Churches facing cash crunch are being creative, 3 different services, 24 AA Meetings and a Boy Scout Troop. McMinnville Cooperative Ministries Oregon

With attendance at church showing a 17% decline, it is estimated that 40% of mainline churches will be forced to close down by the year 2020 because they just can't make it financially. Upkeep and maintenance cost of the specialized buildings are just too high and they need help to survive. Churches, designed for rituals and ceremonies can not be sold for much else because they are set up for special use that does not lend itself to much else(i.e. It is hard to change a church into an IHOP, McDonalds, Chick-Fil-A or hotel).

One Church, the McMinnville Cooperative Ministries is the McMinnville United Methodist Church
and Trinity Lutheran Church in McMinnville on 307 NE 3rd St, McMinnville, OR 97128 and is using various methods to survive. Having three ceremonies, one Methodist, one Lutheran and a mixed session, Hosting 24 Alcoholics Anonymous meetings a week and a Boy Scout Troop this church is striving to survive.

McMinnville Cooperative Ministries Website: http://www.mac-coop.org/

Alcoholics Anonymous. the Spiritualist, not Religious organization started by the Bill Wilson who was married to the Swedenborg Faith Lois Wilson appears to be helping immeasurably in keeping this church alive since most rituals and ceremonies at this church are to the gods of Alcoholics Anonymous.

This is a disturbing trend that could make the Spiritualist, not Religious faith of Alcoholics Anonymous take over mainstream churches for the purpose of Bill Wilson chanting and filled with criminals recruited from jails and prisons.

As congregations dwindle, brokers struggle to fill empty churches

POSTED: Monday, July 30, 2012 at 02:19 PM PT
BY: Lee Fehrenbacher

....... Courtney McHill is a United Methodist pastor for the McMinnville Cooperative Ministries, a co-op that combines Methodist and Lutheran congregations under one roof.

The arrangement started about six years ago as a way for one pastor to fill in for another when that person was on a mission. But it has since evolved into a kind of full-service community center. In addition to being used for three different mass schedules (one Methodist, one Lutheran and one mixed) the building accommodates 24 Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and local Boy Scout troop gatherings. Free coffee is offered all day, and free breakfast is served on Saturdays.

McHill said it works great.

“Why would we funnel more funds into all these different buildings when that’s not our mission,” she said. “It’s to be out in the world with people.”

Brauer-Rieke said the Bethlehem congregation ultimately arrived at the same conclusion. The group now travels and “nests” with other Portland-area churches; he said many are relieved that there are no more worries about paying monthly bills.

But concerns did arise. When the idea of selling the church was broached, one woman in her early 70s asked him, “Where will my funeral be?”

A big turning point came about two weeks after the congregation left the building and a woman in her 90s – one of the group’s most long-standing parishioners – died. An intimate service was held at the Gateway Little Chapel of the Chimes.

The congregation’s pastor, Solveig Nilsen-Goodin, said the experience helped people realize that it wasn’t the building that mattered most, but rather how the life was celebrated. Brauer-Rieke said selling a church building is still hard.

“All of us want ties to the ancestors. We want our history … That’s part of why we’re so resistant to this stuff,” Brauer-Rieke said. “Because people at some gut level know, boy, if we lose this, it’s gone forever.”

That said, Brauer-Rieke said more Portland-area churches likely will go up for sale. Meanwhile, brokers will continue to seek buyers.

“Their building for them is an important part of their lives and to let it go for land value just sort of rubs against them the wrong way,” Hagan said. “But unless you’re McMenamins and going to have the temple bar or something, I mean who’s going to use it with the stained glass? It’s not going to happen.”

Read the entire story: http://djcoregon.com/news/2012/07/30/as-congregations-dwindle-brokers-st...

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JR Harris's picture

Free coffee is offered all day....... 24 AA meetings a week means at least 24 hours of Bill Wilson worship a week verses 3 hours a week of regular services.....

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

NoAAUK's picture

I have just looked at the list I’ve got for AA meetings in the English North Midlands.

The list states 27 AA meetings in the City of Nottingham, England. Some of these may well have closed, the list is a least a couple of years old. I remember the one in the building when I was running an MM meeting was down to the chair person, and I did hear reports that many other Nottingham City AA meetings were struggling to keep running.

Anyway, you have as many meetings (more or less) in ONE church, as we have in the whole of a principle UK city.

We may (or may not) have a worse Alcohol problem in the UK per head of population. But you certainly have a far far worse stepper cult problem in the US.

That’s not to discredit our own tireless British Predatory Cult promoters; they have had a cult promotional event in Parliament (wonder if they actually mentioned God at this event?). And are currently pushing for mandatory AA attendance for the Unemployed if suspected of Alcohol abuse ( six drinks a session Clara?) on pain of losing benefits.

Today the UK.........tomorrow ze vorld (New stepper slogan?)

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

alkieanon's picture

Population: 32,451 (2011)

live_free_or_die's picture

liar!

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

live_free_or_die's picture

The Portland–Vancouver–Hillsboro Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA), the 23rd largest in the United States,[3][4] has a population of 2,226,009 (2010 Census).

alkie, what is it like being a cult member, a member of a heretical fellowship?

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

alkieanon's picture

Just ask the original poster of this blog entry. LOL!

NoAAUK's picture

Need to be a Big Church then, Nottigham Forest Football Club Ground holds about 33,000, but they also have a soccer pitch as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZp_PwWgrUI

......and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

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JR Harris's picture

McMinnville Cooerative Ministries appears to be being taken over by the Yamhill County AA Intergroup of General Service Area 58 District 22 and they have their business meeting in the basement of that church once a month. The Yamhill County AA Intergroup does not appear to have a website.

http://www.aa-oregon.org/Districts/district22/

Yamhill County AA Intergroup
CO-OP Church | 544 E 2nd Street | McMinnville, OR. 97128
Basement Office: (503) 434-8608
Business Meeting: 1st Monday of the month
6:00 PM - 7:00 PM | CO-OP Church

http://www.aa-oregon.org/aa_meetings.htm

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

Orange's picture

Thanks for the story. That is literally just down the road from me. Both Forest Grove (where I am) and McMinnville are tiny rural towns way out in the boondocks, 20 or 30 miles from Portland.