AA suicides

bad luck. Weak shit,strong shit. In fact who gives a shit? You see Becket, this forum was created by Orange. In case you haven't noticed YET. This entire site is anti AA. You and the others who in some ways favor AA have got all too comfortable on this site. Regardless of what is said by the anti AA people who come to an anti AA site to say whatever they choose to say. At least they respect the space of others who by participating on say a pro AA site are pretty much left alone. I check in and here you are acting like some sort of . Shit I can't even come up with a word that describes you anymore. It really doesn't matter what I think or whatever anyone else thinks right? I mean you never worry about how your posts are "perceived" do you? You are still holding the mirror up to everyones elses face eh Becket? Oh and by the way Becket. I want to let you know that every post that I have directed to you or other pro AA people has had a turd planted in it for you guys to step in. You have never never failed to step in it it either. I just sit back and watch. And there is a very simple reason for that. One that you will probably never get,you almost avoid them sometimes Becket but you always backtrack and step in it again and again. The other ones,their easy. Good luck with your 'filibuster' your just one keystroke away from VICTORY!! Yeah right!! You want definitive answers about what? Regarding what? Who the fuck are you ask anybody for anything on an ANTI AA forum? You push your way into these discussions Becket and then demand answers? Fuck off. I would never go on to a pro AA site and tell them that I feel that using a HP for the treatment of alcohol abuse is. It would be disrespectful. I respect their right to feel this way, but I just don't bother them. Thats their business. My views about AA are only directed at others out there who,like myself did not find AA helpful at all. Nor would I tell them that AA kills people because it fails to treat anything, Pile on a heaping portion of character defects, a little spiritual malady thrown in there for added flavor. Lets not forget the secret ingredient that really spices up this up POWERLESSNESS!! Pour all these things into a bowl (your brain) mix 'em up reeeaal goood and bring it to the head chef (sponsor) to taste. "Nope son there something missing here". "I think that whats REALLY needed here son is for you to throw in all of your resentments and your most private thoughts too. "Yah Yah that will do the trick". "Now this recipe takes awhile to cook son. " In fact most of the time it takes at least 90 days for these ingredients to even begin to meld and develop flavor". So I 'suggest' that you bring it in to a meeting everyday at least for the
first 90 days to see how everything is cooking. Give everybody a taste (share) so we can see how the flavor is coming along. Ok son? One last thing I need to tell you is that you must take this mixture with you everywhere. You can never leave it unattended otherwise it will go bad (relapse). So happily "trudge" along now son enjoy your life. Oh and if your mixture starts to taste a little funny ask God for some help He is an excellent chef.
So, an exagerrated example of the program? Don't know. It just came out this way today. But to a very sick person,who is desperate for help he/she will buy just about anything. Including this absurd stuff that I just wrote. Thats because 'The Program' is absurd to many people. It just doesn't make any sense .After all they are more than likely already depressed,upset,anxious. Self image, just a steaming pile of shit. Is that how one gets "better"? By kickin the shit out yourself some more? I think NOT!! It can make a person feel worse,much worse. So what I am saying is that if a person is already feeling down and the methods that are "suggested" do not work (non treatment) Coupled with all the stuff that I mentioned above (piling on) more negatives,then yes AA can have a part in a persons choice
to take their own life. In the end "Only you can help you". Peace