Re: abstinance or moderation
"Postby Avo » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:19 am
I've been able to put all thinking in regards to Suboxone being "using" out of my mind. It no longer bothers me that I regularly take an opiate "like" medication. I'm glad that I've been able to do this because it really helps my PAWS. I am functional and much more productive. Happier even :D
I know that in terms of moderating opiate use I likely wouldn’t be successful. Besides it being against the law, which nowadays is a deterrent for me, I have never once used this drug with exercising an ability to control my intake. For this reason as well, I'll likely always need to refrain from recreational opiate use. I have decided that if I'm ever in need and able to take pain killers that I will do it without qualms. Another of the hundreds of pet peeves I have about the program is the so called expectation that addicts or even "alcoholics" need to suffer pain in order to maintain their clean time. The decision seems to be made for others and instilled by others into their brains at a time that they themselves are not suffering. Kind of unfair, don’t ya think?"
"Postby Avo » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:58 pm
I've thought a bit about how different I would do things and now that I'm on the Sub I wish that I had tried this route years ago. It had been offered but I was determined to be "clean" by program standards. It's difficult to know how it might have been better for me or not. Since I'm on a higher dose atm and slowly working my way down, I am questioning it again now, :lol: Since the paws were so awful for me all I do is have to remember the times when life didn't seem worth living and the questions get answered right away."
"Postby Avo » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:04 am
My bit about the PAWS was for me a way to keep it in perspective. The Sub has caused some issues of concern and I was prepared to face them. But for now, comparing the two is night and day. Living like life it was a disaster when in fact I have much to live and be happy for (like you), wasn't living. I needed to make a change and go in a different direction. Now I feel good. Normal, and happy. Thanks!"
Trisha wrote:
Avocagno, has not even finished her recovery yet. She is still using Suboxone to treat her PAWS. Which in and of itself is a good thing, but this chick is still a puppy when it comes to being able to stay clean and sober on her own. Yet here she is harassing other members who don't agree with her naive views about AA.
Girl try this, when you and your doctor think you are ready get off of suboxone and the ambien you are taking everyday. Then come back here and talk all shit you want, but I don't think you will.
Avo, you are not fully rid of opiates yet, you are still dependent. I am not saying this is wrong because it isn't. I just think you should tell everyone before you run off at the mouth about opinions concerning sobriety, how sobriety should be achieved, who is making the decisions about the quality and consistency of anyone's sobriety. FINISH YOUR RECOVERY PROGRAM!!!
I also believe that after you have been clean for a while, all this Missouri trailer trash shit you have been talking about that has to do with me and these other people, whether real or fancy, will end. You will finally grow the fuck up and realize your lies are not necessary.
Avo, most of us here are not in recovery, recovering or even in NA, AA, SMART, HAMS or any other form of recovery program. We have left it all in our past. I am talking decades ago.
Suboxone wasn't even available when I was banging dope. You either kicked it cold turkey or you went on methadone. I never considered methadone as a viable alternative, just my opinion.
Yes my way was painful (probably beyond anyones belief) but I saw many before me do it and they succeeded.
Last....
Avo, you lied about me. Now whether you want to call me Danny, Trisha, Claude or who ever, it still doesn't wash away the fact you lied about me calling your home and threatening your son.
This never happened because if it did, I would not be here, writing on this site. I would be in jail, awaiting trial for a prison sentence.
So why don't you quit with all this other bullshit and tell everyone here what a piece of shit you were to accuse me of such a horrible allegation.
NOTE.......
(Here are your contradicting statements, actually you are the liar. Talk about feeling guilty Avo, how about being a mother and using your son in a plot to frame someone else on a AA web site)
Avo wrote:
Wed, 06/13/2012 - 18:27
"Well Trisha, I've decided to take you up on your offer to get the police involved because I am taking it that seriously. Internet investigation has shown that you are using a proxy IP address on this site. Further investigation has revealed your actual personal IP address however. If you would please just confirm that your IP address is 68.97.248.86, I will forward this to the police and we will let them take this further. Because I am not a lowlife like you I will not post your full home address."
Avo wrote:
Tue, 07/03/2012 - 22:17
"Here is another one that you left in your trail of harassment around the web as Calinda, TraceLIn, Perplexity: 166.183.23.116 . I've never accused you, Trisha, of the phone call made to my house, I didn't say a word to you about it. It was you that came to the thread either because you ARE guilty or you FEEL guilty probably because of the mass of abuse that you have put others through over the years."
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Persephone In Exile
Fri, 02/08/2013 - 20:33
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http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Clara
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:57
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If AA had been the experience
If AA had been the experience to all these angry people that I had, this blog wouldn't exist.
But it is interesting, SPK. You've been here two weeks and jumping in the middle of the herd!
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Gunthar2000
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:01
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I'm sorry Clara
I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but you could at least try to construct your sentences so they make sense.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
Gunthar2000
http://www.expaa.org/
Clara
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:29
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They make plenty of sense, my
They make plenty of sense, my dear. You can always just post to others.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Trisha K.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:09
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Avo, your buddies are showing off for you.
This is what the X's bring to the site, 2nd grade level maturity.
If you want what we have.......
published by Conan on Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:18
stick it in your mouth
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SPK77
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:19
Take the cotton out of your
Take the cotton out of your ears and give it away.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:19
It works if you stick it in
It works if you stick it in your mouth.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:22
Poor me... Poor me...
Pour me another crab bisque soup.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:33
Have a good day,
unless of course you have made crab bisque soup.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:24
I came... I came to...
I came to leave.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:25
This, too, shall pour me
This, too, shall pour me another drink.
One Day at a Simple Stupid
To thine own self keep coming back.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:28
Fiend...
of Bill W.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:28
One cult...
at a time.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:28
Meeting makers do push ups in
Meeting makers do push ups in the parking lot.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:34
Meeting makers...
....fake it
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:35
Adidas "Predator" shoes.
Adidas "Predator" shoes.
Linton
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:36
Some of us....
are slicker than others.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:38
Remember that alcoholism is incurable, progressive, and ...
stick it in your mouth.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:38
The mind is like a parachute;
The mind is like a parachute; it works better at the barbershop.
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:39
Birds of a feather march to
Birds of a feather march to the beat of the same drum circle.
Linton
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:41
Sick and tired of being...
told to sit down, shut up, and listen.
Gunthar2000
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 18:44
There is no chemical solution to a spiritual...
bum blast.
Gunthar2000
“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine
Persephone In Exile
Fri, 02/08/2013 - 20:34
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http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Orange
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 10:49
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Banned
Trisha K. is no longer posting. The only rule that I've been enforcing is "No personal attacks on other forum members." Alas, I do have to enforce that rule.
I would delete the whole thread if I could figure out how to do it.
mfc66uk
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:27
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I think that is good news, he
I think that is good news, he has come on my site as pkats and continually tries to join under various stupid names. I have banned him many times as well. There are many who try to come on both sites simply to disrupt and they have no limits.
I'm sure many people will be glad to see the back of him.
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:26
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I am not sure if this post
I am not sure if this post above is supposed to mean that Trisha was Danny or not. She is not Danny and has never been. mfc66UK, I have read your hateful messages you promote on this site and have heard about your filthy vile language you use to describe AA supporters on your site and so I really don't see where you have any room to speak at all.
Orange did not ban Trisha based upon anything you three had to say. I also don't believe she will be banned long once Orange has a chance to read all the evidence that was behind this blog post Trisha put together.
I believe it was within her rights to create this blog post about Avo. Avocagno demonstrated a behavior that was very reckless and potentially very damaging to Trisha.
People should for once on this site step up and get honest. Avo purposely and willfully inferred that Trisha called her house and threatened her son. There isn't one person on this site who read all the posts that will dispute Avo's intent. The point Trisha was tyrying to make was, Avo is still under medication, so could this be effecting the decisions she is making, when she feels anxious. There was serious consideration being given that Avo had lost her mind when she inferred Trisha did these things to her son. In our opinion what other reason could there be.
Orange has not read all the posts yet, so consequently doesn't have all the information.
Orange I hope you seriously look into this and bring an objectiveness to the situation.
Gunthar2000
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:30
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Welcome back Trisha....
or Danny, or whatever your name is.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
Gunthar2000
http://www.expaa.org/
Persephone In Exile
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:32
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That sure didn't take long.
That sure didn't take long.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
causeandeffect
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:50
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calinda, was danny bennison
calinda, was danny bennison your English teacher?
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Persephone In Exile
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 14:43
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Thank you, Orange.
Thank you, Orange.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
avogadno
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:25
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Thank you Orange. As it did
Thank you Orange. As it did get pretty messy, I would erase it all too.
Pro Empowerment!
Truth about AA: http://orange-papers.org/menu1.html
Expose AA: http://www.expaa.org/
Clara
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:28
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Not yet, though, Orange. I
Not yet, though, Orange. I would appreciate it.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Persephone In Exile
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 21:15
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Yes, erasing it would be a
Yes, erasing it would be a good idea. The original blog post itself was abusive enough regardless of the thread.
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Gunthar2000
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:04
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Thankyou
By the way.... Calinda and Trisha K are the same person.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
Gunthar2000
http://www.expaa.org/
Persephone In Exile
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:30
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Yeah, I think the post above
Yeah, I think the post above by Calinda rather proves that, don't you, Gunthar?
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
Gunthar2000
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:32
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It's pretty obvious.
Danny is as obsessed as he has ever been.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
Gunthar2000
http://www.expaa.org/
Persephone In Exile
Fri, 02/08/2013 - 20:34
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http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
causeandeffect
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:40
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ROFLMAO!!! It's about time.
ROFLMAO!!! It's about time. Welcome back danny/calinda.
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Gunthar2000
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 15:40
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The poor boy is lonely
Imagine sitting at the computer all day every day begging for attention like that... and he gets his ass kicked every time. He's a real sicko for sure... some sort of cyber-masochist.
AA is a religious cult dressed up to look like a treatment for alcoholism.
Gunthar2000
http://www.expaa.org/
causeandeffect
Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:13
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Thanks Orange
Thanks Orange but you have to keep whacking away at him again!andagain!andagain! like this:
http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIJYwPhPEAoA3uj7w8QF;_...
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