The Daily Bitch 10th March 2012

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Submitted by btnben on Sat, 03/10/2012 - 05:49

Just for a bit of fun - Who would you like to see reading "Chapter 5 - How it Works" at the beginning of a meeting? My vote would go to this lady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PayDM8DWsXY

"Rarely have we seen a purson fail who has thoroughly followed our path............What a fucking liberty"

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AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:19

I know what you are saying. When people state " oh just dont read my posts' is really just silly. It is nearly impossible. It is also hard to not get drawn in to their web- but it can be done.

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dorak nob

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:34

when i see people saying ignore the trolls and then in the next post feeding them it's ridiculous. arguing with trolls is useless . I don't understand how playing this game increases traffic . can someone give me some insight on how that works..

AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:51

I am with you on that sentiment. People stating ignore them and turn around and talk to them- at length!
Even though I have given up at times because it seems a least a few of us on board love feeding the trolls. It is like feeding the birds. You know what is left after the bird feeding.....

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AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:54

Even if it does increase it- is that what the site is soley about? Orange is doing fine with his papers alone.

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Ironic

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 20:07

Which I do believe (just sayin'), the other fuckwad troll with his five handles make her/them seem very tolerable.

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:50

I would disagree that an AA would care if this site exists. Why shut it down? I beieve that any new person to this forum would generate 10 responses as to who they are. As if Danny and Marietta are the only people other in blogland.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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steve cochrane

Tue, 03/13/2012 - 00:38

I agree dorak. I had great hopes for this forum, as I was helped a great deal with Oranges work. It was a good thing that I read them FIRST before coming to this place. If I had come here first I probably would have become equaly discouraged as I was before. I have alot to say. This forum has a very unique opportunity to actualy do something for the greater good,but it is being squandered. There is so much backbiting and gossip going on here. Gossip is humans lowest form of communication. It serves no purpose other than to hurt. It is juvenile at best. I myself have been drawn in myself but will no longer do so. I am going to go to sleep for a little while now. Wake up (hopefuly) Drink a bunch of coffee and and come and mix it up here. For possibly the last time. See ya later.

AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:32

There is nothing I have written that is not true. My personal opinion is I really dont like vulgarity by anyone.
If you noticed, I dont use vulgarity on the blog. I wish everyone would stop cussing and even saying sick things like yourself without cussing is gross as well. This blog is an anti-AA site. You seem to want to keep changing the topic.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:35

No more cussing. You have my permission to call me a complete $%£$%&$ £$$%*$£ next time I do...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Trisha K.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:48

Anti- how about ben continuously associating me with Danny and posting these stupid links. What you got to say about that. I have not heard anything yet from you.

“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:50

Did you look up "pariah"?...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:56

I have to say that I do believe you are Danny, by the way you write. I dont believe Ben is doing it to be mean,he really believes it, as I do. I guess on fornits there is a lot of horrible stuff written over there written by Danny-which is possibly yourself. He is wanting to warn people to be careful.

I think the point has been made about fornits. If you are Danny or not, why not just cool your jets and straighten up and fly right? I know you can when you want to.

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Trisha K.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:46

I do have to realize people are sick and have a right to act it out!! Free world!!

“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:42

It's baiting, trollish behavior that they accuse everyone else of doing.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:46

Will you stop making things up!!!!!! Where do "they accuse everyone else of doing" Who is "everyone else". You can't just make these generalisations. It's dishonest.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:55

Generalizations are what fuel this board, Ben. You and Anti do it the most. Aside, of course, of accusing any and everyone of being Danny and Marietta, even when everyone is logged on. It's just silly. Sometimes I don't think you even want to disagree with a viewpoint; you just want to take on the person. Are you convinced now that in America, alcoholism can be considered a disability? I notice the moment you get some proof positive of something I say, you immediately drop it. It had the bones of a decent conversation.

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causeandeffect

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 17:28

I'd like to see that proof positive. Can you please re-post it, since I missed it the first time. I'd heard that it was possible but extremely difficult to declare alcoholism as a disability.

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:04

Do an internet search for it. I posted it for Ben and he disregarded it. I'm not interested in continuing to do someone else's homework. But it occurs to me that perhaps you are from the UK, too, where alcoholism isn't considered a disability. But in America, it can be and often is used for people to get SSI.

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causeandeffect

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:10

OK, but as a general rule, one would expect that the person making a statement would back it up with supporting evidence. At least that's what I do. On another forum I post on I have to keep re-posting because they won't read my evidence, and I have to keep providing more and more evidence to support my claims, and that's exactly what i do. Of course they never do that. They just make assertions (sometimes really crazy ones) and expect people to just believe them. I find that with steppers, repetition is key. So it's really not my homework.

Troll free AA critical forum
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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:16

Because, Cause, I did post it and it did little good. I certainly have determined that you could post all you want here but if someone opposes you as a person, your evidence isn't any good, or you didn't type it properly, or you got it from something that someone doesn't accept as a source. It's just a trolling technique to see if you will jump through someone's hoop. When I answer a post that is a few days old, then I am in trouble for that. But it is only because I didn't read it then. Was it you that made that observation? But it is alright for someone else to miss a post.

If you are interested, look up SSR 82-60. You will see that there is wide berth for intrepretation.

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causeandeffect

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:35

Sorry Clara if you misunderstood that as a jab. I simply missed the post, as we all do at times. I found it an interesting thing to know about. Could help someone someday with it. Thank you for the info.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 17:44

Show me where I've made generalisations? Come on - should be easy as I do it the most. Or is that just you exaggerating AGAIN?

As far as having the bones of a decent conversation? - Don't make me laugh. You NEVER answer questions. You make wild statements with no evidence. Decent conversation is not possible under those conditions.

And as far as everyone being logged on is concerned - So? If you've got 2 identities you can be logged into both of them at the same time. Haven't you seen Trisha K and Calinda on at the same time. And both ARE Danny - no doubt...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:45

I wouldn't know how to do that. I've been blogging under one name sine 1997. I answer questions when asked. What would you care to know?

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:54

All I want is an example. Why wouldn't you know how to do that? Or is that you not answering questions again?

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Trisha K.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:47

Not important!!

“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:59

Although not as definitive as DNA or fingerprints, someone's writing style is pretty unique. See how we've spotted Marietta again? Someone who uses "a" instead of "an" before a vowel and continually uses "are" instead of "our" is pretty unique. Now do you understand how we know it's you Danny? No 2 people are THAT stupid. Calinda seems to have the same impediment too...lol.

And don't worry C&E, it's Danny. Even if you tell him he's too stupid to change...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Trisha K.

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:50

Ben likes to be a legend in his own mind. We will let him. SSSHHhhh!!! He thinks I am somebody else...lol.

“The more I traveled the more I realized that fear makes strangers of people who should be friends.”
Shirley MacLaine

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:22

I thought you were the on who specialised in "dragging around"...lol.

You don't need to be any kind of forensic writing examiner to spot your mistakes. They are so childish, no two 50plus year old men would make the same...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 17:16

But you say that to everyone. You count typos, tally up time on the board... Why can't you just admit that your standard ploy is to accuse everyone of being someone else... You don't have to admit it, though, Ben. It's plain to see in the posts you've logged over the past coupe of weeks.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 17:19

What is wrong with you? Why do you have to lie all the time? Where have I tallied up times on this board? If you look back in the posts you will find that I always said you WEREN'T Marietta!!!

What are you talking about?

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:25

No, you gave the benefit of the doubt, especially when Orange came and to the best of his knowlege, I wan't Marietta. But that was a short term bit of goodwill because you were back with the Claretta routine.

No one is lying about you or to you, Ben. This is just like when you said I would be welcome to come to the charity and give my presentation so those people knew they had options. Not! You specifically said I could not come and talk about AA, but then spent many posts denying you said that and calling me a liar. Frankly, what you think about me is none of my business. I am grateful not to be in an unhappy in life as you must be. But as you say, once a thug, always a thug... Putting down the drink didn't change much for you.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:28

Not the stepper way.

When I said you wouldn't get in the door you made such a meal of it (still are). I then explained (twice - you never seem to get anything first time) why. You then just replied "Superficial" - no idea what you meant and, when asked, you went quiet again. I'm glad you're not "an unhappy in life" (sic), but can assure you I am perfectly happy. And that last sentence - are you saying I'm a thug?

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:32

Oh, now Clara is being rude to poor wittle Bensie.

Ben, you are so much more than a thug. That was actually a compliment, but it is what you used to demonstrate that people don't change. I disputed it, but I see that you are correct in some cases. You must not have. You claim that people are ruining this board. Seems to me that it was already like this when I got here, and you are the dog with bone.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:31

"You specifically said I could not come and talk about AA, but then spent many posts denying you said that and calling me a liar. "

Liar - I specifically said "you would not get in the door". I also said it was not my decision. I NEVER said you could not come and talk about AA. Stop Lying. The whole things academic anyway. Just like a stepper to keep on and on until they get their own way. No going to happen Clara. You are completely wrong and everytime you bring it up I show you to be so,,,lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:33

Since when did you become a stepper, Ben?

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:37

.... a better grasp of step 10 than you seem to have...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:39

No, you don't. You haven't apologized yet. AA could never have done anything for you, and you probably brought nothing to it, either.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:40

You're in your own little world, aren't you...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:46

Sure, you do, Ben. You are something like 8 hours ahead of me but still plugging away. Talk about someone's little world. This could be a good forum, but everyone is too focused on anything but sobriety.

So, Ben, what did you think of the fact that in America, alcoholics can get disability?

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

Calinda (not verified)

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:48

In a matter of 10 minutes you have tried to break up a personal relationship that had nothing to do with you, feigning imminent danger and then you went back after Clara again calling her a liar. Ben you are a supreme abuser. There is no doubt about this. You have a sick misogynous attitude, ben.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:50

You and Danny have a "personal relationship" now do you? If I were you Clara, I'd stop that rumour before it goes any further...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:38

.... the server stats are up over 10% on last month. OP is going to have miles over 1.5 million hits this month.

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

AntiDenial

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:44

Maybe it is a pipe dream, but I would like to think that we could have a forum that is not reduced to this.
We might get lot's of hits, but we really want to get more educated people to come on. It seems after Danny and Marietta were banned that some old timer anti- AA'ers came back. I was one of them.
We might start losing more people again.

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becket

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:44

And yet . . . no new blood. :(

“The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.”
― Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a Young Contrarian

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 15:47

You've only been on here a week...lol Come on Marietta - time to come clean and get banned again...lol

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:29

I think that is why you do it. I could care less about the brain power you give Danny, but people visiting this sight will see that there isn't really anything here but people arguing as to who is whom.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 16:37

Do what?

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:42

Oh, that is right. I mistyped so that makes the whole thing not understandable to you.

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btnben

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 19:51

You said that's why I do it. I looked back and couldn't find what you are talking about. DO WHAT?

God damn it, get me a whiskey

Bill W, Deathbed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?source=patrick.net&v=Sdn3O6aaMNc

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Clara

Sat, 03/10/2012 - 20:01

All of this arguing you to as to which person is who and so on. It's such a waste of time and you are the leader of it. Within my first post, I was being accused of being someone else simply because of an opinion.

Remember Christopher Stevens when you vote.

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