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Staying sober can boil down to just such a choice, we have learned. We can spend hours thinking of reasons that we want or need or intend to take a drink. Or we can spend the time listing reasons that drinking is not good for us and abstaining is more healthful, and listing things we can do intead of drinking.
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becket
Sat, 03/24/2012 - 23:24
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When you awaken, justme, you
When you awaken, justme, you might see if you can learn some of Robert Johnson's tunes on the piano. They will lose in translation from guitar but they will gain in the dusting off. Warning: authenticity may require 14 vodka martinis. For starters. I bet he will inspire you. He does me. He does billybudd.
“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:11
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I LOVE Robert Johnson!
I love a lot of the old blues players and Robert Johnson was incredible! Never thought of playing his stuff on the piano. Interesting idea. But I certainly wouldn't try it after even having ONE martini. haha
By the way, Becket, I woke up and I hated the paintings I was working on and I have a terrible headache plus I'm pretty sure the poem I wrote is meaningless. This is the problem with alcohol. I felt terrific last night. I feel terrible today. :(
justme
Sat, 03/24/2012 - 21:50
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...
whoops. posted in the wrong place, sorry.
no way to delete.
billybudd
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 07:07
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thank justyou
to this inspiration a muse
my esteem exalts to meet her
and thus mangy doggerel
rears merely poor poetry, um, er ...
Thanks and blessings and best wishes and perfect peace.
"Into the mountain, I will fall"
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:15
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and peace to you too
Good to meet you, too.. peace and blessings back to you. Enjoyed last night but hating today. Life goes on. Whaddya know? "You can't fall off a mountain." I feel like I fell off one. ;)
jonnijoy
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 04:59
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Wow! That exchange was
Wow! That exchange was completely nauseating. Lol a newbie showcasing her poetry on here. lol Why dont we have a talent show, we can post videos, show-off our talents and act like true blue face bookers. Goodnight dear friends. incredible just incredible.
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:27
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I speak in poetry sometimes.
Dear jonnijoy..
Sorry if you didn't like it. I plan on continuing to do what I have always done. When I feel like replying to a post with poetry because the muse strikes me to do so, I will do it, no matter what type of website I'm posting on, whether it's a writing site or not. I write spontaneously. It' just what I do. I wasn't "showcasing" my poetry. I was writing. I'm a writer. I was replying to a post with poetry. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
If it "nauseates" you.... don't read it. That is your CHOICE. If you don't like the fact that I write poetry, that's your problem. I don't care.
And yeah, actually, i was thinking of starting a Poetry Therapy thread on this site and still might do it. Writing is cleansing and healthy and good for people. Should I carry through with this idea, feel free NOT to join in as it will no doubt make you feel nauseated.
I'll echo you in the "incredible" comment. It's absolutely incredible the rudeness I've witnessed on this site. If you spoke to anyone like that on my website, I would send you a private message to let you know you had violated the terms of service by posting a personal attack and it would be your one and only warning. If you personally attacked someone after that, I would ban you. That quick. Yep.
Have a good day.
Pennywise
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:54
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Trapped in the roomz of AA
Trapped in the roomz of AA
We hold hands, we chant, and we pray
We get down on our knees,
And ask the Lord please,
Take all our defects away...
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid."
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:26
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All members are anonymous.
All members are anonymous.
But none can be autonomous.
They sacrifice their self esteem
to steps and rules so harsh, extreme,
they lose their own identity
to some imagined entity,
relinquish their empoweredness
until they feel like so much less
than what they were before AA,
told they will die if they don't stay.
So sad these rooms which steal the lives
of friends and family, husbands, wives.
They're deemed a failure from the git
and struggle more because of it.
JR Harris
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:34
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That is great justme!
You were talking about starting your own thread based on poetry, that would be a great start!
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:42
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thx JR
I liked Pennywise's poem very much! His poem inspired this one. So, maybe I'll start a creative writing thread. It might be useful to people to open up and write creatively about their experiences in AA or anything else. Writing is good therapy. I'm glad you think it might be a good idea!
avogadno
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:02
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I like this one justme :=)
I like this one justme :=)
I prefer poetry that is simple and easy to read/understand as opposed to verse that needs scrutiny to find a hidden message. The one above doesn't appear to have words chosen only to fit the flow, but rather were used to deliver a message while still carrying a comfortably rhythm.
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justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:22
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thanks
Some people don't like poetry at all. I write a lot of different styles. Yeah, the one last night was a little out there... 'cause I was a little out there!
Trisha K.
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 14:23
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Robert Bly is a favorite of mine recently.
Poetry would bring a sense of ease to this site. I believe every site has their mission statement and the members bring their individuality (uniqueness) to the mission.
“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 14:58
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Hi Trisha
Thanks for the encouragement. Not sure yet whether the idea I had will fit well on this site or not. I might try a thread and see what happens.
I've read a few Robert Bly pieces. I like what I've read. He has one poem called "After Drinking All Night with a Friend, We Go Out in a Boat at Dawn to See Who Can Write the Best Poem." .. hah! Long title for a poem. He read it on a Bill Moyer's interview once. I wasn't sure what the poem had to do with drinking but I loved the title. Sounds like something my drinking poet friends and I would do. Get drunk and go out on a boat and write poetry. Really not a smart place to be when you're drunk. We'd probably bring along some weed, too, and go at night when we can't see where we're rowing. Drunken poets can be stupid. heh
Nice to meet you.
Trisha K.
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 14:24
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Not needed.
“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine
jonnijoy
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:06
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Just Me; says;' If you spoke
Just Me; says;' If you spoke to anyone like that on my website, I would send you a private message to let you know you had violated the terms of service by posting a personal attack and it would be your one and only warning. If you personally attacked someone after that, I would ban you. That quick. Yep'
JJ says: If you have website then what are you doing here? Did you show up to let us know you have never had a serious problem with alcohol but HAVE to drink to perform? Why do you feel the need to show us your poetry? Could it be a big ego? Whats your purpose? If you have never had a problem with substance abuse why would you wanna get buzzed and come here to show off your poetry? Do you think your gonna get discovered here somehow? I dont get you and dont really care. If Terry bans me cause I have crossed over the line 1 too many times, im fine with that. I dont live my life through websites, I actually have a very active life with real people in person not with entities on line lol.
JR Harris
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:09
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Could it just be that.....
you are an apologetic of the AA faith that wishes to derail the free thoughts of communication through the media of art, video, music and printed text?
"Tradition 10 - Alcoholics Anonymous has no opinion on outside issues; hence the AA name ought never be drawn into public controversy." Please follow orders from the Interchurch Center if you are an AA member and don't comment.
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 13:01
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To Jonnijoy... I post on multiple websites.
Jonnijoy...
Unlike you, I don't have much in-person contact with people, unfortunately. I'm very socially isolated. It sucks. You're lucky. I post on multiple websites. Sorry I mentioned how I handle personal attacks on my website. That's not this website. That's mine. *shrug*. I don't come online to get insulted. I try to be respectful to everyone and I don't think mature adults should slam other people, even perfect strangers. It just bothers me, that's all. But don't worry, you didn't hurt my feelings or anything (like you'd care anyway. *smile*)
No, my ego is quite deflated, actually. And no, I didn't come here for any ego boost or anything like that. I struggle a lot with the value of my work as well as the value of my life so I work with arts as self-therapy, really. I'm not looking to get "discovered". First off, nobody even BUYS poetry. So, discovered as WHAT? hah! That's ridiculous. But yeah... I DID get buzzed last night drinking vodka and wrote poetry here. So what? If anything, the poem was pretty bad so I'm the one who would be embarrassed about it. It has nothing whatsoever to do with you. Is there a rule against writing poetry here? Again, I'm sorry you have a problem with people writing poetry but it's your problem, not mine.
Why did I come here? I've already stated why a few times but maybe you didn't see the posts. I stumbled on this site because I was looking for people to talk to who were former drinkers but NOT AAers. I thought it would be healthy for me to make some friends who don't indulge. Why? Because I drink too much sometimes. It's NOT healthy. I want to be healthy. I sometimes can drink moderately and just have a couple, but sometimes I drink 4 or 5 and it's too much! I feel terrible the next day. So, I'm struggling with whether to stop entirely or just learn to ease up on it.
When I found this site, I was impressed with the intelligence and writing of the members here and found the anti-AA thing fascinating because I've always known it's a cult and I've seen friends of mine have their lives screwed up because of AA. I don't LIKE AA. So, I read for a while, then decided to post.
You're not required to like me. And you can go ahead and judge me if you'd like. I don't really care. But I don't tolerate insults well and just know that I won't get pulled into any dramas and personality conflicts. If I continue to get attacked, I'll just continue to tell people to stop and if they don't stop, I'll post elsewhere. At any given time, I usually post on about 5 websites anyway.
But there are people in this group who I've come to respect and I feel rather comfortable here right now. So, if you wouldn't mind, thank you for discontinuing the personal attacks on me. It's really a waste of time, for one thing, because I don't accept belittlement. For another thing, it makes your posts appear to be childish and without purpose other than to simply be rude to someone for no reason at all.
So, you can either accept me for who I am or ignore me, but please quit insulting me. Thanks.
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PS - Oh and yes, I HAVE had a problem with substance abuse in the past. A long time ago. I probably indulged in every substance out there. I stopped many years ago. I know how insidious and dangerous that lifestyle can be. It can be life threatening. I could share my stories but I don't think that would be helpful to anyone. But, suffice to say, I guess I feel I fit in here because I've struggled with the same things others posting on this site have struggled with.
jonnijoy
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 14:09
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Im sorry Just me. Really I am
Im sorry Just me. Really I am. Been hostile since I got up. Its raining again on my only day off work. Had to cancel a motorcycle ride again. I havent ridin since last year, its too cold out here on Long Island. As far as poetry goes I wouldnt know bad from good, its just not for me. In my creative writing class in high school, when I had to write a poem, I used to just copy lyrics off the back of my black sabbath- master of reality album cover and get an A. I did that twice and got an A both times. One time I had to read it outloud in front of the class and my doper friends were just falling out of their seats with laughter.
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 14:20
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Thanks.. no hard feelings.
No big deal. No hard feelings here. Thanks very much. Oh and that's a riot! I laughed aloud when I read that about the Black Sabbath lyrics! hah! Genius way to get through that class! Too funny! Hope it gets warmer soon so you can get out there on your bike! Spring's coming.
jonnijoy
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 16:00
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Thank you JM
Thank you JM
justme
Sun, 03/25/2012 - 16:37
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no thank YOU
Ride on!
(Write on.)
Vrrrooooom!
Let's go!
:D
(don't worry, that wasn't a poem... I don't think so anyway. ;)
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