Pain while sleeping

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Submitted by avogadno on Sat, 04/28/2012 - 11:39

Hi all, on a personal level I\'ve been having pain while I sleep. And I wonder if anyone, particular Suboxone users, have experienced something similar. Btw, I also take Cymbalta, Zoloft, and half of an Ambien at night.

I almost always wake up to extreme soreness in my arms and hands. I occasionally wake to pain in my abdomen as well. It seems more like muscle pain just below my rib cage. This is more debilitating, but doesn’t happen as often. For the first 5 minutes of every day I lay in bed and have to massage my arms, hands, and stomach area. I am unable to to get myself out of bed unless I do. I\'ve never experienced arthritis, but I imagine what I am experiencing is a close relation. Oddly, these pains lesson as the day goes on and by midafternoon I don\'t feel anything.

I know that I should see a doctor, and I may not have much choice. However one of my fears though is that I\'ll be told to stop taking the Suboxone, something that I do not want to do. If this is the cause, I\'d much rather trade the benefit I receive for this soreness. Unless of course it continues to get worse.

Does anyone else have similar problems? I wonder how you counter it. Please keep in mind that this only happens at night when I\'m most relaxed. My husband tells me that I habitually hold my arms in the air during the night, he kind of makes fun of me for it. I occasionally softly rub the top of my head as well. Could it be muscle soreness from holding my arms out all night? As odd as it is instead relaxing them by my side, I hold them up and forward while I sleep.

Just thought I\'d ask. Thanks in advance! ~Avo

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Ironic

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 12:35

Avo I suppose it\'s a possibility that you are waking up in withdrawal and that is the reason you are sore, but I don\'t think so. Any abdomen pain could be from the Sub, possibly..shit will certainly back up your plumbing and gas can be very painful.

To me it sounds like a non-Suboxone related problem.

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avogadno

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 13:00

This is like a muscle ache or tendon type thing. I can\'t imagine it\'s gas/shit related, lol, because it\'s only when I sleep and gets better if I rub or massage the area inflicted. Ever get a \"knot\" in your stomach from tensing? It\'s like that, only hurts a lot more. Kind of like if I was holding my breath for a long time. I have been \"secretly\" cutting back on my dose of the Sub though, because I\'m paranoid of running out. Who knows, like Ed said with all of the combinations it could be anything. I just don\'t want to be told to stop taking it though. That\'s my fear with the doc.

Oh funny Ironic, I asked my Psy why I couldn\'t have Subutex. I mentioned my \"friend\" that lived in FL that takes it ;) Haha, he told me to stay away from you, that the tex was just like heroin. I knew the answers to what I was asking, I was really trying to make it clear that I didn\'t appreciate him not giving me full explanation of the med side effects. Until last month he still had not gone over how dependent this drug is and/or the danger of \"using\" or having any surgery without going off of it.

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Ed

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 12:37

It could be a reaction to one of the drugs or combination of the drugs and yes you should see a doctor.

mfc66uk

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 13:24

I am sorry to read you are having some problems. I would urge you to see a Dr as something is amiss. There may be quite a simple solution such as anti imflamatories etc. I do a lot of stretching and exercising these days and that helps me a lot but I would always advise professional help. Hope you feel better soon.

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avogadno

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 19:10

Thanks mf, and all, it\'s nice to hear get well wishes.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 14:34

Wow. That man deserves to have his license revoked. You know that\'s not true, of course :) for a non IV user like you, it\'s one and the same (and I have never once IV or IMed Subutex or Suboxone so that goes for both of us). Some people say you can IM the Xone too, actually. I will not be attemtping this lol.

Why are you worried about a doctor telling you to go off? They probably won\'t even know what it is unless you tell them, none of mine do and I am in South Florida! I would go to the doctor if I was you..maybe a different doctor? The worst they can do is tell you they don\'t approve.

Cutting back your dose may be a good thing. I think 1 mg/day is enough to get the beneficial effects from Sub, less even. Google Temgesic. See how tiny those doses are??

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 16:49

Great. I was looking at the interaction of Cymbalta and Zoloft when taken together and it\'s highly recommended no to NOT do this.

\"A severe interaction is possible between Zoloft and Cymbalta medicine after their combine use. The severity of symptoms varies from person to person and it depends upon the dosage and concentration of medicine. If you are taking higher dosage then you will face more and severe side effects.
The serotonin syndrome is a serious disorder and it can cause death of patient.\"

Also, here is something I read about Cymbalta Side Affects:

\"trouble sleeping; sluggishness; stiff muscles; stomach pain\".

Darn Doctor told me if I had a fever I should contact him or if I was puking. It appears that this might be the problem so bye bye Cymbalta.

And I will see the doc, make a date on Monday. Thanks everyone for your input.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 17:38

Maybe it\'s your gall bladder. Not kidding.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 17:51

Thanks becket, but I don\'t have a gall bladder anymore.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 18:01

Me neither. That\'s why I suggested it! :D

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 19:17

A poll question perhaps, but I\'m curious. What was worse in your opinion, a gall bladder attack before the surgery or childbirth?

My uncle said gall bladder (of course), my Mom says childbirth.

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Sun, 04/29/2012 - 10:50

Apples and oranges. For me it was the birth; seven hours of back labor (baby was not breech but upside down, occiput posterior - she came out face up); then an epidural. No progress for four more hours. Then wham! Baby was too big. She was in the birth canal and they were talking about pushing her back up further into the body to do a section. They attached a soft cup vacuum extractor to her scalp and tried to extract her that way while a nurse was literally sitting on top of me, trying to push the baby out. No go. Finally the doctor did a low forceps delivery. Eight pounds thirteen ounces. Fifty-five sutures on the episiotomy. My daughter has never had any feeling on the top of her scalp because of the nerve damage.

Gall bladder - meh. That was a breeze. EMTs thought I was having a heart attack so they gave me nitro in the ambulance. But it was nothing compared to the birth experience.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 17:43

Don\'t let the fear keep you from going. Just because he might advise it, doesn\'t that mean he would make it unavailable to you? It seems like a medical necessity.

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avogadno

Sat, 04/28/2012 - 17:57

Yes, you are of course right Clara. And I\'m biting the bullet and going to go. I\'ve been caring for my Mom and was over there today. I could hardly run the vacuum my hand hurt so bad trying to grip the handle. This after I said that it goes away, the pain lessening throughout the morning. Oh and then driving home, gripping the steering wheel was very difficult. I really think it\'s a med issue though, maybe the combination. Knock on wood for me. Thanks for the input.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 17:58

I agree you should drop the Cymbalta or the Zoloft. Do the research and taper properly (at least for Zoloft. Idk about Cymbalta). Failing to do so will hurt, badly.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 19:15

Good point Ironic, I know it\'s definitely no picnic to go off an anti D. The brain zaps alone make me want to break into a pharmacy.

Speaking of which, I don\'t want to name names because I\'m not sure what this person wants others to know, but there is a member of the OPF that went off a 24 mg dose of Sub - cold turkey!! Can you frickin imagine? Not just the pain but for that long?

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 20:59

I\'d sooner shoot myself in the face, thank you very much. I\'ve been on it awhile though..down to .325/day!

Whoever that was, wow!!

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 21:29

I hope it is a simple thing, it sounds to me like you have an inflamed nerve in your,
yes you guessed it, decollette (I call it your Pam). Especially from holding your hands up at night which could arch your back and inflame the rib cage.

Try what I did and get some bed risers so the head of the bed is higher than the foot. It may feel funny at first but may help. And keep arms at your side as if in a sling.

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Sat, 04/28/2012 - 21:32

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Sun, 04/29/2012 - 10:31

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