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Whole Lotta Loving

LOL! It's a fun thing to do, but you don't have to limit yourself. Many times people find relief in listening to these almost hypnotic sounds and being in a meditative state. We take our incense, but we changed fragrances with a person said it reminded him of Catholic church. It's a time to be good to yourself, unwind, and have some fun. Ours were in a park at the beach. In the winter, the shelter we chose had a big fireplace and we would often have a potluck. Some great vegan choices out there.

Bohnam knew what to do with drums and with his life. He was a real role model:

"On 24 September 1980, Bonham was picked up by Led Zeppelin assistant Rex King to attend rehearsals at Bray Studios for an upcoming tour of the United States—the band's first since 1977. During the journey, Bonham asked to stop for breakfast, where he drank four quadruple vodkas (sixteen shots, between 400–560 ml). He then continued to drink heavily after arriving at the rehearsals. A halt was called to the rehearsals late in the evening and the band retired to Page's house, the Old Mill House in Clewer, Windsor. After midnight on the 25th, Bonham fell asleep and was taken to bed and placed on his side. Benji LeFevre (who had replaced Richard Cole as Led Zeppelin's tour manager) and John Paul Jones found him dead the next afternoon. Bonham was 32 years old.

Weeks later at the coroner's inquest, it emerged that in the twenty-four hours before he died, John Bonham had consumed forty shots of vodka which resulted in him vomiting and subsequently inhaling his vomit causing asphyxiation. A verdict of accidental death was returned at an inquest held on 27 October 1980. An autopsy found no other drugs in Bonham's body." ~ Wikipedia

I cannot explain faith to an atheist. I've tried to put it in neutral terms and non-incendiary language. I see that didn't work. If someone believes, and the desired result is achieved, that person will attribute the success to that in which he believes. He may even consider it to be a miracle. He does not need to prove this to anyone, it's simply a personal belief. Are you asking for proof of fully-functioning faith? Then what you want is a priest who is also a scientist to explain this to you, and I am far from either. All I'm saying is that faith can pull a man up from the jaws of defeat where statistics and logical probabilities might not. And the person for whom the "miracle" or the desired effect becomes reality takes it as he himself values it, not at how you or DeConstructor or Ironic or lfop might value it. What you think and what I think doesn't matter.