, No. 81-10-510 (June 12, 1981); or drove about 100 miles per hour in a 25-mile-per-hour zone on a wet road at dusk, No. 80-31-502 (June 5, 1981).
[10] That puzzle, of course, would have to be worked out by the VA when considering petitioners' claims on remand.
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Another case denies benefits due to "willful misconduct"
And not a disease.
Citation Nr: 0736612
Decision Date: 11/21/07 Archive Date: 12/06/07
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DOCKET NO. 04-28 735 ) DATE
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On appeal from the
Department of Veterans Affairs Regional Office in Los
Angeles, California
THE ISSUE
Whether the veteran's death was the result of willful
misconduct.
REPRESENTATION
Appellant represented by: The American Legion
ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD
B. Morton, Associate Counsel
INTRODUCTION
The veteran served on active duty from April 1998 to January
2002. The veteran died while he was in service.
This matter is before the Board of Veterans' Appeals (Board)
from a July 2003 decision by the Department of Veterans
Affairs (VA) Regional Office (RO) in Los Angeles, California,
which determined that the veteran's death was due to willful
misconduct and, therefore, not in the line of duty. The RO
issued a notice of the decision in July 2003, and the
appellant timely filed a Notice of Disagreement (NOD) in
October 2003. Subsequently, in July 2004 the RO provided a
Statement of the Case (SOC), and the appellant timely filed a
substantive appeal.
Although the appellant had requested a Board hearing on this
matter, none was held, as she failed to appear at the
scheduled time. As she has not provided good cause for her
failure to report or requested that the hearing be
rescheduled, the Board deems her hearing request to be
withdrawn. 38 C.F.R. § 20.704(d) (2007).
FINDINGS OF FACT
The veteran died from blunt head and torso trauma as a result
of a single car accident, caused by his driving under the
influence of alcohol; excessive speed was also noted in the
line of duty determination; no other factors or causes of the
fatal accident were noted.
CONCLUSION OF LAW
The appeal that the veteran was in the line of duty at the
time of his death is denied as a matter of law. 38 U.S.C.A.
§ 105 (West 2002 & Supp. 2007); 38 C.F.R. §§ 3.1, 3.301
(2007).
REASONS AND BASES FOR FINDINGS AND CONCLUSION
I. Veterans Claims Assistance Act of 2000 (VCAA)
The VCAA describes VA's duty to notify and assist claimants
in substantiating a claim for VA benefits. 38 U.S.C.A.
§§ 5100, 5102, 5103, 5103A, 5106, 5107, 5126; 38 C.F.R.
§§ 3.102, 3.156(a), 3.159 and 3.326(a). The United States
Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims (Court) has held that
the statutory and regulatory provisions pertaining to VA's
duty to notify and to assist do not apply to a claim if
resolution of that claim is based on statutory
interpretation, rather than consideration of the factual
evidence. See Dela Cruz v. Principi, 15 Vet. App. 143, 149
(2001). That is, the VCAA has no effect on an appeal where
the law, and not the underlying facts or development of the
facts are dispositive in a matter. Manning v. Principi, 16
Vet. App. 534, 542-543 (2002).
In the instant case the facts are not in dispute, and
resolution of the appeal depends upon an interpretation of
the laws and regulations pertaining to willful misconduct.
Therefore, because no reasonable possibility exists that
would aid in substantiating this claim, any deficiencies of
VCAA notice or assistance are moot. See 38 U.S.C.A. § 5103A;
Wensch v. Principi, 15 Vet. App. 362, 368 (2001) (compliance
with the VCAA is not required if no reasonable possibility
exists that any notice or assistance would aid the appellant
in substantiating the claim).
II. Law & Regulations
Where a veteran's death occurs while on active duty, the
death is presumed to have occurred in the line of duty. 38
U.S.C.A. § 105. Direct service connection, however, may be
granted only when a disability or cause of death was incurred
or aggravated in line of duty, and not the result of the
veteran's own willful misconduct or, for claims filed after
October 31, 1990, the result of his abuse of alcohol or
drugs. 38 C.F.R. § 3.301.
The line of duty presumption is rebuttable where the
"preponderance of the evidence" indicates the veteran's death
was due to his own willful misconduct. Thomas v. Nicholson,
423 F.3d 1279 (Fed. Cir. 2005).
"Willful misconduct" means an act involving conscious
wrongdoing or known prohibited action.
(1) It involves deliberate or intentional wrongdoing with
knowledge of or wanton and reckless disregard of its probable
consequences.
(2) Mere technical violation of police regulations or
ordinances will not per se constitute willful misconduct.
(3) Willful misconduct will not be determinative unless it is
the proximate cause of injury, disease or death.
38 C.F.R. § 3.1(n).
In addition, "[a] service department finding that injury,
disease or death occurred in line of duty will be binding on
the Department of Veterans Affairs unless it is patently
inconsistent with the requirements of laws administered by
the Department of Veterans Affairs." 38 C.F.R. § 3.1(m).
Also, such misconduct "involves deliberate or intentional
wrongdoing with knowledge of or wanton and reckless disregard
of its probable consequences," but a mere technical
violation of police regulations or ordinances will not per se
constitute willful misconduct." 38 C.F.R. § 3.1(n)(1), (2).
Willful misconduct will not be determinative unless it is the
proximate cause of injury, disease or death. 38 C.F.R.
§ 3.1(n)(3).
According to 38 C.F.R. § 3.301(c)(2), the simple drinking of
alcoholic beverage is not of itself willful misconduct. If,
however, in the drinking of a beverage to enjoy its
intoxicating effects, intoxication results proximately and
immediately in disability or death, the disability or death
will be considered the result of the person's willful
misconduct.
III. Analysis
In the instant case, the facts are not in dispute. The
evidence of record reveals that the veteran died from blunt
force trauma to the head and torso from a single car
accident, which occurred in Texas, where he had been driving
under the influence of alcohol and at a high rate of speed.
A blood alcohol level of 0.22 was noted. See March 2002 Line
of Duty Determination. The Line of Duty Determination noted
that police reports indicated that the veteran lost control
of his vehicle and that "alcohol was a contributing factor"
in the crash. Excessive speed was also noted. No other
factors or causes for the fatal accident are apparent in the
line of duty determination or anywhere else in the record.
The Board determines that such drinking and driving
constitutes "willful misconduct" within the meaning of 38
C.F.R. § 3.1(n), as such is an act "involving . . . known
prohibited action" according to Texas law. See Tex. Penal
Code Ann. §§ 49.01(2), 49.04 (2001) (defining criminal
intoxication as "having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or
more" and classifying driving while intoxicated as a Class B
misdemeanor); see also Yeoman v. West, 140 F.3d 1443, 1446
(1998) (recognizing that the "Board's consideration of . . .
state law was a proper part of its interpretation of willful
misconduct under the standards mandated by the very
regulations defining that term and its relation to
drunkenness"). As noted by the United States Court of
Appeals for the Federal Circuit, 38 C.F.R. § 3.1(n) "clearly
implies that the violation of positive authority such as
state statutory or decisional law is relevant to the
consideration of what does constitute willful misconduct"
and "clearly contemplates the violation of state penal
statutes as a highly relevant, if not dispositive,
consideration." Yeoman, supra. Because the veteran
violated the Texas Penal Code when he drove with a blood
alcohol level of 0.22, he committed willful misconduct during
the car accident, which led to his death.
The appellant has offered no evidence to refute the fact that
the veteran partook in such willful misconduct, nor has she
otherwise contested the fact that the veteran's intoxication
led to his death. Instead, as reflected in her July 2004
substantive appeal, she merely has asserted that the veteran
"had a drinking problem that the Air Force was aw[are] of.
He was let out of AA and behavior health less than a month
maybe even weeks before," and her accredited representative,
in his November 2007 Brief, merely urges that the Board
should not view the veteran's conduct "as willful,
especially when considered with the fact that the Air Force
did not provide the needed support to enhance [the veteran's]
ability to cope with his problem drinking." The record does
not suggest that any other factor aside from the veteran's
driving while intoxicated and driving at excessive speed led
to the car accident, which caused his death, and in the
absence of such evidence calling into question either factor
in the veteran's death-causing accident, or even a contention
in that regard, appeal must be denied as a matter of law.
38 U.S.C.A. § 105 38 C.F.R. §§ 3.1, 3.301; Sabonis v. Brown,
6 Vet. App. 426 (1994).
ORDER
The veteran's death was the result of his own willful
misconduct and, therefore, the benefit sought on appeal is
denied.
____________________________________________
R. F. WILLIAMS
Veterans Law Judge, Board of Veterans' Appeals
Department of Veterans Affairs
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live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:41
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Willful misconduct = a behavior, not a disease
http://cfr.vlex.com/vid/3-301-line-duty-and-misconduct-19773953
(2) The simple drinking of alcoholic beverage is not of itself willful misconduct. The deliberate drinking of a known poisonous substance or under conditions which would raise a presumption to that effect will be considered willful misconduct. If, in the drinking of a beverage to enjoy its intoxicating effects, intoxication results proximately and immediately in disability or death, the disability or death will be considered the result of the person's willful misconduct. Organic diseases and disabilities which are a secondary result of the chronic use of alcohol as a beverage, whether out of compulsion or otherwise, will not be considered of willful misconduct origin. (See ?? 21.1043, 21.5041, and 21.7051 of this title regarding the disabling effects of chronic alcoholism for the purpose of extending delimiting periods under education or rehabilitation programs.)
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disclosure
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:18
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KILLER POST!
This case denied G.I. Bill benefits to veterans that claimed they missed the 10 year window of benefits availability due to drinking lots and lots and lots of alcohol (a/k/a alcoholism)
The Supremes ruled that the vets missed their deadline due to "willful misconduct".
The highest court in the land calls drinking a behavior!
That is the ultimate authority!
Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:30
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Well, sort of. Here, the
Well, sort of. Here, the SCOTUS held that WITHIN THE MEANING OF THE SPECIFIC STATUTES AT ISSUE, Congress did not intend to alter the Veterans' Adminstration's classification of primary alcoholism as "willful misconduct." That's not the same as a blanket ruling that drinking is willfull behavior.
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Clara
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:11
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So let me ask a question.
So let me ask a question. For some, this is a plus because it defines alcoholism as a behavior, which is all fine and dandy. But are there going to be those that feel this poor bloke was denied his "benefits" and that it was wrong?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
JR Harris
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:31
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Actually the denying of benefits to vets is wrong
The denying of faith health at $1000 a day makes common sense because it doesn't work and is a waste of money. All it takes to learn Bill Wilson chanting is a Big Book, a dollar and religious fanatics recruited from jails, prisons and institutions.
I didn't notice if the "treatment" entailed weird rituals and ceremonies in church basements, so he shouldn't have been denied.
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:57
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The opinion does not define
The opinion does not define alcoholism as a behavior. Rather, the opinion states that a later congressional act did not alter the Veterans' Administration's prior determination that alcoholism is willful misconduct. Whether you agree with that conclusion is irrelevant to the question of whether it was wrong to deny the benefits. Personally, I would give the benefits to the guy who served in 'Nam, but that's neither here nor there when it comes to statutory interpretation and congressional intent.
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JR Harris
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:45
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I do have to wonder if the benfits would be denied for NARCONON
Does insurance pay for NARCONON treatment? Would the US government write a check for its use on a VET?
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Ironic
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:19
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How was it wrong?
He was under the same rules as everyone else and from what I gather didn't file for his benefits. Unless he didn't file because he was in a coma/locked psychiatric ward/jail/kidnapped, I don't see how that is unfair.
Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:35
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It's not that it was unfair
It's not that it was unfair or legally wrong. I'm just saying that I would change the law to allow vets to claim their GI educational benefits at any time. If you fight for our country, I think you deserve it, and some people might not want to go to school for some time after being in the service. It could also save money in that vets would feel free to try something else without feeling the pressure to go to school now or lose the benefits forever. I'm sure there are downsides to my proposal, but dammit, I hold vets in very high regard and have no problem with my tax dollars going to pay for their schooling even years after they are honorably discharged. And if the law here sets a time limit, I don't have problem looking for a reasons to extend that limit, even if doing so is not legally required.
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alkieanon
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 21:13
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Willful Misconduct
The action, not the cause.
live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 21:20
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SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:35
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I thought drinking was self
I thought drinking was self will run riot?
live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:51
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self will run riot.
Would that be the same as willful misconduct? : )
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SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:53
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Depends on which judge you
Depends on which judge you get
live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:48
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Same old Song and Dance
"This litigation does not require the Court to decide whether alcoholism is a disease whose course its victims cannot control. It is not our role to resolve this medical issue on which the authorities remain sharply divided.
What of that statment pennyW? I posted these two cases for discussion. In a narrow context, the Court held that drinking is a behavior.
In my case, drinking was a behavior that I have since modified to not drink alcohol. I recall you, pennyW, have done the same.
The second case was from 2007, so the thinking, at least for military benefits, has not changed. Certainly is a step in the right direction. At least in my opinion.
So the proper course of action is to have THE issue taken to the Supreme Court.
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:00
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Generally speaking, it is for
Generally speaking, it is for Congress, not the courts, to determine whether alcoholism is a behavior within the meaning of federal statues. This is largely because it is a public policy decision and not within the realm of unelected jurists to decide. An exception might be a case where someone raises a constitutional argument. Here, the argument was based on statutes.
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live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:00
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Public Policy
I remember my law professor at Cal State stating that in his opinion the concept of "public policy" was nefarious and dangerous.
Anyway pennyW, so you are saying that we need to get Congress to decide the issue of disease versus behavior? Hasn't our congress already made that decision?
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:05
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Well, for purposes of federal
Well, for purposes of federal statutes, yes. For purposes of state statutes, it would be up to state legislatures. And of course a condition can be a behavior for purposes of one law and a disease for purposes of another law.
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live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:22
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Of course pennyW!
pennyW : "And of course a condition can be a behavior for purposes of one law and a disease for purposes of another law."
I should have thought of that. Ha!
So at one time in this country being gay was considered a disease right?
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:30
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So at one time in this
So at one time in this country being gay was considered a disease right?
According to the hacks who sit in the APA, yes. Having gay sex was also a crime in some states until relatively recently, when the SCOTUS handed down Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) (holding that anti-sodomy laws violate substantive due process under the Fourteenth Amendment).
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live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:39
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APA hacks and Congress
Allright, so we go after the hacks that publish the most dangerous book around today and push Congress to fund studies on alcohol consumption that will decide one way or the other if serious drinking is a disease or if it is just self will run riot.
Piece a cake.
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:50
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Or Congress could just use
Or Congress could just use good common sense for a change.
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live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:54
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I just saw a pig fly by my window.
A pig fly by.
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LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:43
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Still is in many parents
Still is in many parents minds. They actually send their children off to be "straighten out".
http://www.wehoconfidential.com/2011/10/teen-boy-flees-airport-turns-up-...
"The story the media portrays is that of "an autistic child is safe today after running away from the Burbank airport when his mother failed to ensure his safe departure". The media won't tell you that Cameron is gay, that he's being shipped away for his homosexual tendencies (again) or that he'll be bullied into a closet for the next four years no thanks to his parents."
JR Harris
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:58
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Vets are usually not taken care of properly......
As usual, VETS are the least protected of all of society after they risk their lives because of red tape and misuse of funds...
Source: http://www.kotatv.com/story/19309257/vets-raise-questions-about-belle-fo...
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Clara
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:09
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Does anyone object to the
Does anyone object to the person not getting his benefits?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:43
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CLar, the question of benefits for veterans.
For me, anytime a veteran is not treated right offends me. I am a veteran myself, USAF, honorably discharged and all that. So yeah, I get pissed when vets are screwed over.
Now, in the first case above, the two vets missed out on their educational benefits (the GI BILL) because they were in drunken stupors, from what I can tell. These two vets had 10 years to use their benefits, but they didn't make the deadline due to drinking.
The second case is one in which the veteran was killed in a car accident because of drinking and his family was denied death benefits.
These cases illustrate what I consider to be irrational conclusions. "Alcoholism" is considered a "disease" because Marty Mann said it was, and she lined up E. M. Jellinek to perform a bogus study to support this assertion that drinking is a disease. However, people are punished in various ways for having this particular "disease".
If someone has a disease they should be treated for it, not punished. And AA says that drinking is a disease.
If it is not a disease, quit calling it a disease and throw the bums in jail or prison.
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avogadno
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 15:55
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Agreed lfod. Keeping in mind
Agreed lfod. Keeping in mind that alcohol abuse can be used as self medication by veterans because of their service, it's even more of an insult.
Thanks for your service lfod.
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LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:16
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Whooooa, you same people have
Whooooa, you same people have argued repeatedly, that drinking alcohol is a choice that one never gives up or looses. So what gives now?
I am also a Vet but of no wars. I too agree with everything that is being said. Veterans whether they went to war or not should be given educational benefits. For serving their country.
If they went to war, especially the last 10 years everything the military offers should be given to them. Some of these men and women have done 5 to 6 tours of duty. Never has any veteran ever been to war for this long under such conditions. WWI-WWII you stayed till it was over with leave time periodically. Nam which both of my brothers went was 1 tour and you could be out unless you decided to go back. One brother did 2 years, 1 in Nam and 1 stateside and left. The other did 3 tours back to back.
Gunthar2000
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:27
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If you are a veteran...
What is your discharge paperwork called?
You know the paper that they give you when you are discharged that proves your military service?
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LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:29
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It is all part of your DD-214
It is all part of your DD-214
Gunthar, I am much older than you, so give it a rest, assbag.
Gunthar2000
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:34
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What branch of the service were you in?
What branch of the service were you in?
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
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LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:56
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Gunthar, get lost!!
Gunthar, get lost!!
Gunthar2000
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:57
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I call bullshit!
I think you're lying.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
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Vicky345uk
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:05
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Come on Danny, evidence
Come on Danny, evidence please???
SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:06
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Danny was in Operation
Danny was in Operation Dessert Storm. They threw pies at each otheAnyone who was there could spell it. Even this moron
Persephone In Exile
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:15
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Oh Sandy, that was classic!
Oh Sandy, that was classic!
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SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:10
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@ Vicky
Lisa said she could get phone records from yesterday in 24 hours. How easy is it to get his/her dd214?
Vicky345uk
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:12
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Sandy b I m crying laughing..
Sandy b I m crying laughing....
SandyB
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:03
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Danny's brothers were in
Danny's brothers were in Vietnam. It was hell. The year was 1984 and they couldn't find a hotel room anywhere
Clara
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:21
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How about working through
How about working through issues so that self-medicating isn't an issue?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Persephone In Exile
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:27
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See, usually the self
See, usually the self-medication begins before the working through the problems can even be effectively begun. Sounds like a Peter HItchens argument to me, a possibly working on paper sort of solution that obviously doesn't fly in the real world.
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Pennywise
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:35
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Indeed, the vets in the case
Indeed, the vets in the case here had been sober for quite some time.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
live_free_or_die
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:45
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Sobered up vets
That is true pennyW. Although I read the entire case, I kinda forgot about the fact that both vets in the first case had been sober for some time.
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Gunthar2000
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:32
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Scenario...
A veteran loses his legs and three close friends in an IED attack.
How will working through the 12 steps... Looking for the soldiers part in the incident, when he probably already blames himself, help?
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Clara
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:45
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I don't know, but since I
I don't know, but since I know veterans from every war out thre, perhaps you should ask some.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
avogadno
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:38
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Actually, this is a serious
Actually, this is a serious link that might help answer a queston you have.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/08/15/h ... z23yvJbt2e
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Clara
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:47
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In most cases, what appears
In most cases, what appears as 'drug addiction' is actually a form of self-medication for emotional issues. So it won't be resolved until the underlying issue is addressed.
Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/08/15/how-ptsd-and-addiction-can-be-safe...>>
Interesting comment from the reaer.
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LisaMarie
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 17:03
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Here is another resource I have used.
https://www.facebook.com/PTSDSOA
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