Something Interesting I Noticed

I never heard anyone admit there was any other way. There is the part in the big book that talks about drinking only on the weekends, only natural wine, never in the mornings, etc. Then people chuckle about this folly as being the alternatives. They also have said that joining a church is inadequate to maintain sobriety even though they present spirituality as being the only answer. I have never heard anyone say there was any other way. And if \"Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety\" was the truth, they would tell people there are alternatives which have been around long enough for AA to know about them and be able to suggest looking elsewhere when AA isn\'t working for them. But it\'s obvious AA isn\'t about sobriety, it\'s about religion.

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\"I noticed that Clara amuses the men here at OPF but has totally pissed off all the women (most of whom would rather see her banned, I think).
Anyone else noticed this is divided along gender lines, somewhat? I think the men have a higher tolerance for marietta/becket.\"

I think men have a higher tolerance for bullshit than women do. However, I\'m not saying the \'accussed\' talk anymore bullshit than anyone else on here. We all have the capacity for bullshit.

I think the site would become very boring indeed if we only had anti-AA chit chat. The other side of the arguement is also required for balance. Having said that, the parrot fashion chanting of AA slogans and literature is not an arguement at all.

I also think women are deeper creatures than men and tend to think about things more and are more easy offended. Becket is the exception to that rule. She has the skin of a rihnoceros. I bet she smells and looks like one too.

I agree with Dolson when he said in an earlier post that the site needs to be moderated and repeat offending robo troll derailers need to given a warning and then banned if they don\'t toe the line.

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I rarely read any of the troll posts if I can help it and am often disappointed when I click on a new post link only to see it is from one of hose idiots. They prevent any discussion by annoying everyone,so if anyone from AA did come on here such as the lot from AA cultwatch who are moderate and who try to change things from the inside they probably would not stay too long as many reacte strongly to any pro AA talk because they are so fed up with hearing that crap.
The forum has become polarised with those with strong opposing views dominating the postings. This may make others who are reading the posts less inclined to comment and so I feel some moderation ,especially where threads are constantly being derailed by constant pointless little posts,would help.
The forum is very hard to follow especially if you don\\\'t have time to drop in throughout the day. Again, this is caused by he endless ,pointless and childish posts from many of the trolls.
I guess the only way to stop this is to keep an eye on this place and start banning people who are simply coming here to argue and be disruptive. They claim to be doing otherwise but obviously lead very odd lives if they rely on arguing on a blog day after day for entertainment. They may even consider it some kind of service work or AA, but they simply appear foolish to the majority. I guess that an obsession with AA could lead to an obsession about blogging about it, especially if you are treating it like a religion. It is hardly living a balanced life but then all AA members claim to be mentally Ill and powerless so perhaps this sort of behaviour is what we should expect. We used to get a lot of trolling on stinkin thinkin, JD probably being the biggest arse with his delusions and so it does seem to go with the territory.
It would be good if orange could include an ignore user button which would give people the option to read certain posters drival if they felt so inclined and allow the rest of us to interact in a more ordered fashion, as the threads would not be so derailed and those user\\\'s posts could be renabled if it became apparant that others were responding to their posts and you wanted a quick look to see if there was anything worth reading from the trolls.
I did have a go at writing a troll and trollet filter in greasemonkey for Firefox but the way the tables load in this site are a little strange compared to a normal forum so it caused some formatting problems when I used it to delete certain posters. I may look at this in the future but I\\\'m pretty busy at the moment.if anyone on here is good at JavaScript they may be able to make a better job than me. However I am now using an I pad most of the time to browse the net and so it would not work for that so a delete user function tied to our login would be great and maybe fairly easy to implement.

So Clara’s husband has installed a facility on her computer for making sure she doesn’t read my comments? That is very, very funny. (And a bit ironic in this particular case, as I was saying I wouldn’t want to see her banned – how ungrateful is that!) But I can understand why he wouldn’t want her to read some of the stuff written here: He is a stepper, after all, and there have been one or two friendly hints given that Clara, Wife #3 (AA Wife #2), might do well to be slightly cautious about this paragon of 12 step virtue who chooses or dumps his wives on the basis of their quality of sobriety.

Clara is obviously one of those people who can give it out (in spades) but can’t cope with any of it herself. A person who is completely insensitive to others, but is so, so precious and emotionally vulnerable when it comes to anyone picking her up on some of the nonsense she spouts about other people. The kind of person who, when criticizing others, protests that it is just an innocent opinion, but, when it comes to herself, whines that it is bullying and stalking (goodness knows how she managed to interpret any of my comments in those ways - the very worst thing I have ever said to her is that she should grow up). But the beauty of this is that it means I won’t have to put up with any of her complacent, smugly superior, but also very slyly malicious comments in response to my posts.

The aim should be to get her husband to block the comments of ALL of us, so that her innocent sensibilities won\\\'t be sullied by the heresy we talk here. Then we might be able to get on with some kind of intelligent conversation about what is a hugely serious and important issue to most of us.

Actually, it just struck me that even though Clara isn\'t allowed to see my comments any more, perhaps Mr Clara still can? If so, welcome, Mr Clara - why don\'t you join in the dabate?

HS why are you blocked from Clara?

I don\'t know. I can only guess that what I was saying was getting a bit uncomfortable for her and she wants to bury her head in the sand. See Clara\'s posts at about 4.30 yesterday on this page - this is the first I heard of it.