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A special thanks... and goodbye
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:09
Caution. AA may cause:
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®http://www.expaa.org/http://bereanresearch.com/http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMShttp://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:59
I had all 3 when in AA. When I left AA they disappeared.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:04
I am so glad to hear that. : )
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:00
AA may cause you to think God let someone else die so that you may remain sober
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 13:02
"we were chosen"......
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:08
Good stuff there sandy & vicky
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:11
What utter drivel AA dishes out. I used to say I was proud to be an alcoholic because it brought me to AA. I was brainwashed....
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:17
I am proud to say I am not an "alcoholic". I don't even believe in the word.
I am also proud, glad and happy that we are all here on the OP forum. Myth busting!
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 14:19
I feel proud that I had my eyes opened and I walked away from that brain washing cult.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:03
Caution. This website (www.orange-papers.org) requires excercise of logic and reasoning to fully enjoy the many benefits within.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:13
Is AA really a mutual support movement? How is it support when an AA member with a serious problem is told simply to "keep coming back"? How does that help?
First-Things-First (not verified)
Thu, 09/06/2012 - 03:13
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:35
WARNING - Rigorously Honest AA members delete information to cloud and hide the truth and then their EGO flares up and they brag about it. So if you want what these narcissists have and will go to any lengths to get it, enroll your family in the next Alcoholics Anonymous training event. Being held in church basements everywhere and brought to you by the court systems, parole and probation departments of your community.
First-Things-First Deleted All Its Posts - http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/1893
First-Things-First Brags about his deletions - http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/2115
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:21
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 11:36
******WARNING****** (for any recovery group)
We should always keep in mind that, recovery is a process. Just because people have, or are attempting, a sober way of life, doesn't necessarily mean they are healthy in mind. Unfortunately, degenerates are present in all walks of life. Always be weary of the individuals we allow into our lives. We should always practice safety first, for ourselves and our loved ones. The goal here is to attain a happier and sober way of life, enjoy.
"Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm."
Nice Post FTF. Any program to help quiting an addiction is a tool. And a program does not have to become a lifelong commitment. And there are various tools out there.
When making your choice, keep in mind that AA allows violent criminals and sexual predators to be mandated to AA meetings.
Also keep in mind that AA seems to condone 13th stepping. >>http://www.thefix.com/content/13th-step
Be informed, be educated and make your own choice. I do not need what AA offers.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:20
I don't get the logic of the Antis, LFOD. Remember all the conversations about how there should be a pamphlet on this or that... only to be able to point out that pamphlets DO exist on this or that? Then it is, well, how available is it? I loved Disc comparison to the med pamphlets because I used it as well. We can't make people read them, which is why the pharmacist comes out to recap the script with you.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:29
You would have trouble with the logic of universal affirmatives only being partially convertible...lol
Danny is currently "Rachel" - watch out folks, he's learned how to use a spell checker...lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:33
I don't sweat anything, Con, but thank you for the concern.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:39
Just a round about way of calling you a dumbass, but, as usual, WHOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHH - straight over Clara's head...lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:10
Why would I sweat whatever your opinion of me could be?
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:02
Anhidrosis is a symptom of some pretty serious real diseases including lung cancer and Parkinson's. Ironically enough, CNN Health also attributes this condition to the fake disease of "alcoholism."
Be careful not to breathe the air at the meeting after the meeting.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 16:10
What about sweating because someone needs a fix?
Mon, 08/20/2012 - 20:07
has god forsaken you CLar
Mon, 08/20/2012 - 20:15
No. Are you?
Mon, 08/20/2012 - 20:19
before you found AA. Sweet!
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:56
obversion + btnben/Conan = dogshit
Universal affirmatives, like you even know what the hell you are talking about here.
Big words with larger meaning, for such a pea brain. Always trying to impress...lmao!!
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:57
LisaMarie+stalker= Danny Bennison
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:08
Vicky345suk + abuser = Rose West
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:14
O please..... You can do better than that. How's your friend Danny erm Danny lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:17
How are your...erm...husbands!!!
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:20
There just fine lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:01
Danny looked up "Universal affirmative" on Wiki and one of the key words (the blue ones Danny...lol) was obversion. He looked up obversion, but then failed to understand what it means, hence the above post. Priceless...lol
You know what is funny, dumbass. You just explained that you went back to Wiki and looked again at your big word.
You never saw the word obversion, you don't know what it means, so therefore you can't figure out how I am using the word....lmao!!
But as we all know in your next post, you will plagiarize what your girlfriend just explained to you.
This is what, is funny.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:16
Danny, you are depriving a village if an idiot. Go now and don't come back.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:22
Explain obversion without cutting and pasting Danny...lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:37
Nice try...you started this, so I will wait for your detailed explanation on "Universal affirmative" first.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 21:07
Please tell me where I can find an AA pamphlet containing warnings regarding 13 stepping, or crime between members, anything about controlling situations, sponsor abuse, spiritual abuse. Anything like that.
Availablity is important too, depending on the topic of course. Lots of meetings have to pay for the pamphlets too. Crazy huh?
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:41
particularly when people are forced to participate and coerced to convert to the AA faith.
I would suggest these pointers be sent to parole officers, employee assistance managers etc, and others who force people to participate in the AA faith. I would also suggest that if you forward these guidelines to these people, that it done by certified mail, with the postal item number typed in the cover letter so there is no wiggle room for the acceptee to deny knowledge of acceptance.
When attending AA, safety should be of utmost concern. AA is an organization that is built on the trust of conmen and sexual, financial, and violent predators. The predators also operate under a cloak of anonymity, and ANY law enforcement notification of anything AA related is frowned on to the point of implied violence.
Do not give your real first name, your last name ever.
Do not give out phone numbers, actual or email addresses. People will come and try to speak to you before or after the meeting. They are attempting to glean information from you. Most of this information is passed along upstairs to AA headquarters in NYC, so they can build a database on you.
Do not go alone, particularly if you are female. We have a huge data base of predatory behavior archived in the 'keep coming back' section at www.stinkin-thinkin.com
One should not speak at meetings when forced to attend. People will coax you to make you talk. Do not take the bait, do not speak, and NEVER refer to yourself as an 'alcoholic' This information will be used against you later, and you will be gangstalked. If the AA organization does not have your personal information, their members will be watching for you at grocery stores, gas stations, post offices etc.
If you are not forced to rehab billable to health insurance NEVER admit to ever having an alcohol problem. Never admit to ever attending an AA meeting. To do so will have lifelong ramifications regarding health and life insurance.
People will advising the stopping of use of prescribed medication including high blood pressure meds, insulin, and birth control pills. Keep in mind these people have NO medical training whatsoever. This practice will always be denied.
Also, keep in mind that people forced to attend or participate in AA are not bound by the confidentiality 'suggestion' Feel free at any time, in public and online to say who was at any meeting and anything they may have disclosed. Feel free to use hidden cams to capture footage of people behaving badly in the rooms.
Feel free to cut and paste any part of this and forward to anyone in the recovery industry.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:45
There are pamphlets, DeCon. I give my real name but I don't give out my email addy or phone number until a relationship of some sort has been established.
Just some more blather otherwise for the lurker. AA doesn't care what you may be perscribed for your physical by a qualified practitioner, but it maintains a similar recreational drug stance akin to SOS, SMART and everything else. Despite very good intentions, DeCon, you are perpetuating misinformation.
DO remember that not all adhere to confidentiality. In fact, some meetings are open and not everyone there is part of the fellowship. In our preambe, we simply ask that any visitors not reveal the identities of those parties present although the meeting is open to the community at large. But I would concur. If you have legal issue that have not been resolved, don't discuss them in the rooms.
I too do not disclose my membership in AA or my status as an alcoholic. I fortunately do not have residual physical or health issues, and I wasn't mandated by the legal or medical community.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:42
Don't forget to warn the children! They are organizing AA prospect hunts and indoctrination on youth wordlwide!
54th International Conference of Young People in Alcoholics Anonymous (ICYPAA) held in Saint Louis, MO Sept 13 to 16, 2012 - http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/2233
I would never let my daughter anywhere near those people, they just give me the creeps.
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:44
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:47
The Midtown group was a direct spin-off from Clara's mate Clancy's PG wasn't it? Not clever to allign yourself with criminals Clara - or do you feel at home with the criminal fraternity?...lol
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:54
Love the pic Ben
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:41
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 10:07
I don't know anything about the Midtown Group. The criminals I knew had no connection with Clancy.
But, hey, don't let anyone accuse you of never making it about me!
that many of the sentencing or coercing agencies new trick is to require the use of a sponsor, which can be contacted by the coercing agency.
If that is the case, come here and we will act as your sponsor and be happy to be in email contact with them.
I disagree with that. What about their anonymity? What will happen is the guy that is willing will become the defacto PO and that isn't the purpose, nor is it right.
Well then do something about it, Picket AAWS at the Interchurch to change the literature! Quit the "these are only suggestions" loophole. Forbid working with the court systems and prospect raiding parties on youth at ICYPAA and jails and prisons. Quit being powerless!
Sun, 08/19/2012 - 09:46
you to admit that you are insane.