Choice

Doesn't "powerlessness" mean no choice? It's almost a dictionary definition...lol

church basements and have multiple relapses that kill many alcoholics because they aren't getting "real" help. They are getting voodoo and faith healing.

I know, I know Clara. It worked for you. Did you ever think that the only reason you survived was because you aren't a real alcoholic? It sounds to me Clara, that your male Sponsor or your friend Clancy I talked you into this fake made up disease and then unleashed you on the unsuspecting public to spread the AA faith.

the real problem is the non counting of the dead people.

The AA faithful shamefully gather around the coffin and do their chants, and that is the end of it. No accountability, and no taking of responsibility. This is particularly sad in the case of suicide victims that are convinced they have a progressive, terminal, and incurable 'disease' as diagnosed by people again with NO medical training whatsoever.

AA Inc has addressed the meds issue, imploring members to stop the covert practice of telling people to stop taking meds as it was killing so many people.

http://www.aa.org/pdf/products/p-11_aamembersMedDrug.pdf

I was a bit confused when I read this blog post by Clara and all of the comments that followed. Actually, I am still confused.

I know that Clara is an AA member and that she's proud of it. I also know that she at least claims that she hasn't seen much of what we often complain about in her "meetings". I've noticed that many hold the opinion that she is in denial or that she might be lying. I've seen people accuse her of changing the subject and avoiding questions. Actually, I've probably been one of them from time to time. She's also been accused of being marietta, and also accused of stalking and threatening AntiD.
I personally have gotten frustrated in my discussions with her on occasion. Especially because I cannot understand why someone that seems like a nice person appears to not care about things that I'm passionate about.

I don't know for sure what is true and what is not, honestly. It’s often hard to determine in the forum world.

What I do know is that Clara’s post that starts this blog seems like rational and sound advice, yet a bunch of people posted negative comments as a response, and about the author when it was undeserving. It appears to me that it was done only because she likes AA and many of us hate it.

Is that a reason to trash someone and their post?

Does she deserve it after every comment that she makes, every day, even when it's a friendly and sound comment such as this one?

I read Clara's starting paragraph above several times and it looked to me to some great advice and also truthful. I hate AA, I really do. And for a lot of reasons.
What I don't hate are AA members simply because they are involved in the program and get something out of it. Good for them, actually.

I don't think Clara deserves to be thrashed every minute of every day just because of this. I for one will continue to call bullshit as I see it, but I'm not going to be callous when it isn't deserving. Her post doesn’t mention alcoholics anonymous at all. It’s not prejudice or rude or even one-sided. Or did I miss something.

I’m sorry that you have had to endure this Clara, I really am. I think it’s time I take a break from blogging for a couple days and sort this out in my mind. Take care All. I mean it. ~Avo

Clara's post:
"Staying sober can boil down to just such a choice, we have learned. We can spend hours thinking of reasons that we want or need or intend to take a drink. Or we can spend the time listing reasons that drinking is not good for us and abstaining is more healthful, and listing things we can do intead of drinking."