The Colorado Health site offers the supposed answer to tackling addiction in the family. Stepper cult member AND addiction counselor for Valley Hope Treatment Services wrote a touching piece advertising her services and of course, Al-Anon. That sure makes her job easy, just toss the 12 steps in their face and collect a paycheck.
The giveaway leading up to the shivering suggestion of going to Al-Anon were the popular words dispersed through the article:
" powerless", "hopeless", "disease", "terminally unique", "self destruction", "unmanageable", and "baffle".
Oh the drama she creates as well. It's so phony, she sounds pathetic:
It's like a "tornado" with "devastation, wreckage, and debris everywhere".
"Their lives feel twisted and out of control"
"Life is terrifying"
"How do you stop the brutal winds?"
Can she make the addict/alcoholic look any worse? There are often some problems in the home life of addicts but there isn't any reason that she should create the picture of complete chaos for the families of every person with a substance abuse problem. Talk about stigma and exaggeration! This reminds me of the inflated drunkalogs I heard in meetings.
This is a great example of how these XA meetings get represented to the public. Not anywhere in this article does Donna Schwartz mention the need to turn your lives over to a higher power. Why would the addict's family that is suffering such tragic fate need to make amends and confess their wrongs?
(hint: cult!)
PS. Notice the headline. It reads: "Tackling Addiction Within the Family". She doesn't discuss the "treatment" of the addict at all. Unless of course she's referring to the family members being addicted.
http://www.ourcoloradonews.com/health/mental_health/tackling-addiction-w...
"Trying to describe what life is like having a loved one, or being a loved one who is addicted, is too overwhelming to speak out loud for most people. The descriptions from family to family are amazingly similar, with specific details differing in each house-hold. One of the things I have marveled at through the years of working with families of substance abusing people is how much ‘commonality’ there is and how many people live feeling ‘terminally unique’; lonely and afraid not knowing where to turn for support or even realizing they need support.
I have compared the addiction in the family to a literal tornado; the impact is very much the same. There is devastation, wreckage, and debris everywhere. The dynamics of a tornado is that of creating havoc; sucking people in and spewing out harmful things. Anyone close to the tornado is pulled in...their lives feel twisted and out of control. Everyone is feeling powerless. Life feels unmanageable and terrifying. Where do you turn for safety? How do you protect and help people in danger? How can you stop the brutal winds from harming you and others you love? What is the answer?
If the one you love who is addicted is the tornado, there are some helpful things to know. First of all, you/we cannot stop a tornado! We cannot stop the addicted loved one from using! Before you feel hopeless by this reality, consider this truth... ‘what I can do is take care of myself; create safety for myself and my child loved ones impacted by the addicted loved one’s behavior.' Thinking we can stop a loved one’s addiction is about as logical as believing we can stop a tornado. I spent years trying and it wore me out.
How we can ‘help’ is to get help for ourselves; alanon meetings (which are meetings for loved ones of the addicted for insight and support) and/or seeing a therapist who understands families and addiction. In helping ourselves and learning ‘what’ we are dealing with, in our addicted loved one and within ourselves, we can intuitively know how to manage situations that used to baffle us and be capable of finding happiness and contentment, whether the addicted person still chooses to use or not.
Most people over time of dealing with a loved one’s abuse of chemicals will admit, in time, that their best choices to be ‘helpful’ and ‘loving’ did not change the loved one’s addicted behaviors. That would be an example of ‘powerlessness’. Most will also admit that they have had many sleepless nights and some anxiety/sadness attempting to ‘save’ their loved one from despair and self-destruction.
People who live in 12 Step Recovery, or other forms of recovery who have found support, help and safety in facing the ‘tornado’, with others who have been through one themselves, have found a peace in the midst of the storm--- and after the storm. I have personally not met someone who has the quality of life they long for, living in an addicted situation, without the support of recovery group, friends, literature, and meetings. Usually when a loved one stops ‘helping,’ the addicted person sees how the chemical use is impacting their own life; how consequences they are facing is due to their using vs. blaming everyone else for their problems. Trying to change without support and education is challenging for most of us. If you have questions about ways to step away from ‘the tornado’ while still caring about the one in the middle of it, please email me at donnas@valleyhope.com. Be good to YOU!"
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JR Harris
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 05:31
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Al-Anon, the gateway cult to Alcoholics Anonymous
Many people who join Al-Anon eventually end up joining Alcoholics Anonymous later in life. It isn't that they are hardcore drunks, they just talk themselves into believing that are an Alcoholic and in need of more rigorous Bill Wilson chanting and rituals.
Al-Anon was started by Bill Wilson to make his wife Lois more docile and ignore the fact that he was an unemployable, adulterous scum bag. It seems to have worked for him...
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
patti
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 13:42
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J.R.,
J.R.,
I had to listen to AA members, who started out in AA, then joined Al anon also. They talked themselves into needing Al anon, because their dead parents drank alcohol. They preached both, they were exhausting & doubly boring & had double psycho babble to parrot. Some of them also went to co-dependents anonymous, so they belonged to three groups, went to 3 meetings. The AA co-dependency thing, is just so stupid, they preach against co-dependency an anecdotal & another "sickness" made up by billshit, yet demand AA members are co-dependent upon AA for life, another anecdotal & made up billshit.
patti
disclosure
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 08:21
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A cunning and powerful gateway cult...
When I think gateway, I think gateway drug or a drug that leads up to harder drugs. Alanon infiltrates the family of the problem drinker, convinces them that their entire family has a disease, and then offers identification, conformity, empowering language, and faith as the solution. Family members of people in AA typically go to Alanon so that they can emotionally cope with their AA family member; however, Alanon can act as a gateway group if the non-drinking family member goes there to indoctrinate a drinker into AA. As a lifeline Alanon is an excellent support group for people who need help wording their defense in their power struggle with a problem drinker or anyone with an imaginary disease. Yes, Alanon teaches that the non-drinking family member in the alcoholic home also has alcoholism the disease. Alanon is a strongly female dominated program; the meetings I went to were at least 80% female with 70% of them in the 30 through 50 year old range. A noticeable percentage of the remaining members were gay males. Alanon offered me empowering language. They insinuated that I was "picking low hanging fruit" in my relationships. They taught me to detach from the problem drinker or non-symptomatic alcoholic so that I could be comfortable. They teach the use of fabricated personal boundaries to control others. Alanon slyly separates the member from their spouse and empowers them as long as the solution is AA. If the spouse does not want AA or can't find a solution on their own, well then, start packing for your new apartment and get the alimony or child support check ready. Welcome to servitude, the love of your life just threw your body away while keeping those low hanging fruits of your labor. Now you have some new and interesting choices if you believe what you have been told in AA and Alanon. You can really get some serious drinking done or you can go to AA and find serenity and the girl who understands. Just remember, in those small town groups it’s not your girlfriend, it’s just your turn. Wear a condom.
If you found this post you have an advantage, you have access to all the current possibilities as far as moderation or abstinence supports are concerned. You know that your spouse is detaching from you and that you are being offered a subtle passive ultimatum. You are empowered in the fight against cult like coercion.
Ironic
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 09:48
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12 Step nazis like to pretend
12 Step nazis like to pretend that everyone needs em-diseased or not
patti
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 13:45
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Yep.
Yep.
patti
becket
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 10:51
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How would you frame it
How would you frame it differently, avogadno? This person has clearly adopted the party line. How would you offer support to the still-suffering individual? I don't mean to ask you to tear apart what you've written here and draw attention to the alleged deceits and show-biz language you find within the Valley Hope Treatment Services counselor's pitch. I'm just interested in what you would say to someone who feel like s/he can't quit a drug of choice.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
JR Harris
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 13:38
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Al-Anon isn't talking to someone with substance abuse
Al-Anon is talking to the friends and family of someone they want you to coerce into the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous. Since it is a 12 Step counselor, he most likely is hoping that they will require his services at about $70 and hour, several times a week for many months years or even life.
Becket you are identifying the wrong cult, Al-Anon does not go after the substance abuser. Al-Anon goes after the family and friends of the prospect for the cult of Alcoholics Anonymous. You misidentified the cult. Shame on you.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
becket
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 15:17
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Is paranoia a disease or just
Is paranoia a disease or just willful misconduct?
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
becket
Fri, 06/15/2012 - 17:39
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You don't think spouses and
You don't think spouses and children of alcoholics suffer, JR Harris?
That really puts you squarely out of the running as far as participating here with authority.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Clara
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 15:01
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Go to Recoveryfromrecovery
Go to Recoveryfromrecovery and you'll see the same advice. I saw more AA/alanon over there than anything. When the guy was dope sick, the chants were "You can do it." "You are not alone." "Just stay away from the first one, I found abstinence to be the key." When the other one was back from a visit to the pokey to see a family member, the Alanon "keep the focus on yourself. Take care of yourself" lines were in full bloom. And even though no one is a lawyer or a doctor, you can sure find plenty of free legal and medical advice floating around. You can dice it anyway you want, but it is still a support group of like persons, sharing their experience, strength and hope.
It's a good thing, but does anyone see the hypocrisy?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
JR Harris
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 15:12
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That is a different forum Clara, what are you doing on it
The Orange Papers Mission Statement is...
One Man's Analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous and Substance Misuse Recovery Programs, and Real Recovery.
An Online Book
I don't believe that forum wants you their, why are you going where you are not wanted.
If you think you may be in a cult, it is probably Scientology or Alcoholics Anonymous.
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
becket
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 15:21
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If the Orange Papers Mission
If the Orange Papers Mission Statement is, "One Man's Analysis of Alcoholics Anonymous and Substance Misuse Recovery Programs, and Real Recovery", then Orange doesn't need you or anyone else to hawk his wares. He can do it himself. ONE MAN'S ANALYSIS. Not One Man's Plus JR Harris' Analysis.
What are you doing here? You're not a drunk or a survivor of anything. Oh, wait. There's that paranoia. OK. I'm pretty sure patti can fix that.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
Anthro
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 13:57
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I watched over the years as
I watched over the years as some who barely drank what I spilled on the bar "came to believe" through the powerful sales tactics- the war stories of drunkeness followed by battle cries for relief from the over-powering John Barleycorn, transform themselves before my very eyes into "real alcoholics" so they too, could come and hear the scriptures of Bill W. and be saved!!
Whatever makes these Alanon's slip into the back door so they too can become a REAL alcoholic and partake of the teachings of 12 stomp ideology?
Anthro
becket
Thu, 06/14/2012 - 15:22
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(Ask JR Harris. I think he
(Ask JR Harris. I think he thinks he's an AlAnon.)
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian