"Hundreds of people turned out to City Park on Saturday for some food, games and a little bit of drug and alcohol awareness.
The Lighthouse Christian Center of West Reading's Alcohol Chemical Treatment Series Class hosted its third annual anti-drug and alcohol community rally at the park's bandshell, drawing crowds interested in having a bit of fun and learning about drug and alcohol abuse.
"Our goal is that people are set free from addiction," said Angel Palmer, one of the event's organizers.
Palmer said Lighthouse offers drug and alcohol support groups, but that Saturday's event was more about creating awareness than about promoting the program.
The event included free food, face painting, games and a moon bounce. Palmer said the idea behind the rally is to show Reading's youth that there are ways to have a good time without turning to drugs and alcohol.
"We're trying to give young children hope," she said.
The event ran from noon to 6 p.m. and organizers anticipated about 1,200 attendees."
This wouldn't have been my kind of rally but only because it was a Christian Group that also is affiliated with steppism. I wouldn't mind attending a Christrian Group for support on occasion, if they didn't use the steps as their model of treatment. But because there are vast differences between Christan sects I'd need to determine if I felt comfortable before hand.
Regardless of my opinion on steppism, I find nothing wrong with a Christian rally that employs it. This of course assuming that they aren't threatening people with drinking or death if they don't partake to their religious beliefs. When it comes down to it, my beef with AA can generally be measured by their lack of admittance that AA is a religious group that practicies religious exercises, and of course that their "treatment" can be summed up as religious faith healing.
Honestly and to be perfectly fair, if AA would rightly change their organizational status I would respectfully and quietly move on. This of course comes with the assumption that the danger element is also addressed. I like to that that religious groups have now put this on top of their agenda. Perhaps not for the right reasons, but it is being done. Finally and thankfully.
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NoAAUK
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 00:01
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"Our goal is that people are
"Our goal is that people are set free from addiction,"
That freedom goal obviously doesn't extend to freedom from predatory religious cults
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11
alkieanon
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:37
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Lighthouse Christian Center
"Welcome to Lighthouse Christian Center, a church where miracles are happening. We are a family-oriented church that believes in the supernatural ministry of Jesus Christ that is ever present among His people. We have become known for being "A Church for the Hurting" due to the many resources that we offer to our community. Our desire is for everyone to experience the healing, power, presence and love that Jesus Christ has to offer for each one of us, and to share it with our world. We would love for you to join us for any one of our spirit-filled services to experience all that God has for you. One visit with us and your life will never be the same!"
live_free_or_die
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:44
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Unity Church offers course in miracles.
http://www.interfaithunitychurch.com/courseinmiracles.html
alkie, you need to check this out.
note: see the Miracle Distribution Center. (AA surely is listed)
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
alkieanon
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:52
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Miracles Are Happening
http://www.lighthousechristiancenter.info
becket
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:46
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Why not?
"That freedom goal obviously doesn't extend to freedom from predatory religious cults"
Why not? It's on you to repel them. You create your own freedom by refusing to participate.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
live_free_or_die
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 04:40
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On being honest
Avo said: "Honestly and to be perfectly fair, if AA would rightly change their organizational status I would respectfully and quietly move on. This of course comes with the assumption that the danger element is also addressed."
A majority (80%?) of Americans are christians, at least according to what I have read or heard.
I personally don't care if AA changes their position of "spiritual, not religious". What I care about is the people that are being harmed (sometimes fatally) by a program that was started in 1935. What I care about is that AA refuses to admit that there are problems within the fellowship of AA.
Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/
Clara
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 12:16
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AA could take all the
AA could take all the suggestions of the naysayers, but they would still not move on. There is an emotional investment in any form of hate.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
avogadno
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 12:26
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Oh I get it now. AA shouldn
Oh I get it now. AA shouldn't change because we'll still hate them even if they do?
"There is an emotional investment in any form of hate." ~ Clara
That's poetic.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
avogadno
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 12:20
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Their denial continually
Their denial continually hurts people. How many abuses could have been avoided?
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
avogadno
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:30
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I take measure in both
I take measure in both important complaints against AA. The harmful features, as in the sexual abuse and crime, are foremost an issue for me.
My point was that even if AA "fixed" this problem and gave it the attention it deserves, I'd still oppose the organization because of their dishonest approach in gaining members. I found it religiously offensive myself, and this as a Christian but that wouldn't accept their evangelical persuasions. I've also met many that were very offended by AA's religious ridiculing toward atheists.
The spiritual angle is abusive as well, just in a different way, not physically. In this case, AA tries to steal a person's soul.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
alkieanon
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:35
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Lighthouse Christian Center of West Reading's ACT
https://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=406262
Vicky345uk
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 05:54
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Miracles are happening
People are waking up....
alkieanon
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 06:23
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Miracles Are Happening
... and going to rallies.
JR Harris
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 12:33
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Miracles are happening in Religious cults, ask Pastor Wolford
Oh that's right, the Christian Pastor Randy “Mack” Wolford died because of his very small rally that killed him.....
Read more at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/why-i-watched-a-snake-handli...
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
becket
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:51
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Finally. You have run
Finally. You have run absolutely dry, JR Harris. On with the recycling of unrelated stories . . .
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
DeConstructor
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 12:01
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They are
soft peddling the toxicity of the AA faith.
Pennywise
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 18:56
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You should show up with a
You should show up with a sign praising a doorknob. When people at the rally ask, let them know that in AA a doorknob works just as well as Jesus. Or maybe wear a shirt with an inverted pentagram and tell them that your respective groups' mutual involvement in AA has been a fantastic way of bringing Satanists and Christians together to ritually chant in church basements.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
avogadno
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:42
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Absolutely Penny. This made
Absolutely Penny. This made me quite uncomfortable. I didn't want to hold hands in a prayer session as it was written by Jesus, about Jesus, but others were giving their love, thanks, and showing faith to their tree or the moon, whatever. I felt I was being mocked. As much as I thought I wanted to respect their feelings and decisions I didn't feel as if I was receiving the same. I'd much prefer to keep my prayers private or with others of the same faith. AA makes a joke of believers and mocks us all. It seems to me that it's done knowingly too, and with the same smirky understanding like when you discuss AA's cult status with a guru. You can see it in their eyes that they are full of shit. It's also almost to the point that they know that you know.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
becket
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:57
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avogadno, why didn't you just
avogadno, why didn't you just leave?
I have NEVER made a "joke" of believers. I'm a believer myself. I take shit on here all the time for being a believer. I don't mean a believer in Bill Wilson. I mean a believer in God/god/higher power. I respect atheism until it takes cheap shots at my intelligence for believing something the atheist scoffs at. There's no sense in unilateral respect. That's one of the main problems on this forum. As if anyone gives a shit.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
avogadno
Wed, 08/08/2012 - 00:47
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You made a good point in
You made a good point in another thread, started by Pennywise I think, about opening yourself up for attack. I'm sure you understand that the same would go both ways. If I attempted to answer your question honestly I'd get ridiculed and berated. I'm also not sure of the validity of the question. Are you really curious as to why I didn't "just leave" or are you just making a point, perhaps suggesting that I should have just left?
Although I don't feel like going into a deep explanation, even if I was able to, I will say one thing that is harmless. I am a different person now than I was then. I have more confidence and I'm more sure of who I am and where I want to go. Now I certainly feel capable of gathering my thoughts and leaving, regardless of what is said to me.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
becket
Tue, 08/07/2012 - 23:53
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Wow.
"You should show up with a sign praising a doorknob. When people at the rally ask, let them know that in AA a doorknob works just as well as Jesus. Or maybe wear a shirt with an inverted pentagram and tell them that your respective groups' mutual involvement in AA has been a fantastic way of bringing Satanists and Christians together to ritually chant in church basements."
If your boss knew where those meetings are taking you he would probably let up on the requirement to attend. You are turning.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Pennywise
Wed, 08/08/2012 - 04:22
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Well, in AA, a doorknob,
Well, in AA, a doorknob, Satan, or anything else can serve as a God of your understanding. Nothing prevents this, and many groups encourage people who have problems with Chirstianity to seek alternative Gods of one's choosing. Moreover, many groups meet in churches, and all AA meetings involve ritual chanting. So I'd say my comment is right on the mark.
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
NoAAUK
Wed, 08/08/2012 - 05:25
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It would have to be a door
It would have to be a door knob that has a will, else you wouldn't be able to work a 'strong program' praying only for knowledge of His (it would also have to be a male door knob....no pun intended) will for us and the power to carry that out...........else its jail, instititions or death!!!!!!
......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11