Counter Speech

I can remember the furor at the time over all of those dead people because one man wanted his daughter out of there... It was interesting to read at the time taht if the Congressman hadn't gone there, those peope might still be alive albeit in a cult. Even other parents that wanted their children home had horribly mixed feelings about it.

But I don't equate James Jones and his cult with AA in any fashion. I have never been forced to do anything I didn't want to do.

If the point wasn't to present AA and supporters of AA as minorities, then it seems to me that clarifying this in your post would be a responsible approach, seeing that you did quote the man. For someone that expects “responsibility” from others and suggests that some haven’t acted accordingly, you should be willing to carry on in the same fashion.

What else was said within what you quoted something you didn't mean? What about that this is "hate speech"?

That was rather bold, particularly misleading as well as an accusatory message. This isn't a fellowship, group, or organization of any kind. There are no rules or "traditions" in which anyone here is obliged to follow. There has also been NO talk of prejudices against any race or ethnicity and there has been no actions or threats regarding any physical harm.

If ganging up and bullying was the point then perhaps that is what your blog should be about. Where did that happen that the tables weren't turned? If I went to a meeting and tried to express my differences there I'd expect that others would speak up in the defense of AA. There would likely be an outcry.

This isn't an organized debate and there is no group responsibility because we aren't a group. We're individuals. As individuals we express ourselves in different ways. Same as AA supporters that come to this forum, you are not responsible for another’s behavior.

Explain "there is a reason for it" when talking about hidden meetings in AA.

By the way, Washington DC is area 13 of Alcoholics Anonymous and the birthplace of Midtown by Mike Q, who was a Sponcee of Clancy I. I think that "hidden meetings" in that context are very dangerous.

Stories of the Midtown Group of Alcoholics Anonymous, Washington DC
http://orange-papers.org/orange-Midtown_stories.html

Clara, I was stating that people in the OPF have not been keeping agendas secretive or having meetings of any kind, and I was defending Alkie's indications about people of this forum. I wasn’t saying that this was an action of AA.

There has been nothing “hateful” in regards to anyone’s conduct here, and certainly no reason to post as if we have a specific itinerary that needs defense from some kind of online cruelty. There is no basis for that whatsoever. If anything, we are all engaging in our constitutional right of free speech.

I thought that Alkie pointing out it was only my opinion was very unnecessary , lol. Especially seeing that I began my comment by specifically stating such. It was his/her way of saying, "No, that's not true". I never expect any kind of admission, but wanted to express that I knew and I am not falling for most of the offered reasoning behind their presence and behaviors.

I stand by informal commitment to post regularly, even if lately it has been the need to show that I'm not going anywhere, or run and hide out of fear of an argument. However senseless some discussions become.

Ironic, what is your picture of??

It is researching the hypocrisy of the 12 Step cult known as Alcoholics Anonymous and various mini-cults it has spawned. The only reason that I can see someone coming here is to deprogram from the Stockholm Syndrome that AA gives its members.