"AA is a massive cult" Started Oct 12, 2010
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This discussion of "AA is a massive cult" was started a little less than 2 years ago. It started explaining what many of us see wrong with the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous. It has degraded to the usual "you didn't work the steps so you don't know" and "you didn't try hard enough" AA loophole minimization techniques. Here's how the discussion started:
Oct 12, 2010
Dolcey
Seattle, WAAA is a religious cult. Its message of "being powerless" serves nothing but to perpetuate its need to those addicted to this cult. I have been to these stupid meetings-and they don't help someone with their problem. They sell a higher power-tell a person that they can NOT have any of their "former" friends, and try to guide them down the path of a brand NEW dependence-which is AA itself.
I was hoping to get others take on this. For me personally this joke of a mandatory program serves nothing but to convince people that they are complete losers without this cult. It is wrong-it shouldn't be mandated by govt-and I simply can not stand it.
Anyway agree? or have thoughts? I am sure I will get some "friends of bill w" on here spattering their pre programmed rhetoric about your higher power could be a rock-etc...
But that isnt what I am looking for. I am truly looking for things that empower and help people. Making someone believe that they are a strong and good person is more important than taking all of their personal strength away. With a success rate of less than 5%, AA has the same success rate as no program at all for people with addictions.
Thoughts?
Source: http://www.topix.com/forum/health/alcoholism/TE761P6F6SD3780P5
With currently only 65 comments, I am sure they could use a few more......
alkieanon
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 14:02
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Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it so
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it so.
JR Harris
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 15:10
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Looking for AA loopholes for denial alkieanon?
Your obviously in denial alkieanon. Have you talked to "bill" from Sunrise Detox yet?
"Bill" from Sunrise Detox goes on the defense with "12 Step Program Bashers (and others) Take Note"
http://orange-papers.org/forum/node/1917
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
alkieanon
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 20:46
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Looking for OPF loopholes for hallucinations JR Harris?
You're obviously hallucinating JR Harris. Have you talked to yourself yet?
Revision: Looking for OPF conspiracy theories that have lots of holes JR Harris?
JR Harris
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 17:47
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The only loopholes I have ever highlighted are the ones you use!
Exactly what "loopholes" am I using?
loophole
[loop-hohl]
3.
a means of escape or evasion; a means or opportunity of evading a rule, law, etc.: There are a number of loopholes in the tax laws whereby corporations can save money.
Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/loophole?s=t
Please be specific in your reply and try not to give the usual vague response that means very little alkieanon, it is getting very boring and very predictable.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
steve cochrane
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 20:02
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There are no loopholes
for or in hallucinations. OH . . . . . wait a minute. Let me get back to you on this one. I have a conference call (:
alkieanon
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 20:25
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Conspiracy Theories With Lots Of Holes
Okay, there are no loopholes. Just conspiracy theories with lots of holes in them.
Conference call: "One Ringy-Dingy. [Snort] Two Ringy-Dingy."
steve cochrane
Sun, 07/15/2012 - 19:58
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Yes it does
(: