Dr. Bob and his grave are being celebrated starting this weekend June 8-10, 2012. Alcoholics Anonymous members can even be buried near him!

"don't even go there unless you can document such presumptions", ORDER #1, I'm not allowed to write what I think or feel, ORDER # 2 unless I can provide some documentation. I can't form an opinion without documentation according to you Beckett. Control Freak, the rooms & being a sponsor are the place for you.

My writing regarding roofers was that it is an unskilled occupation, the same as flipping burgers @ McDonald's, I did not write that roofers or McDonald employees are scum. You are grasping & lying. I wrote that the members @ the shrine looked physically capable of working. I wrote that roofers were the primary occupation of AA members in my area. You know that cults can manipulate people with weaknesses much more successfully than they can manipulate people who have education, jobs & a life. The AA members I met @ the shrine that day, were unemployed, they were renters, they lived across the street in a house that rented rooms. They probably are on welfare or disability, how else would they pay room rent, without jobs, they probably do get a monthly check. I did not write that if someone does not own a home, they have no identity, people who rent have identities, cult members do not. Every thing I wrote was about being a cult member, these guys had no jobs, no life outside of hanging @ the shrine, they were in their 40's & 50's & were not home owners, they rented rooms. If they weren't in the cult of AA, maybe they would focus their time & energy into getting jobs & having a home & life of their own. You deflected, lied & twisted my writing into a derail & non existent issue. This is what you do to be in control & to try to control what my self & others write. You & Clara both know that AA controls weak people, that is who stays & does not flee & reject. And you & Clara both know that being culted up, instead of having a job, a life, an identity, more in life to do & experience instead of making coffee @ the shrine & living in a rented room, is abnormal & sad. All cult members are sad, Beckett & you know it.

Do I like to complain about AA & Wilson & the frauds they are, I sure do! You know as well as I do that cult's prey on people with little education, skills or resources. Cults prey on the weak, you know this as well as I do, Clara. If I'm anti AA & anti the cult of AA, then I'm an advocate for the down trodden, vulnerable, weak, undereducated, unskilled & easy prey, Clara, not against them, for them.

Now you are deciding & decreeing what Clara has to say or not say, more control, you just don't stop, the need to control is relentless.

I have found "It is what it is" to be no more than acceptance. A situation is just what it appears to be, no less, no more. And I didn't hear this first in AA, either.

Beckett,
you can split hairs all you want, lie all you want, write demands, demand documentation, no matter how how you demand jump, no one is jumping Beckett, you are not in control here.