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Alcoholics Anonymous (AA): 164 & More

Locate passages in the Big Book and the 12&12 easily and with complete accuracy!

http://www.164andmore.com/index.php

Alcoholics Anonymous Oldtimer getting ready for a "Newcomers" meeting - coming to a church basement in your area soon!


Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves (Gospel of Matthew 7:15, King James Version).

Is this a blast from the past? lol

I was looking around the e-AA form having been directed there by someone, and I came across this. Does it sound familiar to anyone?. Can anyone hazard a guess as to who it could be? No prizes, I'm afraid. It's a bit too easy this one.

Someone called Teddy top posted about being on an anti-AA site. He was just asking if anyone else had encountered such sites and was immediately labelled "troll". It seems that someone is hurting because she can't post on here any more lol

The Nietzsche Family Circus

Brilliant. Check it out: http://www.nietzschefamilycircus.com/

Shamokin, PA AA General Service Area 59 District 58 member tells judge he's "God's undeserving son" and the police ruined his evening. March 2013

Daniel Robert Gustitus is an Alcoholics Anonymous member in Shamokin, Pennsylvania Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) General Service Area 59 District 58 (http://district58area59aa.org/schedule.html) and did not have a good night on March 12, 2013 when Patrolman Raymond Siko II arrested "God's undeserving son" for numerous violent offenses and sent him to jail instead of a psychiatrist.

In AA everything is a "Suggestion"

Look up "suggestion" in Wikipedia and the first line is :-

"Suggestion is the psychological process by which one person guides the thoughts, feelings, or behaviour of another."

I wonder if this is what Bill W really meant?

Wondering if someone might have an answer

What exactly happens between the court order or intervention when someone goes kicking and screaming to attend AA, and then a one day later 'contract' that the person of interest has apparently agreed to do 'whatever it takes'?!?

I had this line dropped on me during my coerced attendance and attempted conversion, but I do not remember ever entering said contract.

Did I miss the 'miracle'?!?

Just how successful is AA?

I have great faith in statistics. I've used them many times in my working life. They are a powerful tool for planning engineering. The use of statistics has improved many people lives without them realising it.

Just for a bit of fun, I thought we could look at AA success rate from a marketing point of view. First, let's identify the potential market.

Grapevine Question

The AA Grapevine is called "Our meeting in Print." So if a person is mandated to attend AA meetings, shouldn't the person be able fulfill the requirement by reading a Grapevine article at home? Moreover, since every AA meeting is pretty much exactly the same, shouldn't the person be able to just read the same article over and over? As far as slip signing goes, maybe the person could photocopy the article and submit it to his probation officer as proof?

Prospects for Fun

Prospects for Fun

By: Liar Baits

I want my VH1

Now look at them yo-yo's that's the way you do it
You chant Bill Wilson on the VH1
That ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Money for nothin' prospects for fun
Now that ain't workin' that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya Dr. Drew ain't dumb
Maybe wrap a pigeon around your little finger
Maybe crush a pigeon with your thumb

World Health Organization says AA is: "cult" like, anti-medication and potentially harmful

The World Health Organization in the Mental Health section of its website provides:
"Evidence-based recommendations for management of alcohol use disorders in non-specialized health settings"
Here, the WHO asks the question:
"Should non-specialist health care providers refer alcohol dependent patients and their family members to mutual help groups such as AA?"

The paradox of Denial and Self motivation in AA

AA's membership surveys contain information on how AA members were introduced to AA: whether through an AA member, court order, family member, health professional, etc. AA's most recent survey in 2011 shows that 29% of AA members were "self-motivated" to attend AA initially (http://www.aa.org/pdf/products/p-48_membershipsurvey.pdf). In fact, over the last 20 years AA membership surveys have shown that on average one third of AA members were "self-motivated" to attend AA initially.

How do you get 2000 members to join a "private Alano club" in Seattle? Michael Martin Shepard arrested for selling drugs at Nomadian Community Resource Center March 12, 2013

Feds allege man dealt drugs from private South Seattle ‘club’

Posted by Mike Carter
March 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM

The owner of a South Seattle nonprofit community resource “club” that hosted Alcoholics Anonymous meetings has been arrested on a federal complaint alleging he was dealing large quantities of oxycodone and other illegal pills.

Letters to Orange

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-letters339.html

Date: Mon, January 21, 2013 8:45 am (Answered 25 January 2013)
From: "Mary K C."
Subject: disappointment

Sometimes it's unfortunate that we have freedom of speech, press, etc.

This article http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-effectiveness.html should be banned.

Mary K. C. RN
Staffing Resource Office
ClairVia Support
434xxxxxxx

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