This was forwarded to me in an email today. Makes for an interesting read.
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Vatican board asked to resign over conference
Members of the Vatican's bioethics advisory panel have called for its board to resign after scientists who don't support core church teaching on issues like birth control and infertility were featured at its annual conference.
The members said the Pontifical Academy of Life's Feb. 24 conference on diagnosing and treating infertility was a "Planned Parenthood-like meeting" that caused great scandal. They were upset because it was a Vatican meeting open to the public yet "consisted in promoting uncritically what the church teaches to be intrinsically bad."
Church teaching opposes in vitro fertilization because it separates conception from intercourse between husband and wife, and often results in the destruction of embryos. The Vatican also opposes artificial contraception, holding that life begins at conception.
In the past, the academy has tended to invite only like-minded professionals to speak at its conferences, ensuring that its proceedings, papers and discussions reflect church teaching. Members say this is designed to give the faithful the best in scientific information that is in-line with Catholic doctrine.
Under the academy's new head, Monsignor Ignacio Carrasco de Paula, there seems to be a new openness however to engage with non-likeminded scientists while holding true to church teaching on the need to defend life from conception until natural death.
Josef Seifert, an academy member who is rector of the International Academy of Philosophy in Liechtenstein, wrote a letter May 4 to Carrasco suggesting that the Pontifical Academy's board resign. He cited the "enormous concern" of several members that the academy was "losing its full and pure commitment to the truth and its enthusiastic service to the unreduced magnificent church teaching on human life in its whole splendor."
The letter, first reported by the Catholic News Agency, said five of the first seven presentations dealt with the pill, artificial insemination and in-vitro fertilization from a purely neutral standpoint, neglecting any moral references.
"This alone is a great evil for a public congress sponsored by (the academy) because a neutral scientific description of methods of infertility treatment has absolutely no place in our academy, which was explicitly founded to deal with these matters in the light of anthropological, theological and moral truth," he wrote.
The Rev. Scott Borgman, the academy's coordinating secretary, said the academy was aware of the concerns reflected in Seifert's letter and was working to move forward. But in a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Borgman stressed that the academy's work also aimed at "creating dialogue with science and not closing ourselves off."
"Most of the members are congruous with the vision of the academy, which is able to understand at once what we believe, and hear other viewpoints knowing that we don't sustain or promote viewpoints which go against truth and the defense of human life from conception until natural death," he said.
He stressed that the academy was a scientific research institution "open to dialogue with the scientific world."
The academy is made up of its Vatican-based secretariat and a membership of Catholic medical doctors, philosophers, clergy and bioethicists from across the globe. It was founded by Pope John Paul II in 1994 to promote and defend human life and it serves as a key bioethical advisory board for the Vatican.
To some degree, the dispute reflects an apparent difference in vision between the secretariat and the more hard-core pro-life members.
But in another, it reflects a broader tension within the church over Pope Benedict XVI's aim to emphasize traditional Catholic identity in everything from Catholic universities to religious orders, while at the same time encouraging dialogue with scientists and even atheists. Some think you can't do both, and that the church merely creates confusion by engaging in such dialogue.
Christine de Vollmer, a founding member of the academy and president of the Latin American Alliance for the Family, said many academy members say the academy's current leadership isn't acting in line with what John Paul envisaged.
"It's clearly not in our statutes to bring up and re-study issues of human life that have already been decided," she said in a phone interview from her home in Caracas, Venezuela.
The statutes do allow for collaboration with non-Catholic and non-Christian scientists, but only if they "recognize that the dignity of man and the inviolability of human life from conception to natural death ... is the essential moral foundation of the science and art of medicine."
It was the second time the academy has come under fire from its members for its speakers' list this year.
In March, it hastily canceled a stem cell research conference whose speakers included scientists whose work involves human embryonic stem cells, which is opposed by the church. The academy said too few sponsors and participants had signed up to take part.
And in 2010, the academy's membership rebelled against its then-president, Monsignor Renato Fisichella, over his less-than-condemnatory comments about abortion. He was soon replaced.
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All the old cathoholic fags on their evil power trips, trying to get away with lying their ways through everything. They have NO fucking god given power over anyone or anything.
Their only god is their own cock sucking deceit.
So therefore their assertion that they are the guardians of the faithful and the church is also a fucking lie. The cathoholic church is a fucking fraud - it's the basis of NAZI-ism, and the demonstration of it's ministry of propaganda? The cathaholic church - the most evil of cults, is the ministry of propaganda. It's where all the unconscionable conduct has been benchmarked. They set the bench mark for deceit. Just like the fucking jews before them.
There is no such thing as being fucking jewish, or cathaholic - and their gods are fake. They are just arsehole manipulators manipulating everyone they can with their bullshit and standover merchanting their way through life, making people believe the crap they sell, and training their children to be brainwashed with their shit - just to keep the cunts in their own business.
All the lying, the manipulation, and the ethical bullying, and the stand over merchant antics and total mind fuck impositions and the outright lying followed up by the manipulative strong arming conformity - it sounds just like Bill Wilson and AA, doesn't it.
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btnben
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 03:34
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Never mind - Only one more Pope to go.
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/pandora.htm#MALACHY
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Jesus-is-Fraud
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 04:03
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He is talking about me here....
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/pandora.htm#MALACHY
"Petrus Romanus/Peter of Rome: The Final Pope? "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed
and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.
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Jesus-is-Fraud
Thu, 05/10/2012 - 19:17
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The degree of distorition of reality is astounding.......
""This alone is a great evil for a public congress sponsored by (the academy) because a neutral scientific description of methods of infertility treatment has absolutely no place in our academy, which was explicitly founded to deal with these matters in the light of anthropological, theological and moral truth," he wrote."
Breaking it up into conceptual chunks we get this:
"This alone is a great evil for a public congress sponsored by (the cathaholic academy)"
So he has made a DECLARATION - "It's EVIL"
"Because a neutral scientific description of methods of infertility treatment has absolutely no place in our academy,"
Followed by:
"Which was explicitly founded to deal with these matters in the light of anthropological, theological and moral truth," he wrote."
"In the light of anthropological, theological and moral truth," - There seems to be a gaping chasm between the word "anthropological" (meaning our inlaws have fleas and live in trees and fuck as a social activity) and the terms "theological and moral truth".....
Theological stands for "fairy stories, lies and making up the rules to suit yourself as you go along either for yourself or against others" and in operating as a legal entity - a corporation, so that no one is accountable, like the Poope does not go to jail if the people in the organisation get caught engaging in criminal activities, as one would in a sole proprietorship.
Moral truth.......
I have a REAL axe to grind with the ministries of propaganda, my good friend Adolf H. from the Austrian Combined Ministries of god AA group, even noted how the religionists have (seemingly) perfected the art of mass manipulation.
I did actually try to read his book, Mein Krumpet, but twas a HARD read. The rantings of a battered child from an alcoholic home... are hard to read.
Addy was a cathoholic too... He shared his gods love, from his church, with the whole planet.
Jesus-is-Fraud
Fri, 05/11/2012 - 00:46
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Church Teaching???????
"Church teaching opposes"
Who exactly is "the Church"?
Ummmm has there ever been a VOTE taken where ALL members of the cult actually have a say so on the issue?
"Church teaching opposes in vitro fertilization because it separates conception from intercourse between husband and wife, and often results in the destruction of embryos. The Vatican also opposes artificial contraception, holding that life begins at conception."
So almost all fertilised embryos die anyway - as a matter of course.....
AND just because it's in a glass tube.... instead of through straight sex (Oh fuck no I said the S word) and then the embryos are replanted back inside the body makes it WRONG? Oh does it?
"The Vatican also opposes artificial contraception" you mean the use of condoms and such like to stop the spread of some really fucking horrible diseases, and UNWANTED pregnancies and MORE children.
So is it the old cock sucking fags in Vatican who oppose it, or is it the church, or more to the point , THAT church? And who exactly is the church?
The imaginary son of a non existant diety, that fucked his own daughter?
The cult of Judeaism, said that was all bullshit - that JC was not the holy prophet - they should know they are the experts on fake deities - starting with their own.
So the cathaholics are experts on fake deities, that never existed, and they are making up rules to suit themselves as they go along, in order to be able to run the lives of other people, based upon solid scientific proof, that they also made up to suit themselves as they went along.
Invitro fertilisation? You mean if it was left up to these fucking cock sucking morons in the vatican, we'd be walking around thinking that the sun revolves around the earth and it's flat too.
Oh shit - time for my Arseholes Anonymous meeting, gotta go grovel at the font of Bill Wilson's pseudo religious scamware, without which I cannot possibly get sober.......
"And the room filled with light" - because I turned the switch on!
Jesus-is-Fraud
Fri, 05/11/2012 - 01:33
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Alois Hitler June 7, 1837 –
Alois Hitler June 7, 1837 – January 3, 1903) was the father of Adolf Hitler. Baptized Roman Catholic at infancy. Remained Roman Catholic his whole life.
Cathoholic / Alcoholic - used to bash the crap out of Adolf when he was a child...
Klara Hitler (August 12, 1860 - December 21, 1907), was the mother of Adolf Hitler by her husband Alois. She was a devout Roman Catholic and went to church regularly.
"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.." Hermann Rauschning, former national-socialist chief of the government of Dantzig: "Hitler m'a dit", (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss).