What Are Your Religious Beliefs?

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Submitted by Gunthar2000 on Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:58

I used to believe in God, but, after 18 years of groveling on my knees, I came to the conclusion that God does not exist. What are your religious beliefs, and how have they been effected by AA?

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Pennywise

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:17

http://www.reverbnation.com/arnoldzedville#!/artist/artist_songs/1263881

There is only one God, and his name is ZeDville!

Viewing lyrics for SHOW ME THE LOVE by Arnold ZeDville.

SHOW ME THE LOVE
10/3/10

Bb
OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS
Bb
HAVE COME AND GONE
GM
STILL THE FEAR AND APATHY REMAIN
CM
TIME MARCHES ON AND ON
DM
AND STILL DECEIVERS ARE DRONING ON
Eb F
BUT NO ONE CAME AND NO ONE’S COMING AGAIN
Bb
WE ARE ALL WE ARE
Bb
NO SAVIOR’S COMING FROM AFAR
F
WE ARE HEAVEN AND HELL
Bb
WE ARE WHERE LOVE DWELLS
CM
YET WE REMAIN OUTSIDE OURSELVES
F G
UNDER SEPARATION’S SPELL

CHORUS:
Bb
SHOW ME THE LOVE
Bb
NOT DISCONNECTION
F
SHOW ME THE LOVE
Bb
THERE’S NO SALVATION
Bb
SHOW ME THE LOVE
Bb
THAT DWELLS WITHIN YOU
F
SHOW ME THE LOVE
Bb
THAT’S SHINING IN OUR HEARTS
CM DM Bb
OH OH SHOW ME THE LOVE

Bb
OVER TWO THOUSAND YEARS
Bb
HAVE COME AND GONE
GM
SINCE THEY SAY YOU CAME TO SAVE ME
CM
TIME MARCHES ON AND ON
DM
AND STILL YOUR LOVE IS GONE
Eb F
YOU’RE NOT COMING BACK TO SET ME FREE
Bb
WE ARE.....

CHORUS

SOLO: Bb CM DM Eb GM X2
Bb CM CM Eb F
Bb
WE ARE.....

CHORUS

Copyright Ron DeVillez 2010

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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DeConstructor

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:24

Religion is not a good thing, ever since man invented it.

The most religious people in the United States on Sept 11, 2001 were the 19 hijackers who stole planes and rammed them into buildings.

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becket

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:22

They may have been the most fanatic, but I doubt they were the "most religious".

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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DeConstructor

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:38

When actions and verbs meet religion very bad things happen.

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becket

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:26

"WE ARE WHERE LOVE DWELLS"

ZeDVille is wrong about this.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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Pennywise

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:42

ZeDville is NEVER wrong.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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becket

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:21

That sounds like idolatry, Pennywise. I disagree with you on ZeDville never being wrong. If he says we are where love lives he's on ecstasy or smack or some other substance that dulls or mollifies his perceptions.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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Gunthar2000

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:23

that you can choose any God you please... including a tree?

If that ain't idolatry I don't know what is.

AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.

Gunthar2000

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becket

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:03

Yes, but the point is, Pennywise is an avowed atheist.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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alkieanon

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 20:34

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Pennywise

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:42

It is inherently impossible for ZeDville to be wrong. Anything ZeDville says becomes right by virtue of the fact that ZeDville said it.

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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becket

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:04

You're working an angle. I don't think I'm interested in pursuing it.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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Pennywise

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:35

Wise choice. I was in a meeting and didn't feel like posting anything of substance. Anyway, within your subjectivist philosophical framework, on what basis can you claim that ZeDville is wrong? If a person believes that we are where love dwells, how can you say he is wrong? Moreover, isn't love just a manifestation of biological chemical processes in the brain? If so, then how could love dwell in any place other than within us? Or were you directing your comment at this board by implying that there is no love on the Orange Papers forum?

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."

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live_free_or_die

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 19:29

pennyW asked, of becket, " ..on what basis can you claim that ZeDville is wrong?

the judge judges all that is judgeable because he is the judge. That is the basis.

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SandyB

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:15

Keaton always said, "I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him." Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze.

disclosure

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:00

I am an animal on a dirt claud whirling through space.
When it is lit up I see woman and build shelter.

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alkieanon

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 22:38


Sometimes it's hard to decide.

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NoNonsense

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 15:33

I believe we all have good and evil within us all. Some may call it the enlightened self vs. the not-so-enlightened self. I believe that most(maybe all) of us (including myself) are somewhere between these two, BUT WE HAVE A CHOICE as to which side to listen to. Therefore, we must do our best to be our best. I agree I have to work on this everyday myself.