Newcomers Rescue League

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Submitted by btnben on Wed, 04/11/2012 - 17:14

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Those posters who are familiar with the OP will know the concept dreamt up by Orange. It is an imaginary (as yet) organisation whose aim is to save the newcomer from the grasps of the cult (sounds so ominous...lol). In reality, I'm sure that most of the anti folk on here went to AA because they were misinformed . The problem then was that, after entering through those doors, the REAL job of misinformation began.

I've noticed, over the last few days, new names logging in. Several haven't posted yet, and I thought it could be a good idea to have a thread every few weeks/months about what is happening here as a forum, what plans do people have to get the truth out there, and even how they feel about not going to meetings etc. Just an idea.

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btnben

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:14

Rather than makes page long posts or ranting on and on or being blatantly abusive, why not just calm down and say what is upsetting you? I'm starting to worry about your blood pressure...lol

What shit am I getting away with? Get it out there - show everyone...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:23

I think I've made my case.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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btnben

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:25

Keep going on - you're so boring.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:10

You don't like to be in the spotlight unless you get to hold the lamp and point the beam, do you? Yet here you are, continually sacrificing your freedom and happiness, "enduring boredom", to interact with me here.

Can you explain that?

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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btnben

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:27

What are you on about nutjob?...lol. I'm off now - be back to taunt you some more tomorrow. You are just too easy Marietta...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:37

I wasn't addressing you, Narcissism Boy. You think I'm easy? Ha - look who's showing my posts to friends for their opinions and support!

What a maroon.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

billybudd

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 21:56

ben, who vociferously abhors AA, solicits opinion from a "steptard" by showing print-outs from OPF posts "to someone in AA" (mid-meeting??), no doubt all the while ranting and "lol"-ing like a lobotomized loon with his smug pose and condescending demeanor. Then this "someone in AA" mentions the preponderance of "mentally ill people", and ben can't quite construe to whom the recognition alludes.

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btnben

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:29

I don't vociferously abhor AA - I just think it is dangerous and should be highlighted as such. The fact that it is based on insanity just makes it more fun.

When was your last logic class? All steptards are in AA but not all members of AA are steptards. You are forgetting : universal affirmatives can only be partially converted.

The guy I showed it to is helping me in starting a SMART meeting here. I think he has known the truth for a long time but didn't know what to do about it. He swapped one bad habit (drinking) for another bad habit (AA).

I love the way Marietta always says I show people for support. Total rubbish. Cruel as it may be, the rantings of the mad are funny.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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becket

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:03

Yes, you always find each dangerous situation in life absolutely knee-slappingly hilarious, full of opportunity to mock people for the choices that they've made.

Ugly stuff, btnben.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

billybudd

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 17:58

All right, ben. Continue silently highlighting dangers you're indifferent toward. I'll let you slide for the lucidity-damaged phrasing which led to a reading where you appear ridiculous just that once.

Of course we're all familiar with the cruel rantings you "show people" on this forum. Do you tack on "lol"s when you display your "talent" IRL? Does the maniacal glee, when shown, lighten the gravity of your cruelty or exacerbate the insanity of your rantings?

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:23

I have offered no "unbelievable stories" here. I have not said I know anything about what is "going on in the rooms" today. Please, JR Harris, quit fabricating and concentrate either on cutting and pasting or finding a new wife to wipe your furrowed brow.

If you think anything I say is foolish, then how is it harming you? Why don't you just stand back and ignore my posts?

You can't, can you?

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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JR Harris

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:27

Are you feeling guilty and having a need to defend yourself?

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:29

marietta forgot to put his clara hat on before writing the first sentence. He wrote as becket.

marietta = becket = clara

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:45

The truth would cause you great shame, dolson. becket and clara are two very different individuals. We are online here at the same time - can you explain how we are both showing on the list of users? Oh, one of us has two laptops in different rooms of the house and we go running back and forth to take you on in your pathetic arguments? Who would bother?

Wherever Marietta is, I think it would be interesting if she would come back. She wasn't stupid, from what I've read. A pistol, but not a dumb one.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 15:27

The truth would cause you great shame, dolson

Try me.

becket and clara are two very different individuals.

That is how you attempt to portray it old man.

Oh, one of us has two laptops in different rooms of the house

No, just you old man.
There are no others.

we go running back and forth to take you on in your pathetic arguments?

I do not argue.
I simply call you on your bullshit.
Who are we - old man?

Who would bother?

Why you do, marietta.

Wherever Marietta is, I think it would be interesting if she would come back. She wasn't stupid, from what I've read. A pistol, but not a dumb one.

You think highly of yourself old man marietta.
You are the troll here.

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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Clara

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 16:45

You can ask Orange to verify. He has IP addresses. I have asked him to... because the obsession with it takes precedence over any topic at all.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 16:56

You can ask Orange to verify.

Not my problem troll.

He has IP addresses.

What does that prove? Trolling by proxy?

I have asked him to

That should expedite your next banning marietta becket.

because the obsession with it takes precedence over any topic at all.

Precedence over what?
Your flaming?
Your trolling?
Your stalking of forum members here?
How's that fake thesis coming along?
Come on old man, your deflection efforts are waning.

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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Clara

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:11

Something is wrong with you, Dolson. No one is trolling, stalking or flaming beyond yourself.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:24

Something is wrong with you, Dolson. No one is trolling, stalking or flaming beyond yourself.

Come on Robo Troll - you'll have to deflect better than that.

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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alkieanon

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 07:23

dolson says: "Come on Robo Troll - you'll have to deflect better than that."

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Distort, distort, distort, distort. Deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:37

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Deflect, deflect, deflect, deflect. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Having a few beers tonight johnny?

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:39

: )

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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alkieanon

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 07:42

Mmmm, Special Sauce (Big Mac).

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JR Harris

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 20:11

your order defender of the AA faith? It's a Spiritualist, not religious experience you will not want to miss! Of course topped with Ed's specials secret sauce!

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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alkieanon

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 20:25

I love Krabby Patties,
I think that they are swell,
They are the best,
There's no contest,
And now I'm going to yell...
Woo!

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Persephone In Exile

Mon, 04/16/2012 - 12:31

They still make those things? Dang....

http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/

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alkieanon

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 15:46

No point, per the usual conversations. Actually, pointless. Not really expecting for any forum member to change their opinion(s) due to argument(s) presented by other forum members.

Definitely not drinking the Kool-Aid.

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:14

Inanity, dolson. Fabricated offenses built by the indolent.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:12

Clara: "You can ask Orange to verify."
dolson: "Not my problem troll."

Actually, this seems to be your biggest problem here. You are operating on wild, erroneous assumptions and making a total ass out of yourself with your baseless claims. I find it quite hilarious! Keep spinning. Keep wasting time. Keep inventing "realities". It's getting late - much later than you think.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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JR Harris

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:15

and so does the Orange Papers forum............

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:19

Google knows you've totally run dry on topics of mild interest.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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JR Harris

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 20:12

Yahoo is barely touched territory............. until now.....

"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:05

Don't know what you think you're calling Marietta on but you have revealed exactly nothing about me. You don't know the first thing about me except what I've posted. You have a woody over thinking you do, but I'm just gonna sit back and watch it shrivel because you have nothing.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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dolson

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:25

Don't know what you think you're calling Marietta on but you have revealed exactly nothing about me.

That's what you think you old misogynist.
Your trolling is classic marietta = becket.
Clara is another character, maybe she's one of the voices in your head.
You still enjoy watching another man's woody old man?
You are indeed still an old queen at heart.

Go ahead, enjoy yourselves - it's getting late, much later than you think.

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:15

*incredulous laughter*

*pity*

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:40

Just keepin my side of the street as clean as I can under the circumstances, doll.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 16:50

Hey judge No Balls becket.

I just got home from work.

Do you have a job?

No Balls becket said "Just keepin my side of the street as clean as I can..."

Judge, you must be referring to the AA/12 Step side (your side) of the street. Your side of the street must be difficult to keep clean, what with all the blood spilled as a result of AA/12 Steps killing people around the world.

Judge, they say the #1 cause of suicide is depression.
They say depression is often times found in "alcoholics"
AA/12 Steps ideology often times increases depression in AA/12 Step "alcoholics"
Increased depression in AA/12 Step followers increases the suicide rate among the "alcoholics" of AA.

Judge, you will undoubtedly deny this truth because "denial" is a common "character defect" in AA/12 Steptards.

AA/12 Steps kill people.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:10

I've been working since 8:00 a.m. Why?
My side of the street is clean as a whistle. I've not killed anyone and there's no blood on the sidewalk.
There is simply no evidence that AA "kills" people. When you provide credible studies that illustrate beyond any doubt whatsoever that the program of AA is actually a noose-bearing, gun-toting, knife-wielding insane person who manually murders people I may consider what you bring to the table. Otherwise, beat it.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 17:48

that you are working and not one of the unemployed or unemployable 12 steppers. : )

Thanks for your "denial" post. It really is classic 12 steptard denial.

becket said "..the program of AA is actually a noose-bearing, gun-toting, knife-wielding insane person who manually murders people.............." To funny judge No Balls becket. Ha!

yep, AA/12 steps kill people.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:14

First, laugh. Then prove it.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:31

I have already proven the truth of my conclusion that AA/12 steps kills people No Balls.

By using logic and reason I previously (months ago) showed that the conclusion that AA/12 steps increases the suicide rate in AA "alcoholics" to be true. You obviously are free to disagree.

The arguments I made and the conclusion reached are there to be viewed and the reader can reach their own conclusion.

Please note, however, that I used logic and reason, 2 character qualities that are sorely lacking in steptards. After all, When Faith Enters, Reason Exits, eh becket?

Have a nice day now.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

gigi

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:33

I really wish that you would stop saying "steptard." It makes me cringe.

"If I forget who I am, I am myself. If I remember who I am, I am you."

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 20:22

aint gonna happen.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 19:18

Not so fast, liar: here's what becket actually wrote:

"When you provide credible studies that illustrate beyond any doubt whatsoever that the program of AA is actually a noose-bearing, gun-toting, knife-wielding insane person who manually murders people I may consider what you bring to the table." Getting a little blade-happy, aren't you live_free_or_lie?

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 20:21

AA Kills people, Steptard.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Thu, 04/12/2012 - 22:15

Prove it. Your word is nothing. Substantiate your claim.

Prove it.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:40

I don't have to prove anything to you judge.

My argument was made in an earlier post (month ago-you can find it) and correctly concluded that AA/12 steps increases the suicide rate in steppers.

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:05

Allegations. I'm searching for truth. If what you say is true, it shouldn't be so hard to corroborate it. Try again.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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live_free_or_die

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 17:40

AA/12 steps kills people.

In fact, George Vaillant proved it as well in his famous study. Look it up. Truth.

Did you work today judge?

Alcoholics Anonymous: MyNotGodHasItCovered®
http://www.expaa.org/
http://bereanresearch.com/
http://badrecovery.blogspot.com/
NOT AA:
Rational Recovery, SOS, HAMS
http://alcoholabusesolutions.com/

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becket

Fri, 04/13/2012 - 18:55

It's a comprehensive job just responding to you, sweetie.

Your saying something does not wave the Truth Wand over it, deeming it irrefutable fact. It's good to have opinions, but what you're suggesting is just plain ridiculous. Sorry.

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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