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"If you don't like or feel it doesn't work for you then find something that fits you. It's that simple. People be on all on a cult trip and hating. You all is twisted brothers and sisters. People in A.A. come and go, and believe me, THEY COME AND GO. The darm thing almost has a revolving door at each meeting place. But equally so, like I've said before, it can and does work; if you do the work. If it's not for you fine, go somewhere else; life is often simpler than we make it."

That is the text from your #5. Where does it say that you are looking for a better fit for yourself and/or haven't "kept [your] sobriety?" I just read it again and copy and pasted it and still don't see where you said that.

Many AA's believe AA was divinely inspired through Bill Wilson, very similar.

over the hills and everywhere go tell it on the mountain that Alcoholics Anonymous is dead!!!

FTF, with all due respect, you have come to this board in a time of rather intense trolling here. People were rather on edge, and a particularly abusive troll had just been banned. There used to be quite a bit more positive commenting and discussions of what worked on this board, actually. Quite a few people have left here for good, and others simply no longer want to share too much here because everything that is posted here is promptly attacked by a few people who do claim to be AAs "in recovery", but exhibit the very behavior you are discussing by spending hours and hours a day on a web forum solely to attack other people they've never met. In fact, they occasionally get banned and simply come back to spew more hate at people here. If that isn't the "dry drunk" syndrome you're describing, then I'm not sure what is.

It's an intresting environment. When I first got here, there was a better mix of objectivity. now it is becoming a forum of people that don't have lives if they post here. It is interesting that a regular posters that posts often does so from AA meetings and the blog helps him get through. Another can post hwile she's at a gym, and others can post as often as any AA, yet these people somehow "have lives" while the AA post so often ... because they don't! Now, that is humorous.

OP is a body of work that is critical toward recovery in general, but Orange does have problems with AA. OPF often had other topics that posters would introduce and discuss as well. I've gotten a lot of help, especially when my dog was on medical marijuana.

Alcoholics Anonymous is nothing but a cult that managed to weave its way into the US judiciary system in 1942 after the Oxford Group had been kicked out of most churches because of its direct cult like tactics. Most people end up in the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous because they are fear mongered into believing that if they don't chant Bill Wilson and hunt for prospects to join the cult they will end up in jails, institutions or death.

Bill Wilson was fanatical over his recruitment tactics and even tracked its growth on "A map showing the growth of AA meetings between 1935 and 1942", proudly displayed at the Stepping Stones Compound in Bedford Hills, New York. http://www.steppingstones.org/archives.html

So much for "attraction, not promotion" of the cult that Bill Wilson built military style in his wolfs lair called "Wit's End" on the grounds on the Stepping Stones Compound. http://www.steppingstones.org/witsend.html

"It's a simple program that people complicate, Sue. If you want it and are willing to give it a try with Honesty, Openmindedness and Willingness, yes, it can work."

First of all, I respectfully disagree with that statement you made. I think it could be simple but AA complicates it and confuses people about themselves, their character and ability to make decision. IMO it boils down to whats right/wrong, moral, kindness,compassion and honesty etc. Ive seen new comers walk in the door with more of those excellent qualities. They end up baffled if they believe everything that is said in the literature and at the meetings about the diseased alcoholic personality. Oh, and i forgot that you should consider it normal to label your self a "Drunk" like everyone else. I always thought that was abusive, inappropriate and unnecessary for people supposedly in recovery. Who by the way are now sober. Just my opinion again. I thought it was sad when the group chuckled about being Drunks. I just never thought it was cute.

I have to agree. Of course abstinence is a wonderful thing, for those with personality disorders. Imagine what those people were like when they were drinking!! Unfortunately, I dont think they are motivated or encouraged in AA to get the additional help they desperately need. For the most part they are excused and welcome no matter how outrageous their behavior is.

Your right; your last paragraph is a different subject. These blogs do have a tendency to get insanely off track at times and end up missing the original point entirely. Have a nice day. Im off to work. :-)

you are less than 2 years from your last drink?

I do not think you have any business lecturing us about anything.