Question for Clara

It goes to motive. Am I eating the fondue because that small amount of Grand Marnier? Or because I like chocolate fondue and fruit? Am I eating red wine salad dressing because I like it or because I think I am going to get a load on over that two tablespoons? Am I taking the drugs to get off? Or am I teling my care giver that I am an alcoholic that needs to be cautious of what I take? Is a doctor going to be giving me something for its intoxicating effects? I don't think so.

Ironic, I wouldn't take those kinds of things. I said so!

You are so much what I used to be like... I'm grateful to be able to see that again.

Ironic, I was responding to the blogger about the red wine vinegar and how his group responded, which is not true for EVERY group... You are like the church lady! But I have to remember that you also could not wait to mock me as you know no one that has retired in their forties. Fully 20% of my graduating class retired in their forties. That percentage represented military members with 20 years in and businesspeople that had made enough money. Even if not so for you, it is more than possible for others.

Not define myself as the absolute negative of the enemy of a collective perception, the boon that mimics and neatly conjoins a loathing that consumes imagination.

But that would qualify as irregular and slate me for rejection. Boo hoo.

Orange- Thank you.

Orange, this means a lot to the minority here thanks. I hope the members he is referring to will take the hint.
Clara, take care of yourself. I have much respect for you for not reacting to the constant taunts. Not all the members here act like trolls. Some I have found are very nice and do allow for conversation to flow.
Everyone needs to recognize that Orange sets the tone here not the members. He does allow for opposition and even encourages it. Now we as members need to get behind this vision. If someone can not then please don't make another member pay for your lack of acceptance.
Take care everyone.....:-)

Orange
Ironic opposition

Ironic, opposition is quite welcome. I don't care if you believe that Bill Wilson was a saint who brought the Golden Tablets down from the mountain for us lowly sinnners.

There are only two rules on the forum right now:
1.) No spamming. That is, no posting of advertisements, especially for things like fake Viagra, porn, Russian girls (for sale, one way or another), "Canadian pharmacies", etc. You know the routine.

2.) No personal attacks on other members of the forum. You are quite welcome to disagree with ideas, and attack those ideas, but the attacking and flaming of people has gotten out of hand, really vicious, and I've been forced to cancel a couple of accounts. So I'm asking everybody, on all sides of the debate, to just cool the flaming.

Thanks, and have a good day.

Because, analogous to an anti-abortion position, if you don't want one, don't have one.

Say your daughter-in-law, married to you daughter (the wages of modern permissibility), wants to attend AA wholly for your daughter's sake. Say she (the daughter-in-law) has never imbibed. Will you, incorrigible heathen, make all those irrelevant arguments about cults, coercion, and responsibilities of conjugality despite that your irreligious bias has no sway whatsoever on how a sovereign individual chooses not to drink or not?

Furthermore, you can't even have an abortion. You're a man!

Oh, you'll claim to promote beneficence out of altruistic sentiment. You selfish scamp; there is no such chimerical creature as selflessness.

Save yourself - do the right thing by respecting every one else to save themselves by doing right things. Any else is pissing into a torrential headwind. Might I suggest a raincoat?