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Just for a bit of fun - Who would you like to see reading "Chapter 5 - How it Works" at the beginning of a meeting? My vote would go to this lady.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PayDM8DWsXY
"Rarely have we seen a purson fail who has thoroughly followed our path............What a fucking liberty"
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btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:04
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I give up
It's like banging your head against a wall - nice when you stop. Please learn to write in english. It's so infuriating trying to work out what you mean.
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:09
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Ironic that no one else seems
Ironic that no one else seems to not be able to get (as in "understand") my posts. I know that American vernacular differs from the UK, but I can still understand you, wally.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:14
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I quote
"All of this arguing you to as to which person is who and so on. " - sorry Clara. My missus's German kids did better than that at 10...lol. That's not vernacular (unless "vernacular" is a synonym of "bullshit")
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:18
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Who cares? Did you kill too
Who cares? Did you kill too many brain cells so as not to get the gist?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:20
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Don't you find it embarrassing?
And you a secretary too...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:27
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I was never a secretary and
I was never a secretary and never said so. "Why are you lying about me. All you do is lie, boo hoo!" And I freely admitted that I don't use spellcheck. I'm blogging on a board for entertainment. What you think of my English isn't of particular interest to me.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:34
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Sorry
I misunderstood. I thought you said you were a secretary for an attorney. Apologies. Step 10 - you could learn something here Clara...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:29
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Hey Clara
Calinda says she came to this forum because she is a friend of yours. Is that true? Did you invite her here?
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:34
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None of your business, ben.
What Clara and I do is none of your business.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:36
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Just to let you know Clara
Danny, in the guise of Calinda, is telling people you invited him here...lol. I was just wondering if it's true?
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:41
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I did not. Friends have
I did not. Friends have looked at this site and laughed, but none signed up.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:49
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I didn't think so
I was just warning you that that is what Danny is saying. beware.
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
causeandeffect
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:57
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And please, Clara, whatever
And please, Clara, whatever you do, don't communicate with danny. Some of us have had the extreme displeasure of knowing him for too long now, and feel confident in saying he's a dangerous man.
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Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:58
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Thank you for your concern,
Thank you for your concern, everyone, but I really don't care about the personalities involved.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:58
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Clara he is at it gain!!!
Please be careful. Trisha came in handy. Ben wants to divide all of us here.
He has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:59
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LOL
I've got the e-mail Danny...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:06
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Ben I don't give a shit what you have show it.
Ben I have nothing to hide show my PM I sent to avocado I don't care. I stand by it. Trisha asked me come and support Clara. I know one thing you don't. Clara knows exactly where my heart is at.
So causeandeffect and yourself go right ahead and do what you have to do. You did the same thing to Trisha that you are doing to me. Trying to divide people.
I am
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:08
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No idea what your talking about Danny
It was a good guess. That's the way Danny would work and you've just confirmed it...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:17
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Confirmed what???
Saying I came here to support Clara with her permission. I know what said and I have no problem with it. If you have made up another email to pass off as me go ahead.
Listen this stupid game of Danny does not impress me.
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:02
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Where does she say this?
Where does she say this?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:52
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Clara I sent you a PM/Email.
These intentions are in the PM I sent. Trisha invited me here.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:10
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Is that the Trisha....
.... who said she had never heard of Calinda...lol Danny - you've got to remember your lies or it all falls apart...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:21
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LMAO
You really are a fool. Trisha was right, you are the fat bastard. Have fun jerking this one around.
Bye Bye!!
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:23
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It's there for all to see Danny...lol
Shot yourself in the foot again moron?...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:51
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Ben, read your posts.
In a matter of 10 minutes you have tried to break up a personal relationship that had nothing to do with you, feigning imminent danger and then you went back after Clara again calling her a liar. Ben you are a supreme abuser. There is no doubt about this. You have a sick misogynous attitude, ben.
causeandeffect
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:33
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Ben, I just want to say good
Ben, I just want to say good job catching "calinda" in a lie. ; )
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justme
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:32
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Are you sure some of you don't have ...
Are you sure some of you don't have internet paranoia? Many think some people here are really other people using a different name. Many people think some people have ulterior motives and are trying to tear apart the site. These are pretty typical reactions when people develop internet paranoia.
Maybe you should check out IPA ... Internet Paranoiacs Anonymous. They meet online 24/7.
Haha
(Sorry, just throwing out a little levity. It's good to have a laugh, no?)
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:53
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You're up late Tim
You'll have Clara after you in a minute. She monitors how long and what time people are on here, and then complains that everyone's doing to her. Completely Dagenham East...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:57
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If it hadn't been done to me
If it hadn't been done to me here, it wouldn't even have registered. I'm up round the clock with a sick dog. What's your excuse? German missus ban you from the bed? Any opinion on medicinal pot?
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:57
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I see - Revenge
I can't remember - which step was that?...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:58
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It's not revenge at all.
It's not revenge at all. Just noting a double standard, Ben.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:00
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What?
It was revenge...lol Now step 10 it, like a good little stepper...lol
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
AntiDenial
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:42
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Must we constantly feed the
Must we constantly feed the trolls? I just dont get it.It really is not amusing or thought provoking.
Just a waste of time.
Articles of Criminals In Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous
www.nadaytona.org
causeandeffect
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:52
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Yes, I believe we do, but it
Yes, I believe we do, but it's not unfounded. danny bennison has been here as 5 people so far. 3 have been banned, and Marietta vowed to haunt us til death. They both will.
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Clara
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:55
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You know, I don't care about
You know, I don't care about the personalities. I'd prefer to talk about sobriety and/or recovery. No one is even anti-AA anymore. Fortunately, I can always jsut go read something interesting that Orange wrote.
Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.
Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:50
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Once again!!!
Deaf ears...
btnben
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:07
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I think you've got it there C&E
Let the trolls have the forum. You've got my e-mail address haven't you?
God damn it, get me a whiskey
Bill W, Deathbed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc
causeandeffect
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:10
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I have it through the site. I
I have it through the site. I don't know if it's in my inbox.
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Calinda (not verified)
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 21:50
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Why?
Deaf ears hear no evil nor wisdom!!
Trisha K.
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:26
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Wow your dreams are wacky. You dream people are morphing into...
other people to haunt you till death.....
Becket I said it first. The Twilight Zone. Maybe 1984, no the Twilight Zone....lol
“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine
alkieanon
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:58
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Silence Is Golden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ePwoTbeD5g
Pogue Mahone
Sat, 03/10/2012 - 23:45
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http://www.youtube.com/watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs
alkieanon
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:01
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Nooo! .. Polka .. Music .. Head .. Ready .. to .. Explode!
Nooo! .. Polka .. Music .. Head .. Ready .. to .. Explode!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mD-JeYjozc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4327HSXY56k
alkieanon
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 14:04
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Too Late!
Too Late! Must Blame It on OPF (too much time online, lol)!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MhgnMX73Pw
"Richie, I think these guys are very sick!
What's happening to them? What's killing them?
I think it must be my music."
mfc66uk
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 00:25
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He ought to ban them. They
He ought to ban them. They offer no debate and just derail the threads. They do show typical stepper self righteousness and ingnorence but everyone is bored by them. If they come back in future with different names just ignore them. They are sad people with little in their lives, but feel they are exerting some form of power by aggravating people here. They have no proper purpose in life which I'm afraid is true of many of he poor people in AA that fail to find employment or form normal relationships with anyone who is not in the programme.
I did tell AA face to face why I disagreed with them but I did not keep going back and ruining their meetings for them. This was partly out of courtesy and partly because I have better things to do and found hanging around with that lot to be pretty boring and pointless. It is very typical of steppers to attack anyone who has succeeded without the programme as it questions their ludicrous beliefs. I feel they should be spending more time reading their book, especially the acceptance bit, if they believe that the words of Wilson have something to offer. The reality is that they are probably loners in their own groups and are considered cranks by many of the more normal AA members. Nobody wants them to sponsor them and so they cannot control anything in their own environment. They are not following the traditions by their actions yet think everyone else should. Ironically they are another example of why AA does not work but that does not justify having them clutter up this forum with their rubbish.
I found the orange papers and other sites a great source of strength when I was deciding what was right for me a few years ago and I'm sure many others will in the future. I realise that some AA members will not agree and will find it controversial but there are plenty of places for them to go to share their beliefs . People have the right to look at both sides to make an informed decision about what is the best path for them to follow. People die when they have treatment or follow methods that don't work. I'm lucky, I found alternative help and with the aid of the Internet was able to read a whole range of material which helped me when I needed it. It would not have been helped by having to wade through a load of childish comments that are just posted to annoy. However this is sadly part of the way of the Internet and people that have failed to push people around in real life ,will often try to do it in the relative annonimity of an online forum.
Usually when a crank from AA tried to exert too much influence on a meeting the numbers of those attending dropped off and the meeting would die. The normal more balanced members would go elsewhere leaving only the extreme or the mad.That is something we should learn from AA.
Ironic
Mon, 03/12/2012 - 20:40
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mfc66uk
excellent post!
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